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[Billy Jean King]

Have they said why they are only pushing for such a low figure. If the work was that restrictive it should be moved. There is zero restriction Covid wise preventing the SFA for applying to allow more in.

We will never move forward at anything bar a snails pace without their being a will / intent to do so.

ETA STV saying UEFA are stipulating the crowd limit as they are in effect in control of the stadium come the final !

[Cyclizine]

1 hour ago, Paco said:

 

Unavailable for Moray specifically, but NHS Grampian is showing as 11 currently in hospital, less than 5 in ICU (no specific numbers as it could become identifiable). It was as high as 17 last week, up from less than 5 (again, no specific number given) at the start of April.

It isn’t great, it really is entirely against the general trend. GG&C for example have went from 84 in hospital to 27 in the same timeframe. But it’s pretty small numbers.

Nothing to be alarmed about but exactly the kind of thing for public health officials to jump on and try to help with.

 

Dr Gray's in Elgin is a green site, all confirmed cases are transferred to Aberdeen.

[O_Kahn]

21 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

If it WAS an outdoor spreader event then it'll be about the first.

I'm not aware of ANY major outdoor gathering (and there have been thousands of them across the UK parks, beaches etc) which has been proven to have definitively caused a substantial spread of covid.

Has there been one?

I don’t think so. There was a story last month about possible spikes in Florida after NFL games (and that was with mostly empty open air stadiums) but that was largely pre-vaccination. 
 

It’ll be interesting to see if there’s any follow up to the full stadiums there have been in Texas for recent events.

 

https://theconversation.com/baseball-stadiums-are-filling-up-but-an-analysis-of-the-nfls-2020-season-holds-a-warning-about-covid-19-case-spikes-157534

 

 

[Todd_is_God]

29 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

Based on what @realmadrid has said, large swathes of Hampden are out of commission due to the work UEFA are doing.

"Large Swathes"

Hampden has an abundance of turnstyles, stairwells, and a walkway that runs from one end of the South Stand all round the ground to the other end.

I can't imagine UEFA are working on the concourses. It'll be work in the hospitality suites and getting broadcast booths ready. They will be doing next to nothing outwith the main stand.

1,500 - 3,000 is a disgrace. People will blame the SFA but, given it's 11 days away and the SG need to agree to it, the SFA will only ask for what they feel they will get approved.

If 5% capacity is the most they think they can get approved, then I understand why the SFA were reluctant to move the final. It's simply not worth renting the likes of Pittodrie, paying for enhanced stewarding etc, then crossing your fingers you are allowed to sell at most 1,000 tickets.

[The Master]

1 hour ago, H Wragg said:

3 hours ago, The Master said:

Presumably it's pot luck whether they can open. 

Give us a break with the puns.

Och, it's only a game

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so put up a real good fight.

 

[Stellaboz]

3 minutes ago, The Master said:

Och, it's only a game

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so put up a real good fight.

 

..so put up a real good fight.

[Thereisalight..]

48 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

“The SFA have submitted a request to the Scottish Government to allow between 1,500 and 3,000 fans into the Scottish Cup final”

That's pathetic.

What's more pathetic is they wait until 11 days before the event to decide that fans are allowed! A mad scramble to get about 500 stewards to make sure folk are following a one way system and not standing too close to one another in the queue for a pie and a piss. 

1500-3000 fans at Hampden is a disgrace. There should be 12,000 at least 

[Billy Jean King]

"Large Swathes"
Hampden has an abundance of turnstyles, stairwells, and a walkway that runs from one end of the South Stand all round the ground to the other end.
I can't imagine UEFA are working on the concourses. It'll be work in the hospitality suites and getting broadcast booths ready. They will be doing next to nothing outwith the main stand.
1,500 - 3,000 is a disgrace. People will blame the SFA but, given it's 11 days away and the SG need to agree to it, the SFA will only ask for what they feel they will get approved.
If 5% capacity is the most they think they can get approved, then I understand why the SFA were reluctant to move the final. It's simply not worth renting the likes of Pittodrie, paying for enhanced stewarding etc, then crossing your fingers you are allowed to sell at most 1,000 tickets.

Both BBC and STV news are reporting that the SFA have been given a max attendance by UEFA who by then will control the stadium. Strange as it may seem UEFA look to have set the 2k limit and the SFA application is based on their recomendation.

You can climb off your anti SG high horse again for an hour or two (I too will refrain from my criticism of the SFA given these reports).

[Billy Jean King]

What's more pathetic is they wait until 11 days before the event to decide that fans are allowed! A mad scramble to get about 500 stewards to make sure folk are following a one way system and not standing too close to one another in the queue for a pie and a piss. 
1500-3000 fans at Hampden is a disgrace. There should be 12,000 at least 

See my response to TiG. Looks to be a UEFA decision going by news reports.

[Billy Jean King]

Both BBC and STV news are reporting that the SFA have been given a max attendance by UEFA who by then will control the stadium. Strange as it may seem UEFA look to have set the 2k limit and the SFA application is based on their recomendation.

You can climb off your anti SG high horse again for an hour or two (I too will refrain from my criticism of the SFA given these reports).

ETA BBC say 3000 is the submission. Probably safe to say neither channel knows exactly how many the request is for !

Dundee have this evening said they will only be looking to admit 500 if they make the play off final. Clubs really need to push these boundaries. We need to test these processes.

[Thereisalight..]

6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

19 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

What's more pathetic is they wait until 11 days before the event to decide that fans are allowed! A mad scramble to get about 500 stewards to make sure folk are following a one way system and not standing too close to one another in the queue for a pie and a piss. 
1500-3000 fans at Hampden is a disgrace. There should be 12,000 at least 

See my response to TiG. Looks to be a UEFA decision going by news reports.

Yeah according to the report they're waiting on the SG giving it the go ahead. Wonder when theyll decide. Very soon I'd hope for logistic reasons 

[Billy Jean King]

Yeah according to the report they're waiting on the SG giving it the go ahead. Wonder when theyll decide. Very soon I'd hope for logistic reasons 

A ballot of ST holders will be easy at those limits. St J might even manage a public sale !!!

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

1 hour ago, Elixir said:

Is there not? I believe the economic pressure is hitting home every single day, particularly for a government that will need to win the economic argument to win a future independence referendum.

Not disagreeing with you, but opinion polls are still firmly in favour of the SG's cautious approach. 

The only reason we're even lifting restrictions at the (slow) pace that we are, is because England are doing it. I've no doubt at all that if the SG wasn't under that external pressure we would be under full lockdown for months yet. 

[Thereisalight..]

Has anything been decided about the fan zone in Glasgow for the Euros? 

[Steven W]

13 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

Not disagreeing with you, but opinion polls are still firmly in favour of the SG's cautious approach. 

The only reason we're even lifting restrictions at the (slow) pace that we are, is because England are doing it. I've no doubt at all that if the SG wasn't under that external pressure we would be under full lockdown for months yet. 

Agree 100%.

Though Sturgeon should show the courage of her convictions. Just because BJ is easing restrictions doesn't mean she has to. I find it very weak 'leadership''

[Elixir]

So it begins. 

 

[Billy Jean King]

So it begins. 
 

Sky are reporting that Spain today decided to EXTEND the ban on UK nationals until at least the next review at 31 May so you might want to check the validity of that information

[Left Back]

4 minutes ago, Elixir said:

So it begins. 

 

Great bunch of lads the spaniels.  Always liked them.  Tenerife in September here we come.

[Left Back]

3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

6 minutes ago, Elixir said:

So it begins. 
 

Sky are reporting that Spain today decided to EXTEND the ban on UK nationals until at least the next review at 31 May so you might want to check the validity of that information

Reuters are reporting it

[Elixir]

10 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

13 minutes ago, Elixir said:

So it begins. 
 

Sky are reporting that Spain today decided to EXTEND the ban on UK nationals until at least the next review at 31 May so you might want to check the validity of that information

Sky are a joke outlet who report utter junk like this:

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