Elixir Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Btw, does @Detournement actually believe the horse de-wormer is an effective Covid remedy? Please tell me that's the case as I may have missed that episode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: You understand that if there was some kind of conspiracy to get your pictures onto a government database that using pictures from already existing government databases and telling people that was happening isn’t quite the masterstroke you make out. Passport and DL photos are already available for comparison with facial recognition. The terms of service you click without reading will be different from passports and driving licences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Elixir said: Btw, does @Detournement actually believe the horse de-wormer is an effective Covid remedy? Please tell me that's the case as I may have missed that episode. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/ It is being used widely and effectively in the global south. Ivermectin is a drug for humans not a horse dewormer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: That isn't true for everyone. But whatever makes you feel better. If you're plan is to lockdown forever and wear masks until the end of time to "protect" an extremely small number of people who have either refused or been unable to take the vaccine then you are, with respect, off yer tits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Detournement said: The terms of service you click without reading will be different from passports and driving licences. Lol ok mate. If youre using an apple or google phone you give them far more access to your life and privacy than anything the government would do with your passport picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, The Moonster said: If you're plan is to lockdown forever and wear masks until the end of time to "protect" an extremely small number of people who have either refused or been unable to take the vaccine then you are, with respect, off yer tits. No but it is still reasonable to have a mask mandate while coronavirus is at the level it is. We have just came off quite a big spike. I think that keeping the mask mandate until the virus is at the levels seen in the summer. And as I said most people aren't keeping to the mask mandate anyway so I don't think in the balance of harms that people are being unreasonably inconvenienced compared to the benefits of masks. Even if the only place a lot of people feel obligated to wear one is on a crowded train, bus or busy shop. Are there stats for how many people have been fined for not wearing a mask? It seems like if you don't want to wear one you literally don't have to. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Jim McLean's Ghost said: No but it is still reasonable to have a mask mandate while coronavirus is at the level it is. Serious question in that case. What is your acceptable level to remove the mask mandate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Abdul_Latif said: Serious question in that case. What is your acceptable level to remove the mask mandate? If you read the rest of my post... 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: I think that keeping the mask mandate until the virus is at the levels seen in the summer. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: If you read the rest of my post... It seems very non committal and ambiguous, but thanks anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Lol ok mate. If youre using an apple or google phone you give them far more access to your life and privacy than anything the government would do with your passport picture. I mean, we're here at the same point again. Its different to give than to have taken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 No but it is still reasonable to have a mask mandate while coronavirus is at the level it is. We have just came off quite a big spike. I think that keeping the mask mandate until the virus is at the levels seen in the summer. And as I said most people aren't keeping to the mask mandate anyway so I don't think in the balance of harms that people are being unreasonably inconvenienced compared to the benefits of masks. Even if the only place a lot of people feel obligated to wear one is on a crowded train, bus or busy shop. Are there stats for how many people have been fined for not wearing a mask? It seems like if you don't want to wear one you literally don't have to. ^^ Humza Useless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Abdul_Latif said: It seems very non committal and ambiguous, but thanks anyway. Do you want a number? IDK, I am not an expert but just for you Daily cases below 700 for 3 months. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: I mean, we're here at the same point again. Its different to give than to have taken. When you give the government your picture for a passport or dl its accessible to other agencies under the data protection act anyway, you are ‘giving’ this when you give them the image. But what you have with government use as opposed to apple etc is far more stringent control over its use via the OIC than any other user of your data. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 And as I said most people aren't keeping to the mask mandate anyway Source for this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Detournement said: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/ It is being used widely and effectively in the global south. Ivermectin is a drug for humans not a horse dewormer. Independent trials and research from eminent sources has shown that invermectin is no more effective a treatment than a placebo. There is anecdotal evidence that it may be a tad harmful too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Bairnardo said: Source for this? My own eyes. Trains, buses and big shops. People will wear a mask. In the cinema, walking out the football, leaving your table at the pub. I personally see almost zero compliance. I'm not saying people aren't wearing masks, I am saying they aren't wearing them in every situation where they are legally required. -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 My own eyes. Trains, buses and big shops. People will wear a mask. In the cinema, walking out the football, leaving your table at the pub. I personally see almost zero compliance. I'm not saying people aren't wearing masks, I am saying they aren't wearing them in every situation where they are legally required.What you said was "most people arent keeping to the mask mandate anyway". Thank you for clarifying the lack of a credible source tho m9 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: My own eyes. Trains, buses and big shops. People will wear a mask. In the cinema, walking out the football, leaving your table at the pub. I personally see almost zero compliance. I'm not saying people aren't wearing masks, I am saying they aren't wearing them in every situation where they are legally required. How do you know they aren’t exempt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: Why 700? That is around where we were before there was the big spike, a sort of background level. Therefore to me it seems like a reasonable number. But of course I am not an expert. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Why does it seem reasonable to you? Why not 600 or 800? I think you are going round in circles here. 5 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: That is around where we were before there was the big spike, a sort of background level Again though, I am not an expert. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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