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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

The day 2 test is still a PCR test that you can get posted to your home, later in the month it will change to an LFT but they haven't said when. Or you can book the tests for the airport when you arrive to get them out of the way. Not sure about the rules before for kids, but everyone now has to do the day 2 test apart from under 5s. Fully vaccinated adults and all UK citizens under 18 no longer have to take the pre return flight test.

ok thanks, that was how I read it, though didnt know the tests could be done at airport. 

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Just now, BigDoddyKane said:

ok thanks, that was how I read it, though didnt know the tests could be done at airport. 

They're probably more expensive but it's quick way of getting them out of the way. You have to book them the same way as the home kits because you need a code for the passenger locator form.

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Pre Departure PCR testing (if required) in Scottish Airports is extortionate.  Also the results still take many hours.

Don't get sucked into thinking you could rock up 3 hours before a flight and get a test done & dusted.

Safest bet(imo) is just using Randox with a code (Easy to find) for £43 using a drop box.

I will use the cheapest tat possible for Day 2 return test as they are simply for getting a Code for your PLF

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Daily Summary for @oaksoft :   Deaths 0 (1 day before),  ICU cases 67 down from 71  (24 new admissions),  In hospital with confirmed Covid  1001 up from 965 (? new admissions).  

Figures for Jags.  1st Vaccines  8,822 to 9,394 brilliant been queues of kids at drop in centres and 1st appointments yesterday. 2nd vaccines  2,180 to 1,938  These 2nd vaccine numbers are woeful. 

Daily Cases Update: 24 days in a row of falls now with a brilliant drop of 3.61% to 319.8 and I expect a further small fall tomorrow. Infectivity falling almost daily albeit slowly now to 7.9%.   

Highlights today are Glasgow falling bellow 300.  Western Isles going the other way. Is the Barras not in Glasgow 😉 ?

Total Cases Scotland 7 days 25th September to 1st October  were 18,135 to 17,481 down 3.61%, Positivity was 8.1% now 7.9%.  Cases per 100K were 331.8 now 319.8

Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update  :  UK Average  359.5 to 355.7 down 1.06%, England  342.1 to 340.0 down 0.61%, Wales 615.8 to 594.1 down 3.52%, Northern Ireland   410.2 to 406.5 down 0.90%

In Europe for travellers (Countries Population over 3 Million) Serbia 572.6 (weekly change up 9%), Romania 337.9 (weekly up 59%), Croatia 209.8 (weekly up 5%), Moldova 197.7 (Weekly up 5%), Bulgaria 187.8 (Weekly up 23%),  Ireland  181.9 (Weekly  -1%),  These are the only countries over 150 cases per 100K.   Likes of Spain is down at 31.1 !!!

Scotland  peaks in wave 4 at 817.1 for 1st Sep to 7th Sep, (UK was 392.1), Cases that day were 44,663 and positivity 12.5%

Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8%

Scotland  peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

West Lothian   495.6 to 478.2 

North Lanarkshire   439.4 to 434.7 

South Ayrshire   479.8 to 418.2  Excellent huge fall of 12.83%

Falkirk   409.8 to 411.1  Fairly climbing the table @Bairnardo   @Marshmallo

North Ayrshire  429.1 to 405.2

Dundee City 402.5 to 388.4

East Ayrshire  413.7 to 386.5  

West Dunbartonshire   396.2 to 378.1 

Fife  388.1 to 371.5

East Dunbartonshire   375.2 to 371.5

South Lanarkshire   376.2 to 362.8  

Stirling   346.5 to 335.9 

Renfrewshire   345.1 to 332.2 

East Renfrewshire  360.2 to 331.0  

Dumfries & Galloway   341.2 to 329.8 

Western Isles   298.1 to 328.3  Oddly plagued at the moment in Barra well over 1000 per 100K

Aberdeenshire  334.8 to 325.6

Inverclyde 341.3 to 323.1

BELOW AVERAGE

Glasgow City  308.4 to 299.7

Midlothian 307.0 to 296.3 

Clackmannanshire  306.1 to 280.8 

Argyll & Bute   280.9 to 278.6

Aberdeen City  282.0 to 266.7

Moray  248.7 to 263.3

Perth & Kinross   285.0 to 258.7  

East Lothian   245.6 to 241.9

City Of Edinburgh    229.0 to 217.8

Scottish  Borders   205.7 to 216.1

Angus  220.2 to 196.0

Highlands   166.1 to 168.6

Shetland Islands 74.3 to 96.2

Orkney Islands   44.6 to 49.1 

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Swinney: Some people will never get vaccine passport app to work

https://news.stv.tv/politics/swinney-acknowledges-significant-problem-with-vaccine-passport-app?top

"Responding to comments about people without valid identification being unable to use the app, Swinney said: “What you do then is you get a paper copy, so it’s not discriminatory in any way, shape or form.”

So the app isn't needed then. 

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5 minutes ago, Left Back said:

What if the app becomes mandatory for international travel?  What do those people do then?

What do you think they should do?

If the app is mandatory for international travel, that is because the country you are travelling to requires it.  

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4 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

What do you think they should do?

If the app is mandatory for international travel, that is because the country you are travelling to requires it.  

I don't think that would wash somehow !!

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16 minutes ago, Left Back said:

What if the app becomes mandatory for international travel?  What do those people do then?

EU citizens can use a paper version, same as here. Nobody's going to ban people who don't have a smart phone from travelling.

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6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

What do you think they should do?

If the app is mandatory for international travel, that is because the country you are travelling to requires it.  

How about they fix the app, or provide the ability to manually verify identities instead of just shrugging their shoulders and saying “ah well”.

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13 minutes ago, Left Back said:

What if the app becomes mandatory for international travel?  What do those people do then?

Apparently they may also need a passport for international travel.  Might need to change some GBP into local currency as well if that is not too much trouble.

Heaven forbid they need a boarding pass.

Not for the faint hearted all this stuff.

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1 minute ago, superbigal said:

Apparently they may also need a passport for international travel.  Might need to change some GBP into local currency as well if that is not too much trouble.

Heaven forbid they need a boarding pass.

Not for the faint hearted all this stuff.

Do they need a driving licence if they want to drive abroad?

I'm OK. I've got one.

 

Edit: Not got the app yet though. Will leave that until I really have to.

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14 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

What do you think they should do?

If the app is mandatory for international travel, that is because the country you are travelling to requires it.  

I'd be surprised if the SG commissioned an app for the sole purpose of making something they are so strongly against easier.

We know the app was rushed, with the details not finalised until late on, and there has been a clear lack of foresight with regards to the database / ways round verifying your ID.

As predicted, a scheme created from the ground up by the SG has been a complete clusterfuck.

This announcement shows they could have stuck with the PDFs already available on phones, and integrated with the UK app for international travel should that become a requirement for travel.

Unless they are looking for an easy out in terms of an excuse for scrapping them entirely before the 18th none of this makes sense.

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32 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Swinney: Some people will never get vaccine passport app to work

https://news.stv.tv/politics/swinney-acknowledges-significant-problem-with-vaccine-passport-app?top

"Responding to comments about people without valid identification being unable to use the app, Swinney said: “What you do then is you get a paper copy, so it’s not discriminatory in any way, shape or form.”

So the app isn't needed then. 

Swinney completely ignoring the fact that a vaccine passport is discriminatory to those that havent had the vaccine for whatever reason. I dont think a politician  ever puts his foot in his mouth more than this tosser 

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Just now, Thereisalight.. said:

Swinney completely ignoring the fact that a vaccine passport is discriminatory to those that havent had the vaccine for whatever reason. I dont think a politician  ever puts his foot in his mouth more than this tosser 

If it's discriminatory, just about every other country in the World is the same. South American countries make you prove a yellow fever jag too.

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27 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

EU citizens can use a paper version, same as here. Nobody's going to ban people who don't have a smart phone from travelling.

So if someone phones up and requests a paper copy of their certificate how is their identity being validated?

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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

If it's discriminatory, just about every other country in the World is the same. South American countries make you prove a yellow fever jag too.

More than just S. America.

And more than just Yellow Fever.

..but yeah, this is something brand new. Fúck me, but this thread is a bin-fire.

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