Diamond10 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Wouldn’t read anything in to it anyway . We could be getting a Gary mackay Steven or a danny bo both came from EPL youth systems [emoji23] As far the result a bit more encouraging and good to see ally Roy get another goal. Should get a chance in the starting 11 of the cup games imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmavis Diamond Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said: I don't see how anyone can attempt to analyse his goalscoring record when he's only played youth level in England up until now. His ability is completely unknown to us right now. Won't stop some people though. The usuals will always look to moan about something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said: I don't see how anyone can attempt to analyse his goalscoring record when he's only played youth level in England up until now. His ability is completely unknown to us right now. We are entitled to a opinion though, same as yourself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_H Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said: I don't see how anyone can attempt to analyse his goalscoring record when he's only played youth level in England up until now. His ability is completely unknown to us right now. Because if his record is this, which means he struggles to score at youth level with about 1 goal per 5 games as a forward, do you think he will magically be any better at senior level? Especially in a team like Airdrie playing at counter attacking and having to make sure chances get taken: Competition Played Scored Assists Min per Goal Mins Played Total : 49 8 4 270 2.163 Premier League 2 23 3 2 369 1.106 U18 Premier League 18 4 2 164 654 U18 PL - Final Stage 7 1 - 388 388 FA Youth Cup 1 - - - 15 League One - - - - - Edited September 27, 2020 by G_H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, Glenmavis Diamond said: Won't stop some people though. The usuals will always look to moan about something. Think it was the commentator that said a few times he was off the pace, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, G_H said: Because if his record is this, which means he struggles to score at youth level, do you think he will magically be better at senior level: Competition Played Scored Assists Min per Goal Mins Played Total : 49 8 4 270 2.163 Premier League 2 23 3 2 369 1.106 U18 Premier League 18 4 2 164 654 U18 PL - Final Stage 7 1 - 388 388 FA Youth Cup 1 - - - 15 League One - - - - - That's all I said, his stats did not look good, thought that's what you get a guide from, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_H Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jack Reed said: That's all I said, his stats did not look good, thought that's what you get a guide from, yep, how dare people have opinions, especially based on statistics! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Because if his record is this, which means he struggles to score at youth level with about 1 goal per 5 games as a forward, do you think he will magically be any better at senior level? Especially in a team like Airdrie playing at counter attacking and having to make sure chances get taken: Competition Played Scored Assists Min per Goal Mins Played Total : 49 8 4 270 2.163 Premier League 2 23 3 2 369 1.106 U18 Premier League 18 4 2 164 654 U18 PL - Final Stage 7 1 - 388 388 FA Youth Cup 1 - - - 15 League One - - - - - I couldn't begin to understand the level of those reserve/youth competitions or how seriously they're taken, and I doubt any of us here know much more. It means nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmavis Diamond Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, G_H said: yep, how dare people have opinions, especially based on statistics! Statistics of a league we know heehaw about from a level perspective, of a 20yr old. Hardly concise enough data to form a solid opinion on. Here's a crazy idea. How's about we give the guy a chance? So far I'd say we've built a pretty decent squad and are doing well avoiding the usual dross of our level. We've found a couple of good prospects and this guy might be another one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Thornhill Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Glenmavis Diamond said: Statistics of a league we know heehaw about from a level perspective, of a 20yr old. Hardly concise enough data to form a solid opinion on. Here's a crazy idea. How's about we give the guy a chance? So far I'd say we've built a pretty decent squad and are doing well avoiding the usual dross of our level. We've found a couple of good prospects and this guy might be another one. Kevin Nesbit on loan to Dumbarton played 13, scored 0. Next season, Raith took a punt - played 46, scored 34. Just shows you about stats... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond10 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Kevin Nesbit on loan to Dumbarton played 13, scored 0. Next season, Raith took a punt - played 46, scored 34. Just shows you about stats...Agreed . Allan Russell a prime example never really kicked a ball anywhere with poor stats to match. Pretty sure we were warned he’d be hopeless. However, he turned out to be one of the most complete goal scoring forwards - in my time supporting airdrie anyway . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoalForAirdrie Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 59 minutes ago, Roger Thornhill said: Kevin Nesbit on loan to Dumbarton played 13, scored 0. Next season, Raith took a punt - played 46, scored 34. Just shows you about stats... Very true!! The only stats that matter will be his stats for the mighty Diamonds. If he actually signs that is! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passionate Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Ok it's decision time for the team selection the 3 positions and players may be still to be decided. GK.......Hutton or Currie Hutton steady keeper Mid...... Kerr or McKay Kerr. Although McKay is always a goal threat unlike Kerr Striker...... Roy or Gallagher Gallagher our most consistent scorer, ideally would like another option Thoughts folks..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmavis Diamond Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Roger Thornhill said: Kevin Nesbit on loan to Dumbarton played 13, scored 0. Next season, Raith took a punt - played 46, scored 34. Just shows you about stats... This. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 hours ago, GoalForAirdrie said: Very true!! The only stats that matter will be his stats for the mighty Diamonds. If he actually signs that is! That's what matters to us anyway, Russell had scored a few goals here and there , Nesbit was a prolific goal scorer at youth level, It would be great if our trialist turns out to be another Coyle, The concern for me was we have had so many young lads that we were happy to sign, then they just seem to go off the radar, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
++Ammo - Airdrie++ Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Callum Smith's record isn't too clever either (about 7 in 70) but we all know what he brought to the party with his workrate etc. I get that stats only show you half the story, and I'd have loved Callum smith to stay as well. As mentioned before I'll own up to slaughtering ally Roy last year, and I still stand by it being deserved, but genuinely I'd love be to think he's used the time off, and all the criticism from last year from all angles, he's used it to become a better, fitter, sharper, braver player and hopefully he'll have a massive part to play at this club over the next few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulloch Gorum Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Ammo makes a good point - there are forwards who don't score many goals themselves, but if they create good opportunities for the other attacking players, can latch onto a through ball and hold onto it for long enough to bring the others into play etc., then they can be just as important. If a player scores only five goals himself, but creates twenty for the players around him, that's a valuable contribution. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartcraig Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, Tulloch Gorum said: Ammo makes a good point - there are forwards who don't score many goals themselves, but if they create good opportunities for the other attacking players, can latch onto a through ball and hold onto it for long enough to bring the others into play etc., then they can be just as important. If a player scores only five goals himself, but creates twenty for the players around him, that's a valuable contribution. A significant part of Smith's contribution last year was his willingness to track back, win the ball in our half and then start the next attacking move. That comfortably outweighed his lack of goals in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo1968 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Passionate said: Ok it's decision time for the team selection the 3 positions and players may be still to be decided. GK.......Hutton or Currie Hutton steady keeper Mid...... Kerr or McKay Kerr. Although McKay is always a goal threat unlike Kerr Striker...... Roy or Gallagher Gallagher our most consistent scorer, ideally would like another option Thoughts folks..... Agree with this tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said: Callum Smith's record isn't too clever either (about 7 in 70) but we all know what he brought to the party with his workrate etc. I get that stats only show you half the story, and I'd have loved Callum smith to stay as well. As mentioned before I'll own up to slaughtering ally Roy last year, and I still stand by it being deserved, but genuinely I'd love be to think he's used the time off, and all the criticism from last year from all angles, he's used it to become a better, fitter, sharper, braver player and hopefully he'll have a massive part to play at this club over the next few years. Strikers job is to put the ball in the net, that's what told last season, we had Smith, Roy, Carrick that would run all day, work rate you could not fault them, but no finish product, surely there was more than me thought that, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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