welshbairn Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Until they invent a secure and cool voting app with integrated game playing, the pensioners will always get their choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Given a chance to finally put the stain of the coalition behind them and they just jump back in again. Fair play to them. I was thinking about this the other day, joining forces with the Tories in 2010 really has f**ked them! To think this was the same party that wanted rid of Charles Kennedy over the direction the party was going in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, zidane's child said: I was thinking about this the other day, joining forces with the Tories in 2010 really has f**ked them! To think this was the same party that wanted rid of Charles Kennedy over the direction the party was going in. UK version of SLAB. Unless you're the DUP, nothing good will ever come to a party that jumps into bed with the Conservative party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Leaders since Clegg: "Sir" Vince Cable, religious-weirdo Thunderbird puppet Tim Farron, minor school prefect Jo "I'm going to be the next Prime Minister you know" Swinson, and now "Sir" Ed Davey, a hard-right, privatise everything, pro-carbon Tory who accidentally picked up the wrong rosette. A more utterly loathsome political formation it's hard to imagine. Spineless, venal, hypocritical, shape-shifting, irrelevant nonentities, too embarrassed to own their mediocre right-wing tendencies. The genesis of the current clusterfuck we are all in is their enabling Tory government in 2010. Calling them scumbags is to be over-generous. Thankfully their people-carrier's worth of parliamentarians and an ever-dwindling moronic following of be-sandaled oddballs will circle the plughole of irrelevance relentlessly in the decade ahead. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I think Lib Dem activists are actually underrated weirdos. Like, definitely the strangest group of mainstream political activists in the UK. I don't think I've ever met one who wasn't worryingly obsessed with Doctor Who. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Ed who? will be the reaction from most people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Ed who? will be the reaction from most people. Only those who can remember his first name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Ed who? will be the reaction from most people. Yip, I watched his acceptance speech and thought he was very uninspiring. Cant see anything other than their vote share dwindling further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Disappointed they didn't go for AdLib as leader tbh. Clegg destroyed them and Jo Swinson and her knockers were the best thing that ever happened to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 6 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Ed who? will be the reaction from most people. It was my reaction to this post for a few seconds and I intentionally clicked on this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 My absolute favourite LibDems thing is unquestionably Jo Swinson trying to convince us all she was going to be Prime Minister, then losing her seat. Absolutely fantastic stuff. They really are an utterly pointless joke of a party, both north and south of the border. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 In the FPTP system, there really isn't any point in them. They should merge with Labour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 22 hours ago, Ivo den Bieman said: Leaders since Clegg: "Sir" Vince Cable, religious-weirdo Thunderbird puppet Tim Farron, minor school prefect Jo "I'm going to be the next Prime Minister you know" Swinson, and now "Sir" Ed Davey, a hard-right, privatise everything, pro-carbon Tory who accidentally picked up the wrong rosette. A more utterly loathsome political formation it's hard to imagine. Spineless, venal, hypocritical, shape-shifting, irrelevant nonentities, too embarrassed to own their mediocre right-wing tendencies. The genesis of the current clusterfuck we are all in is their enabling Tory government in 2010. Calling them scumbags is to be over-generous. Thankfully their people-carrier's worth of parliamentarians and an ever-dwindling moronic following of be-sandaled oddballs will circle the plughole of irrelevance relentlessly in the decade ahead. Anything else nice to say about them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 27/08/2020 at 13:12, zidane's child said: I was thinking about this the other day, joining forces with the Tories in 2010 really has f**ked them! To think this was the same party that wanted rid of Charles Kennedy over the direction the party was going in. They wanted rid of Charles Kennedy beca use he had a drink problem - but don't tell anyone. The only time I ever saw him was in Victoria Wines in Inverness. Obviously only there to get change for the bus back to Fort William. In all fairness he probably had a better sense of how to entice voters to the Lib Dems cause then anyone who came after him. Nick Clegg joined the coalition in 2010 because it was in the national interest but quickly became Cameron's poodle if that was in the national interest too. I am using polite language here. The Lib Dems have great at pursuing the wishy washy vote - "I'm not for them or them or them - .. or them. 2010 wrecked that strategy. A long way to go before anyone cares to hear what they have to say about anything 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Fullerene said: They wanted rid of Charles Kennedy beca use he had a drink problem - but don't tell anyone. The only time I ever saw him was in Victoria Wines in Inverness. Obviously only there to get change for the bus back to Fort William. In all fairness he probably had a better sense of how to entice voters to the Lib Dems cause then anyone who came after him. Nick Clegg joined the coalition in 2010 because it was in the national interest but quickly became Cameron's poodle if that was in the national interest too. I am using polite language here. The Lib Dems have great at pursuing the wishy washy vote - "I'm not for them or them or them - .. or them. 2010 wrecked that strategy. A long way to go before anyone cares to hear what they have to say about anything Siding with the Tories in 2010 wasn't what fucked them, there wasn't really another option if they wanted power, it was selling themselves so cheaply. A half arsed PR voting reform referendum that was so limp they couldn't even be bothered to campaign for it, selling out on student fees and the bedroom tax etc, and choosing Tory lite Nick Clegg for a leader in the first place. And then voting for the Brexit referendum, followed by saying they'd ignore the result if they won in December. And now they've chosen the most boring whilst occasionally unhinged politician in Britain to take over from the comic pensioner and the bunny boiler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Aladdin said: In the FPTP system, there really isn't any point in them. They should merge with Labour. Why Labour? Nothing particularly Left about them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, welshbairn said: Siding with the Tories in 2010 wasn't what fucked them, there wasn't really another option if they wanted power, it was selling themselves so cheaply. I agree. Theresa May always looked threatened by the DUP but I don't think Cameron ever felt threatened by Clegg. They just sat there together with big smiles. I am surprised they were not holding hands. It must have been unnerving for their voters who hated the Tories. I doubt those voters will rush back to them any time soon. FPTP has been a disaster for the UK. It makes the Tories look more popular than they really are. It did the same for Tony Blair. I still remember Nigel Evans on breakfast TV in 2017 saying "I don't understand what went wrong. We got 43% of the vote. That should have given us a landslide". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wright scores Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 51 minutes ago, Fullerene said: FPTP has been a disaster for the UK. It makes the Tories look more popular than they really are. It did the same for Tony Blair. Playing devil's advocate here - It also means the SNP get a far bigger percentage of the Scottish seats in the UK parliament than their votes merit, so depending upon your view on independence (i.e. against) it could be deemed a disaster for Scottish voters as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, paul wright scores said: Playing devil's advocate here - It also means the SNP get a far bigger percentage of the Scottish seats in the UK parliament than their votes merit, so depending upon your view on independence (i.e. against) it could be deemed a disaster for Scottish voters as well. It also keeps loons like Farage out of Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It also keeps loons like Farage out of Parliament. .. and yet his party had more power and influence than the DUP even with zero MPs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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