Michael W Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Never forget 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Good old Boris. Always wanted to be PM. Always wanted to have been PM. Just the bit in the middle he's not so keen on. Honestly he's an absolute psychopath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: No surprise - the clique running to support each other. I've consistently said that there are a complex set of reasons why infections have risen. Find me a post where I have explicitly said that schools are not a factor - you won't. The post originally implied it is schools being off that has slowed infections - I just pointed out that for Dundee that just might not be the case as infections started to rise here towards the end of the 16 day holiday - as I said - I really don't know what has driven it up here. And to prove the point - look who red dotted. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) It's pure Cummings to try and bury this during the probable chaos of the US election results on Wednesday. Sturgeon and Drakeford both now need to be seriously considering stopping all but essential travel to and from England. Edited October 30, 2020 by Sherrif John Bunnell 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralstonite Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I know I'll get shot down in flames for this, but does anyone else question the official narrative? I know only three people who have tested positive for Covid, and they're obviously the ones who've experienced symptoms. Most people I speak to say the same. I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but I haven't bothered with this thread much and it's currently 3,030 pages long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: It's pure Cummings to try and bury this during the probable chaos of the US election results on Wednesday. Sturgeon and Drakeford both now need to be seriously considering stopping all but essential travel to and from England. I've some sympathy with this view but in all honesty the UK public and to an extent media view the US elections as a sideshow compared to UK COVID. If that's a Tory strategy it won't work. They'd be better placed to raise some sort of Brexit "gain" as a distraction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Time to call the season again. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ralstonite said: I know I'll get shot down in flames for this, but does anyone else question the official narrative? I know only three people who have tested positive for Covid, and they're obviously the ones who've experienced symptoms. Most people I speak to say the same. I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but I haven't bothered with this thread much and it's currently 3,030 pages long. I'd be interested as to what you think the 46,000 UK deaths (other figures are available) have been due to. I'm now retired but used to work in critical care. Trust me this is real. Ther's no conspiracy here. Lots of bad decisions but this fucker isn't made up. Edited October 31, 2020 by Distant Doonhamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ralstonite said: I know I'll get shot down in flames for this, but does anyone else question the official narrative? I know only three people who have tested positive for Covid, and they're obviously the ones who've experienced symptoms. Most people I speak to say the same. I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but I haven't bothered with this thread much and it's currently 3,030 pages long. In short? Yes. But i'm not convinced it's a big conspiracy. I just think it's incompetence / wokeism -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know: 1. immediate householders who have Covid. 2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected Covid;. 3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 4. Known self isolations because of Covid. 5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world, we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals directly, seriously and significantly affected. Prove me wrong? (that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, alta-pete said: I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know: 1. immediate householders who have Covid. 2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected Covid;. 3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 4. Known self isolations because of Covid. 5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world, we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals directly, seriously and significantly affected. Prove me wrong? (that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). 4. One - as a member of staff in a care home in mid-March. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, alta-pete said: I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know: 1. immediate householders who have Covid. 2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected Covid;. 3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 4. Known self isolations because of Covid. 5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world, we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals directly, seriously and significantly affected. Prove me wrong? (that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). Four positive cases in my family. Two with mild disease- both young and fully recovered. Brother-in-law. Mid 40s super fit. Seriously unwell with it. Fully recovered now but had the disease in March and easily 4-5 months until full recovery. Wife's uncle. Mid 70s, diabetes and a bit overweight. Dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralstonite Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: I'd be interested as to what you think the 46,000 UK deaths (other figures are available) have been due to. I'm now retired but used to work in critical care. Trust me this is real. Ther's no conspiracy here. Lots of bad decisions but this fucker isn't made up. Aye, I am being told that that's the case. However my own experience and those about me just doesn't seem to accord with that. In the USSR they used to be told that production of rationed goods had increased, but there never used to be much material benefit to prove it. In North Korea people are told that the Dear Leader didn't defecate. So I was wondering about other people's experiences on here. 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: In short? Yes. But i'm not convinced it's a big conspiracy. I just think it's incompetence / wokeism I have a theory., so I will start the ball rolling. Over the last couple of years I seem to recall being told that climate change had nearly reached the point of no return. "Ach, well! We're f**ked then, I suppose. I've no kids so as long as it holds out another fifty years, I should be okay" was my reaction. But what if the powers that be sat around a table and debated how they would reduce emissions very quickly? "Aye, we know people need to stop taking flights and driving cars, but how do we stop them doing that?" they mused; perhaps. The economic damage might mean that people stop buying pointless shite, too. Just a thought. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Ralstonite said: Aye, I am being told that that's the case. However my own experience and those about me just doesn't seem to accord with that. In the USSR they used to be told that production of rationed goods had increased, but there never used to be much material benefit to prove it. In North Korea people are told that the Dear Leader didn't defecate. So I was wondering about other people's experiences on here. I have a theory., so I will start the ball rolling. Over the last couple of years I seem to recall being told that climate change had nearly reached the point of no return. "Ach, well! We're f**ked then, I suppose. I've no kids so as long as it holds out another fifty years, I should be okay" was my reaction. But what if the powers that be sat around a table and debated how they would reduce emissions very quickly? "Aye, we know people need to stop taking flights and driving cars, but how do we stop them doing that?" they mused; perhaps. The economic damage might mean that people stop buying pointless shite, too. Just a thought. Taking the pish now pal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Four positive cases in my family. Two with mild disease- both young and fully recovered. Brother-in-law. Mid 40s super fit. Seriously unwell with it. Fully recovered now but had the disease in March and easily 4-5 months until full recovery. Wife's uncle. Mid 70s, diabetes and a bit overweight. Dead. Tragic. And so sad to hear. Wasn’t meaning to inflame, just to get some handle on real life outside government statistics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ralstonite said: I have a theory., so I will start the ball rolling. Over the last couple of years I seem to recall being told that climate change had nearly reached the point of no return. "Ach, well! We're f**ked then, I suppose. I've no kids so as long as it holds out another fifty years, I should be okay" was my reaction. But what if the powers that be sat around a table and debated how they would reduce emissions very quickly? "Aye, we know people need to stop taking flights and driving cars, but how do we stop them doing that?" they mused; perhaps. The economic damage might mean that people stop buying pointless shite, too. Just a thought. See that's a conspiracy theory. Look, i've read all about the WEF and The Great Reset. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely, though, is a whole different question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, alta-pete said: Tragic. And so sad to hear. Wasn’t meaning to inflame, just to get some handle on real life outside government statistics. No worries. It didn't inflame. It's just the reality of a disease which is asymptomatic or mild for many but serious and fatal for some. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralstonite Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: See that's a conspiracy theory. Look, i've read all about the WEF and The Great Reset. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely, though, is a whole different question. Aye, I have been told about the Great Reset. There's just so much that doesn't appear genuine. I'm keeping an open mind and remaining vigilant. I will probably refuse the vaccine, too. However, one thing I'm convince of, is that the economic repercussions will last a long, long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 A little throwback to when Vallance was using scientific based common sense, before becoming vaccine obsessed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know: 1. immediate householders who have Covid. 2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected Covid;. 3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 4. Known self isolations because of Covid. 5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world, we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals directly, seriously and significantly affected. Prove me wrong? (that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). Grandad had it, nearly 90 years old and was fine except from having dementia meaning he had to kept being reminded to self isolate. He lost his wife at start of september who used to keep him right so that was a bit of a challenge.Aunt and Uncle and 1 cousin had it, no symptoms as far as I'm aware. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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