The DA Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Na, theres is a wider scale. If you drew our numbers on their scale it would be much shallower and nowhere near the top On those graphs, our figures nearly doubled between 31st March and 5th April (25K to 48K-ish). Germany's only went up by about 35% (75K - 100K-ish). Of course our line is steeper than theirs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Herman Hessian said: disproportionately high number of fatalities incoming for this particular breed of moron (with a bit of luck): A number of American religious leaders have endangered their flock by holding services – and by claiming the virus can be defeated by faith in God How many need to die before these 'leaders' change their minds? Sorry, that's not a genuine question. I already know the answer. All of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: what do you mean? One's exponential and one isn't. I thought both graphs were linear but with different y-axis scales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Na, theres is a wider scale. If you drew our numbers on their scale it would be much shallower and nowhere near the top The scales on the X axis are the same. Only the Y axis scales are different. If I could be bothered, I could stick them on an excel spreadsheet to see if the scales make that much difference. To me it would still look like we are continuing on the exponential curve while Germany is flattening. Obviously we'd need to see how the next few days/weeks go. Edited April 6, 2020 by Suspect Device 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Hed just mis-manage the crisis allow it to die and buy irelands response call it NHS united and claim its the same thing. Your point being? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52133054 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The scales on the X axis are the same. Only the Y axis scales are different. Aye, it depends on what you are looking to compare I suppose. The tail off at the end will alwyas look the same, but if you want to compare the rate of rise then it's not helpful to look at different scales. Adjusting the Y axis scale on ours to match theirs would make our line less steep. It doesnt really matter tbh. The only thing anyone really wants to see is flattening and that will show on any graph. People are sick of graphs IMO -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Bairnardo said: Aye, it depends on what you are looking to compare I suppose. The tail off at the end will alwyas look the same, but if you want to compare the rate of rise then it's not helpful to look at different scales. Adjusting the Y axis scale on ours to match theirs would make our line less steep. It doesnt really matter tbh. The only thing anyone really wants to see is flattening and that will show on any graph. People are sick of graphs IMO As sick as they were of experts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Aye, it depends on what you are looking to compare I suppose. The tail off at the end will alwyas look the same, but if you want to compare the rate of rise then it's not helpful to look at different scales. Adjusting the Y axis scale on ours to match theirs would make our line less steep. It doesnt really matter tbh. The only thing anyone really wants to see is flattening and that will show on any graph. People are sick of graphs IMO Naw it wouldnae. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, throbber said: I’m not sick of graphs. If anything we need more graphs. One of the few high points of this whole malarky is the increase in graphs. If only they weren't charting hundreds of people dying though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Can I again recommend the subreddit "dataisbeautiful" for all your graph / statistical needs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, The DA said: Naw it wouldnae. Aye it would. Try it -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52133054 My take from that is that it takes approx 1 month from contracting the disease to being reported dead. Lockdown started on March 23. So we will probably see an increase in deaths in England until approx St George's day. (just to pluck a time out of the air) In Scotland it will of course be St Andrew's day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Bairnardo said: Aye it would. Try it Do you understand the difference between how steep a line on a graph is and how high it goes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microdave Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Boghead ranter said: For a dentist, his teeth are fucking honking. Tbf, he probably doesn't work on his own teeth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, The DA said: Do you understand the difference between how steep a line on a graph is and how high it goes? If you dont want to try it just say so -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, ICTChris said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52133054 Bit of MS Excel Format Trendline from the BBC analysis team there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, microdave said: Tbf, he probably doesn't work on his own teeth. Surely he knows a good dentist who could do it at cost though, huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, throbber said: I was always a keen statistician growing up. Another great career opportunity that passed me by. Edited April 6, 2020 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 UK has 6.6 Intensive Care beds for 100,000 of population according to a graph yesterday Germany looked to have something like 30 IC beds for every 100,000. Germany has 1,584 dead for 100,123 tested positive. UK has 4,934 dead for 4,7806 tested positive. Their health service looks to be better than ours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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