GNU_Linux Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 There you go sorted - all league teams rewarded including all in play off places promoted, no relegations and four new junior teams given the chance. Clubs in the LL/HL are senior not junior. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLClyde Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 The only viable reconstruction I can see is a 14 team SPL with 3 leagues of 10 below it. No relegation, Brora and Kelty up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Michael W said: This would however see clubs lose a home fixture against one of the OF - I can't see that flying unfortunately. Whilst this is true it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't actually effect average crowds or hospitality revenue over a season given supporters would actually be more enthusiastic about attending the rest of the games. When we were in the SPL our home gate would drop by 1000 when one of the arsecheeks came to town. We've also seen the like of Killie, Hibs, Aberdeen etc reduce Celtic/ The Rangers away allocations recently, don't think these gate receipts are seen as important as they once were, especially with the hugely inflated policing costs now required for these games. St Johnstone have gone the other way this season but after many years or resisting tbf. Could also see it being a winner for the current bottom 6 type clubs - much less likely chance of getting relegated in future, and more chance of top flight derbies which the current premiership sorely lacks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I might be a million miles away but with the antics of the last 72 hours, and the Mickey Mouse SPFL how’s about the top four championship teams are promoted to make it 16 teams SPL. The void in the championship are replaced with four top teams in division 1. Division 1 teams are replaced with four top teams from division 2 and the league division 2 has four new teams promoted. There you go sorted - all league teams rewarded including all in play off places promoted, no relegations and four new junior teams given the chance. You mean 2 new teams from LL and HL, and 2 colts teams. Only way the arse cheeks would ever accept it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Not a main concern, but a concern, definitely. Partick Thistle have been well and truly shafted, feel more for them than I do for us.If it's unfair to declare Raith Rovers champions in an incomplete league season, then unfair to declare Falkirk runners up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champions Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, haufdaft said: If it's unfair to declare Raith Rovers champions in an incomplete league season, then unfair to declare Falkirk runners up. Agreed. Who would you promote if there was reconstruction and an extra team was required to round up the numbers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, SLClyde said: The only viable reconstruction I can see is a 14 team SPL with 3 leagues of 10 below it. No relegation, Brora and Kelty up. This is the only one that has any chance of getting passed I think. Can’t see the top team widening it up to a 16 team league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, haufdaft said: If it's unfair to declare Raith Rovers champions in an incomplete league season, then unfair to declare Falkirk runners up. Don't get your point, I'm on to make Partick Thistle's case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLClyde Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, roverthemoon said: This is the only one that has any chance of getting passed I think. Can’t see the top team widening it up to a 16 team league. The proposal with a 16 team top league would put Clyde, Peterhead and Forfar into the bottom tier again, along with keeping Cove down. 4 votes straight away that wouldn’t pass. You can’t reconstruct and make any club worse off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If an 11-1 Premiership majority is required to save Hearts via league reconstruction then it won’t happen. There’s nothing Budge can come up with that will incentivise all 11, this is a complete non-starter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Agreed. Who would you promote if there was reconstruction and an extra team was required to round up the numbers?I'm against any reconstruction at all. If teams don't deserve to be (wrongly) relegated then teams don't deserve to be promoted.My point is the hypocrisy of Falkirk if they agree to promotion based on second place when they objected to Rovers bring declared winners. Don't get your point, I'm on to make Partick Thistle's case.Thistle have a great case on principle. Falkirk don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Bantabairn said: I might be a million miles away but with the antics of the last 72 hours, and the Mickey Mouse SPFL how’s about the top four championship teams are promoted to make it 16 teams SPL. The void in the championship are replaced with four top teams in division 1. Division 1 teams are replaced with four top teams from division 2 and the league division 2 has four new teams promoted. There you go sorted - all league teams rewarded including all in play off places promoted, no relegations and four new junior teams given the chance. Except that it doesn't do that at all, as has been pointed out every time someone makes this suggestion. There will be teams sitting fairly comfortably in L1 will go to the lowest league division. There are few universally beneficial outcomes, 14-10-10-10 avoids "relegation". BTW "junior" teams are not involved in this in any way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Thistle have a great case on principle. Falkirk don't.I think there’s a difference between deserving promotion and being declared winners.I’ve stated several times, Raith deserve to go up.However Raith do not deserve to be crowned champions in an unfinished and very tight top two...Thistle were bottom on average points. They have no more nor less deserving a case than Falkirk imo.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Agreed. Who would you promote if there was reconstruction and an extra team was required to round up the numbers?Clyde - we beat Falkirk 3 times out of 3 so are clearly superior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Clyde - we beat Falkirk 3 times out of 3 so are clearly superior.It’s very clear that Clyde supporters see this as their achievement of the century. Well done in beating one of the worst Falkirk teams in living memory.It must feel like winning the Champions League for you.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, haufdaft said: I'm against any reconstruction at all. If teams don't deserve to be (wrongly) relegated then teams don't deserve to be promoted. My point is the hypocrisy of Falkirk if they agree to promotion based on second place when they objected to Rovers bring declared winners. Thistle have a great case on principle. Falkirk don't. If as a consequence of Thistle being saved from relegation through reconstruction that Falkirk are placed in the Championship then sure I'll take it. Falkirk FC, myself, and I think most of our fans, have been in favour of league reconstruction for quite some time. You have stated that you are not in favour of league reconstruction, I respect your point of view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny86 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Can we have a 12 team championship? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troy Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, SLClyde said: The only viable reconstruction I can see is a 14 team SPL with 3 leagues of 10 below it. No relegation, Brora and Kelty up. Leagues of 10 are boring make less leagues and more teams in them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If as a consequence of Thistle being saved from relegation through reconstruction that Falkirk are placed in the Championship then sure I'll take it. Falkirk FC, myself, and I think most of our fans, have been in favour of league reconstruction for quite some time. You have stated that you are not in favour of league reconstruction, I respect your point of view.I genuinely believe if Hearts were not in the relegation spot there would be no reconstruction. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Could it be that Dundee were angling for a 14 team premier league for more than a single season.If it’s only for a single season then we are committed to that before the campaign starts so everyone would know where they stand around relegation places BUT what if it’s actually quite popular. Going for 2 seasons could mean a vote after the first season is complete on whether to revert back or keep a 14 team premier. If voting to revert back this could then be implemented over the second season.From Dundee’s point of view that doesn’t get them up this season but it puts them in the driving seat next season with a potential 14 team league still in place making it easier to stay up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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