BawWatchin Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Bit disappointing tbh. I thought it would be like a million Jackie Chans strutting their stuff. Still... at least they're not sitting on their arses while their countries sovergnty is being trampled over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welshbairn Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 I'm in 2 minds about Hong Kong. Britain left it in a right state, a half arsed democracy rushed in just before the handover, and virtually no protection for workers. Great place to live for the wealthy, but with property rental prices double London's and a minimum wage of £3 odd an hour, I'm not sure how much worse off they'd be under direct Chinese control. It would be a bit annoying to be shipped off to a mainland jail and have your organs harvested for saying the wrong thing admittedly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ForzaDundee said: Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China. By that same argument Yes voters should just "move out of Scotland", no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Donathan said: By that same argument Yes voters should just "move out of Scotland", no? No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, ForzaDundee said: Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China. They'll still be Chinese if they move away m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Not sure why the Red Army don't just move in. The bankers won't give a f**k, Beijing will make sure it's business as usual. The student/protesters are playing a dangerous game, not sure what their eventual goals are. Hope they aren't expecting the UK or US to step in, the UK is impotent and the US are far too busy trying to destroy China's economy to give a f**k. Edited July 28, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ForzaDundee said: Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China. Phooey. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Not sure why the Red Army don't just move in. The bankers won't give a f**k, Beijing will make sure it's business as usual. The student/protesters are playing a dangerous game, not sure what their eventual goals are. Hope they aren't expecting the UK or US to step in, the UK is impotent and the US are far too busy trying to destroy China's economy to give a f**k. This isn't like Tianamen Square in 1989 where everybody has been silenced, and no public discussion, or commemoration of it is allowed in Chine. . Everything that Beijing does can be instantly uploaded to the internet. This is people fighting for their freedoms and deserve to be supported. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, beefybake said: This isn't like Tianamen Square in 1989 where everybody has been silenced, and no public discussion, or commemoration of it is allowed in Chine. . Everything that Beijing does can be instantly uploaded to the internet. This is people fighting for their freedoms and deserve to be supported. The Facebook generation didn't do much for the Arab Spring, especially in Egypt. Most of Tiananmen Square was broadcast live on the BBC and ITN. The people protesting in Hong Kong have to be more specific about what they're fighting for, stick to getting rid of the extradition changes then they might have a chance, make it a more general anti Beijing thing and they're fucked. Edited July 28, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Most of Tiananmen Square was broadcast live on the BBC and ITN. How many people in China saw it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, beefybake said: This isn't like Tianamen Square in 1989 where everybody has been silenced, and no public discussion, or commemoration of it is allowed in Chine. . Everything that Beijing does can be instantly uploaded to the internet. This is people fighting for their freedoms and deserve to be supported. Nah the Egyptian military killed 800 people in a square a few years ago and covered it up no problem. Nearly no one knows what the Rabaa square massacre is. It all depends on what western editors are told to publish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: The Facebook generation didn't do much for the Arab Spring, especially in Egypt. Most of Tiananmen Square was broadcast live on the BBC and ITN. The Arab Spring isn't the subject of the discussion. The killings in Tiananmen Square were most certainly not broadcast on Western media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, beefybake said: The Arab Spring isn't the subject of the discussion. The killings in Tiananmen Square were most certainly not broadcast on Western media. If it comes to it the same will happen in Hong Kong. What happened to the cameras when the tanks started running over tents in Tiananmen Square? Where are they in the Xinjiang camps? Where's Youtube when you need them, in Cairo or the Uyghur internment camps? The internet changes nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 The sad thing is that when the internet provides film of people seemingly trying to save lives under bombardment in Syria, half the world say they're heroes, the other half say they're CIA paid actors. So as for as influencing and informing public opinion the internet might as well not have bothered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Have the Hong Kong lads tried tweeting about how brilliant the 2012 Olympics were? That seems to be making a real difference in the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 3 hours ago, MixuFixit said: China undertook to make no change to how Hong Kong is governed for 50 years as a condition of the transfer m74 Doesn't matter though does it. China are more powerful and will do what they want, just like we did to take Hong Kong in 1842. China has learnt this lesson the hard way over the past centuries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight minge Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Hong Kong is Chinese. If these people don't want to be Chinese then they should move out of Hong Kong to somewhere that isn't in China.What simplified nonsense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share Posted July 29, 2019 7 hours ago, ForzaDundee said: Scotland is British. If these people don't want to be British then they should move out of the UK to somewhere that isn't in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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