Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[bendan]

6 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

I don't know where you get the 'unlikely to be badly affected' from, previously healthy people losing 3 or 4 stone in as many weeks is badly affected in my book, 

But do we know what proportion of people lose '3 or 4 stone in as many weeks'? I think the point is that it seems unlikely that will happen to most previously healthy people. The vast majority of people who are getting this are not tested and do not go to hospital.

[Mark Connolly]

4 minutes ago, Zen Archer Esq. said:

Dwight was a lot more accurate, wasn't he?

Misspelt footballers for this pish

[mathematics]

48 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

The level of emotional repression on this forum is weird. 

Any public displays of empathy, warmth or fear are jumped on with sneering, mocking, contempt and aggressive hostility. 

I know Scottish people have a reputation like many north west Europeans for being stoic or outright emotionally retrograde, but its on another level here given its the 2020s. For example any time a celebrity or famous person dies the forum is chock full of people mocking people expressing public grief, belittling it and going on about Diana syndrome. There is zero tolerance for any expressing of grief  beyond immediate family members. 

Then there is the inevitable mocking and sneering when there is a public tragedy or terrorist outrage. Again any signs of showing solidarity with the victims is attacked, the threads fill up with mocking "I went to empty the bins it could have been me" type posts. Normal humans (i.e. not you lot) will express their anxieties to each other at something as random as a bus crash to fatal terrorist attack; this will include expressing worries that it could have been them or their feelings of empathy with the victims. The emotional cripples here seem to live with the terror someone will expect them to reciprocate and emotionally bond with them. I guess its in part your insecure masculinity. 

Charity events: someone random gets in the news raising money. Its like they are digging up your grandmothers graves! As soon as there is a public outpouring of emotions for someone doing something the bullies are out and trying too belittle anyone support it is, well its a very sad window into your broken souls. (See the old boy whos walk raised money)

And now the clap for carers. Again any display of public emotion and you all explode into belittle, sneering, bullying and hate. 

Which brings me to the only emotions you ever allow yourselves to express, hate, anger, desire for violence, vengeance. Where you do express something resembling sympathy for someone, its usually simply as a pretext for anger and hate. So for example you will say something about the homeless then use that as a jump off point for how much you want to hurt\murder or just hate tories\Scottish Labour\English "gammons" or what ever. 

As a group hurtling towards your 50s at a fair rate of knots, you are for the most part, emotionally still about 13 years old. 

 

[Savage Henry]

I'd argue that faux grieving for a dead celebrity shows the  emotional maturity of a 13 year old far more than some dark humour over it.
Likewise the 'could have been me' stuff. That's just attention seeking nonsense.
Don't see what's wrong with empathy for victims though, and has there really been sneering at that? 
I believe with things like Clap for Carers it started with good intentions but we can see how easily that can be hijacked. I think that's more a reflection of our shit society than any sort of repressed emotion. Not questioning things is, again, more like a 13 year old than blindly accepting things. In an ideal world we'd accept these things in good spirit, but we don't live in such a world here, and the deep cynicism has been well earned.
I also reckon loads of folk on here play a character that isn't really representative of who they really are, at least not when it comes to certain issues. Also, as this is a public forum, some folk might not be comfortable with expressing themselves too much on here. It is supposed to be a bit a fun.
Also, take a look at the depression thread. Plenty of folk opening up there.

I think as time goes by, the more we should realise that nobody knows anything. Pie and Bovril is a release, and a time waster, and most of all an opportunity to talk bollocks about things most of us know anything about. The problem is that a handful of posters actually think their views amount to expertise, and take things far too seriously.

But that’s just a handful of folk and funnily enough their views get treated the least seriously, which makes it all the better as they don’t seem to realise it.

A while back there was a thread in which posters were able to list their genuine areas of expertise. Unfortunately it didn’t take off as too many folk assumed expertise in multiple fields and it just became a lesson in bluster. I still think over time there’s somebody on here who can assist with most reasonable issues, and quite a few specialist areas too. It boils down to whether we realise we don’t know anything about pandemic prevention or whether we pretend to have all the answers.

[Venti]

 

52 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

The level of emotional repression on this forum is weird. 

Any public displays of empathy, warmth or fear are jumped on with sneering, mocking, contempt and aggressive hostility. 

I know Scottish people have a reputation like many north west Europeans for being stoic or outright emotionally retrograde, but its on another level here given its the 2020s. For example any time a celebrity or famous person dies the forum is chock full of people mocking people expressing public grief, belittling it and going on about Diana syndrome. There is zero tolerance for any expressing of grief  beyond immediate family members. 

Then there is the inevitable mocking and sneering when there is a public tragedy or terrorist outrage. Again any signs of showing solidarity with the victims is attacked, the threads fill up with mocking "I went to empty the bins it could have been me" type posts. Normal humans (i.e. not you lot) will express their anxieties to each other at something as random as a bus crash to fatal terrorist attack; this will include expressing worries that it could have been them or their feelings of empathy with the victims. The emotional cripples here seem to live with the terror someone will expect them to reciprocate and emotionally bond with them. I guess its in part your insecure masculinity. 

Charity events: someone random gets in the news raising money. Its like they are digging up your grandmothers graves! As soon as there is a public outpouring of emotions for someone doing something the bullies are out and trying too belittle anyone support it is, well its a very sad window into your broken souls. (See the old boy whos walk raised money)

And now the clap for carers. Again any display of public emotion and you all explode into belittle, sneering, bullying and hate. 

Which brings me to the only emotions you ever allow yourselves to express, hate, anger, desire for violence, vengeance. Where you do express something resembling sympathy for someone, its usually simply as a pretext for anger and hate. So for example you will say something about the homeless then use that as a jump off point for how much you want to hurt\murder or just hate tories\Scottish Labour\English "gammons" or what ever. 

As a group hurtling towards your 50s at a fair rate of knots, you are for the most part, emotionally still about 13 years old. 

 

 ^^^

 

Edited April 17, 2020 by Slenderman

[ayrmad]

Just now, bendan said:

But do we know what proportion of people lose '3 or 4 stone in as many weeks'? I think the point is that it seems unlikely that will happen to most previously healthy people. The vast majority of people who are getting this are not tested and do not go to hospital.

It's a numbers game, there will be a large % of those who are elderly, have underlying health issues etc that get a mild dose as well, 9% of 30/40k will still be a big number before we even look at those with underling health issues that were unlikely to die over the next few years. 

[Jeff Venom]

Better out than in mate. Hope you feel better after getting it all out.

The level of emotional repression on this forum is weird. 
Any public displays of empathy, warmth or fear are jumped on with sneering, mocking, contempt and aggressive hostility. 
I know Scottish people have a reputation like many north west Europeans for being stoic or outright emotionally retrograde, but its on another level here given its the 2020s. For example any time a celebrity or famous person dies the forum is chock full of people mocking people expressing public grief, belittling it and going on about Diana syndrome. There is zero tolerance for any expressing of grief  beyond immediate family members. 
Then there is the inevitable mocking and sneering when there is a public tragedy or terrorist outrage. Again any signs of showing solidarity with the victims is attacked, the threads fill up with mocking "I went to empty the bins it could have been me" type posts. Normal humans (i.e. not you lot) will express their anxieties to each other at something as random as a bus crash to fatal terrorist attack; this will include expressing worries that it could have been them or their feelings of empathy with the victims. The emotional cripples here seem to live with the terror someone will expect them to reciprocate and emotionally bond with them. I guess its in part your insecure masculinity. 
Charity events: someone random gets in the news raising money. Its like they are digging up your grandmothers graves! As soon as there is a public outpouring of emotions for someone doing something the bullies are out and trying too belittle anyone support it is, well its a very sad window into your broken souls. (See the old boy whos walk raised money)
And now the clap for carers. Again any display of public emotion and you all explode into belittle, sneering, bullying and hate. 
Which brings me to the only emotions you ever allow yourselves to express, hate, anger, desire for violence, vengeance. Where you do express something resembling sympathy for someone, its usually simply as a pretext for anger and hate. So for example you will say something about the homeless then use that as a jump off point for how much you want to hurt\murder or just hate tories\Scottish Labour\English "gammons" or what ever. 
As a group hurtling towards your 50s at a fair rate of knots, you are for the most part, emotionally still about 13 years old. 

 

[bendan]

7 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

It's a numbers game, there will be a large % of those who are elderly, have underlying health issues etc that get a mild dose as well, 9% of 30/40k will still be a big number before we even look at those with underling health issues that were unlikely to die over the next few years. 

Yes, 9% of 40k is still a big number, but in terms of the overall healthy population under the age of 50 or 60, it wouldn't represent a big risk, or a risk greater than many other illnesses pose to that group.

[Cheese]

Thoughts and prayers with the folk who read that dorlomin post.

I was also browsing P&B, could have been me.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, dorlomin said:

The level of emotional repression on this forum is weird. 

Any public displays of empathy, warmth or fear are jumped on with sneering, mocking, contempt and aggressive hostility. 

I know Scottish people have a reputation like many north west Europeans for being stoic or outright emotionally retrograde, but its on another level here given its the 2020s. For example any time a celebrity or famous person dies the forum is chock full of people mocking people expressing public grief, belittling it and going on about Diana syndrome. There is zero tolerance for any expressing of grief  beyond immediate family members. 

Then there is the inevitable mocking and sneering when there is a public tragedy or terrorist outrage. Again any signs of showing solidarity with the victims is attacked, the threads fill up with mocking "I went to empty the bins it could have been me" type posts. Normal humans (i.e. not you lot) will express their anxieties to each other at something as random as a bus crash to fatal terrorist attack; this will include expressing worries that it could have been them or their feelings of empathy with the victims. The emotional cripples here seem to live with the terror someone will expect them to reciprocate and emotionally bond with them. I guess its in part your insecure masculinity. 

Charity events: someone random gets in the news raising money. Its like they are digging up your grandmothers graves! As soon as there is a public outpouring of emotions for someone doing something the bullies are out and trying too belittle anyone support it is, well its a very sad window into your broken souls. (See the old boy whos walk raised money)

And now the clap for carers. Again any display of public emotion and you all explode into belittle, sneering, bullying and hate. 

Which brings me to the only emotions you ever allow yourselves to express, hate, anger, desire for violence, vengeance. Where you do express something resembling sympathy for someone, its usually simply as a pretext for anger and hate. So for example you will say something about the homeless then use that as a jump off point for how much you want to hurt\murder or just hate tories\Scottish Labour\English "gammons" or what ever. 

As a group hurtling towards your 50s at a fair rate of knots, you are for the most part, emotionally still about 13 years old. 

 

You're probably right, that's what happens when you've grown up in the Thatcher era with a sense of hopelessness coupled with anger and a deep routed hatred.

Speaking personally, there's no doubt I'm very cynical and have a chip on my shoulder, however it's not without good reason.

[Mark Connolly]

1 minute ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Thoughts and prayers with the folk who read that dorlomin post.

I was also browsing P&B, could have been me.

[ayrmad]

11 minutes ago, bendan said:

Yes, 9% of 40k is still a big number, but in terms of the overall healthy population under the age of 50 or 60, it wouldn't represent a big risk, or a risk greater than many other illnesses pose to that group.

That's comparing apples and wheelbarrows though. 

[Melanius Mullarkey]

Has Dorlomin got the ‘Rona?

[Suspect Device]

Just watching the commons health committee on the BBC news and I'm strangely more interested in the carefully chosen backdrop the MPs have chosen for their broadcast.

Matt Hancock has chosen a large picture of the Queen. #staunch

Jeremy (C)Hunt likesto show how intelligent and environmentally friendly he is. Lots of books in the background and a cycling helmet hanging up.

Amy Callaghan (SNP) is in her kitchen. Just a boring old clock in the background.

Some bloke I've never heard of has a nice picture ofJohn Lennon.

[The OP]

5 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

Clapping to show support? We’ll have none of that on here thanks ya big emotional pansy.

[Jeff Venom]

_{Could of been me, come on now folks.}

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

Just watching the commons health committee on the BBC news and I'm strangely more interested in the carefully chosen backdrop the MPs have chosen for their broadcast.

Matt Hancock has chosen a large picture of the Queen. #staunch

Jeremy (C)Hunt likesto show how intelligent and environmentally friendly he is. Lots of books in the background and a cycling helmet hanging up.

Amy Callaghan (SNP) is in her kitchen. Just a boring old clock in the background.

Some bloke I've never heard of has a nice picture ofJohn Lennon.

I've been noticing this myself, how most seem to have a well stocked bookshelf with some "classics" to the fore and also a few musical instruments propped against the wall seems to be another favourite.

Not that it's staged or all thought out in advance of course, that would just be us being cynical again and no doubt bitter and twisted also.

[eindhovendee]

14 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

You're probably right, that's what happens when you've grown up in the Thatcher era with a sense of hopelessness coupled with anger and a deep routed hatred.

Speaking personally, there's no doubt I'm very cynical and have a chip on my shoulder, however it's not without good reason.

I am quite balanced about the whole thing.

I have a chip on both shoulders.

[Gaz]

On 02/04/2020 at 20:18, Gaz said:

The folk doing the clapping will be the same folk who start wearing poppies in September.

Said exactly this two weeks ago.

Before long we're going to have folk getting vitriolic about why you weren't outside clapping.

[Fullerene]

16 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

I've been noticing this myself, how most seem to have a well stocked bookshelf with some "classics" to the fore and also a few musical instruments propped against the wall seems to be another favourite.

Not that it's staged or all thought out in advance of course, that would just be us being cynical again and no doubt bitter and twisted also.

Missed a trick I would say.  After completing their predictions of doom and gloom, they would grab a musical instrument and perform "Always look on the bright side of Life".

Then they should cut to one of the other people for the next verse.

Bound to be a hit.