Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Elixir]

5 hours ago, TheJTS98 said:

Not surprised by the Yougov poll showing that most people in the UK are happy for restrictions to continue for months yet. It's the general view from almost everybody I hear from outside this thread.

Add that to the polling showing - despite people on this thread threatening to change their vote and speculating that others will do the same - that Scotland's Party are cruising to what may be a record election win in May, and perhaps the echo chamber on this thread should stop and consider that a few loud voices have this thread completely out of step with public opinion.

The government are not conspiring to lock up the population against its will for no reason. The population is not turning against the government.

I've said it before and will continue to point it out. The loud voices on this thread are complete outliers and it's good to see evidence that they are well out of step with the general public.

 

4 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

It’s encouraging to hear that people realise that human life is more precious than getting a pint and a package holiday in Magaluf.

 

Of course, these same oddballs with no comprehension of reality wanting to sAvE lIvEs don't give a shit that millions of children continue to die of hunger and malnutrition every single year, or that 1.5 million people still die from TB every single year.

It's all about those 'rona deaths.

[Sergeant Wilson]

8 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Encouraged by Hancock's comments this morning..

Go back to bed, get up and start again.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

 
Of course, these same oddballs with no comprehension of reality wanting to sAvE lIvEs don't give a shit that millions of children continue to die of hunger and malnutrition every single year, or that 1.5 million people still die from TB every single year.
It's all about those holidays. [emoji471][emoji966]

FTFY

[Billy Jean King]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56050119
Apologies if this has already been posted, but a sore one for the zero Covid brigade

Is there a zero Covid "brigade". Don't think I remember a single person advocate it on here that's for sure.

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Go back to bed, get up and start again.

I'll accept anyone pissing on the dying embers of #ZeroCovid and accepting that this is going to inevitably become just another background illness.

Even a sociopath like Hancock.

[Guest TheJTS98]

7 minutes ago, Elixir said:

 

 

Of course, these same oddballs with no comprehension of reality wanting to sAvE lIvEs don't give a shit that millions of children continue to die of hunger and malnutrition every single year, or that 1.5 million people still die from TB every single year.

It's all about those 'rona deaths.

I think it sums your position up that you've resorted to this complete irrelevance.

For the record, I think humanity should act to prevent deaths from hunger, TB, and covid-19.

I am also against murder and genocide, and I am not in favour of torturing kittens.

Edited February 13, 2021 by TheJTS98

[Elixir]

1 minute ago, TheJTS98 said:

I think it sums your position up that you've resorted to this complete irrelevance.

For the record, I think humanity should act to prevent deaths from hunger, TB, and covid-19.

I am also against murder and genocide.

It should. Just not at the expense of the perpetual destruction of society.

[Sergeant Wilson]

1 minute ago, Elixir said:

I'll accept anyone pissing on the dying embers of #ZeroCovid and accepting that this is going to inevitably become just another background illness.

Even a sociopath like Hancock

Lord Hancock as he will be known.

1 minute ago, TheJTS98 said:

I think it sums your position up that you've resorted to this complete irrelevance.

For the record, I think humanity should act to prevent deaths from hunger, TB, and covid-19.

You're exactly what this thread needed.

[Guest TheJTS98]

2 minutes ago, Elixir said:

It should. Just not at the expense of the perpetual destruction of society.

Calm down. We are not witnessing the destruction of society.

[Billy Jean King]

Is it lies though?
With vaccines on the go and new treatments coming to fruition; a prediction that living with Covid will be like living with flu in ten months time is hardly the most outlandish thing ever said and surely something even they can deliver upon?
As I said earlier the notion of some kind of end date, even if it's ten months away gives me personally some comfort, that I don't get from NS' open ended use of language.

If NS came out and said another 10 months of restrictions (that's basically what Hancock is alluding too) and you would hit the roof. His use of could and hope is really just packaging bad news in a nice wrapper.

[Billy Jean King]

You have queues waiting to get into a supermarket?

25 in front of me yesterday in Troon.

[Honest_Man#1]

6 hours ago, TheJTS98 said:

Not surprised by the Yougov poll showing that most people in the UK are happy for restrictions to continue for months yet. It's the general view from almost everybody I hear from outside this thread.

Add that to the polling showing - despite people on this thread threatening to change their vote and speculating that others will do the same - that Scotland's Party are cruising to what may be a record election win in May, and perhaps the echo chamber on this thread should stop and consider that a few loud voices have this thread completely out of step with public opinion.

The government are not conspiring to lock up the population against its will for no reason. The population is not turning against the government.

I've said it before and will continue to point it out. The loud voices on this thread are complete outliers and it's good to see evidence that they are well out of step with the general public.

 

2 hours ago, TheJTS98 said:

Because it suggests that the heavy implication we've seen on here repeatedly that the public are going to give up on following restrictions is nonsense.

That's good news.

[8MileBU]

12 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Is “twice daily hell” over egging the pudding a bit? Where’s he commuting to, Idlib?

I don’t think he’s over egging it to be honest. On “office days” pre covid I’d normally be based at Riccarton. Joining the M9 at the Bowtrees slip (just before the Kincardine Bridge junction) and would normally quite enjoy the 20ish miles 20 minute commute to Newbridge, waking up properly, gathering my thoughts and preparing my mind for the day ahead. 

9 times out of 10 though, Newbridge or thereabouts is where the pleasure of the commute would end. From Newbridge, a 6 mile stretch of my commute which should take roughly 10 minutes would then become 45 minutes to sometimes over an hour most days. The alternative routes continuing along the M8 to Livingston and back along the A71 would rarely ever fare any better.

It was also always a gamble whether to exit at Newbridge and cut up through the industrial estate to the A71 or take the road along past Ingliston to RBS and take the wee road up to Calder Road from there, but neither alternative route ever reduced the time it took to get to the office. All roads into Edinburgh and the City Bypass are just awful. Usually worse at this time of year too when headed East as the winter sun sits so low in the sky making things difficult for many making the morning commute. The same thing applies making the late afternoon/evening commute home as the sun begins to set in the West.

Edited February 13, 2021 by 8MileBU

[effeffsee_the2nd]

Encouraged by Hancock's comments this morning. Hopefully we'll hear similar optimistic and pragmatic words from the Scottish Government on the matter...

It doesn’t matter, there’s a simple fact is that they can’t just keep burning money forever.
In any case they don’t want to keep restrictions in place forever, they don’t want to get so far along the road then have to turn back again

[Steven W]

7 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

40 minutes ago, Steven W said:

Is it lies though?
With vaccines on the go and new treatments coming to fruition; a prediction that living with Covid will be like living with flu in ten months time is hardly the most outlandish thing ever said and surely something even they can deliver upon?
As I said earlier the notion of some kind of end date, even if it's ten months away gives me personally some comfort, that I don't get from NS' open ended use of language.

If NS came out and said another 10 months of restrictions (that's basically what Hancock is alluding too) and you would hit the roof. His use of could and hope is really just packaging bad news in a nice wrapper.

A lot of people on this thread would, but I would not. As I've said earlier this morning, and end date to all this brings me something to look forward to, however far off. Sturgeon at times would make you think we could be living like this forever

[madwullie]

It's a good point that's been made a few times but does bear repeating. 

"Restrictions" can mean anything from being asked to wear a mask on busy public transport to being welded inside your house and food packages arriving by drone. 

It would be nice if the media (and politicians) would specify what they're meaning when they use that term 

[No_Problemo]

I’m sure Sturgeon said, possibly a month or so back, that things would look better be spring. Either that or lockdown is now causing me to imagine things.

[stumigoo]

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3770674

[Honest_Man#1]

6 minutes ago, madwullie said:

It's a good point that's been made a few times but does bear repeating. 

"Restrictions" can mean anything from being asked to wear a mask on busy public transport to being welded inside your house and food packages arriving by drone. 

It would be nice if the media (and politicians) would specify what they're meaning when they use that term 

This is a great point. The lack of differentiating between ‘masks on transport’ and ‘not being within 2m of another human’ is what is causing a lot of the angst. I’m sure majority wouldn’t care too much if they have to wear a mask for another 10 months, but if it means social distancing for that time (essentially stopping almost every human activity) then that’s a problem.

[Billy Jean King]

A lot of people on this thread would, but I would not. As I've said earlier this morning, and end date to all this brings me something to look forward to, however far off. Sturgeon at times would make you think we could be living like this forever

I've never once got that impression from NS or anyone else for that matter. Hancock has stated the obvious. No one expects anything but Covid to be treated like flu in time, that's the whole point of vaccinations. He used that to float the thought of restrictions for another 9 or 10 months, get it out there to see the reaction. Yours is exactly the response he's looking for ie "they will accept this if we wrap the turd up in a nice shiny wrapper with big pictures of carrots on it". It's literally how they have played this whole episode. A wee phrase casually dropped into conversation to see how the public reacts.