HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: Mentality is obviously a big issue but it's easier for players to get their heads right when they aren't playing in weird positions. Tierney, Robertson, Forrest, McTominay and McGinn were all playing in positions that don't suit them. "Formations don't matter" is also a really stupid thing to say. Craig Levein lost his job over a formation. And if they really didn't matter we'd just field Robertson and Tierney at the back and play 8 midfielders. Of course where your players are on the pitch matters. Yes. I was defending a formation of 2-8-0. Good patter. My point was that an inability to make a single decent chance is not the fault of a formation. Changing the formation does not make us less shite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Aufc said: Give your head a wiggle It’s far from the worst suggestion in this thread, to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: Yes. I was defending a formation of 2-8-0. Good patter. My point was that an inability to make a single decent chance is not the fault of a formation. Changing the formation does not make us less shite If you're stance is "formations don't matter" then you're absolutely defending a 2-8-0, you're defending all formation selections. Wasn't trying to hit you with any patter, if Scotland were just to field their best players without worrying about formation then we probably would go 2-8-0 with this squad. The ability to create chances largely depends on having your most creative players playing in their best positions. Quite important to find a formation that allows that then. Playing a 3-4-3, with neither of your world class left backs able to play left back, your best defensive midfielder playing centre back and one of your strongest attacking midfielders being played as a right forward will largely hamper how you create chances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: We haven't seen that in a Scotland jersey,McTominey didn't pick his runner up in the costa rica game and played his part in losing a goal. He is not playing for Man Utd hes playing for Scotland, he is very tidy player on the ball but without the ball he is mince. S##n#ss never bothered picking up any runners , why did McTominay need to ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, G51 said: If we really are playing a bunch of haddies, then let's go with this. Nae bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, ewan14 said: Nae bad No, it’s definitely bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: No, it’s definitely bad. I dunno mate, it has players in their right positions and everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Brannigan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I don't think formation is an excuse either. For a team of footballers to fail to create a decent chance, at home, against a similar strength team is completely unacceptable at any level, let alone international. A bad performance can happen, like Friday. If it continues, however, then questions need to be asked of the mentality of the players as well as the managers ability to pick, set up and motivate them into performing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Aye, lets drop Scott McTominay because he left his runner in a fucking friendly with Costa Rica more than 2 years ago. You're a fucking moron, willy. Yep that's the point I was making dicks like you haven't got a clue,Pointing out something that a defensive midfielder needs to have in his locker going forward. McTominey needs to read the game better if he wants to play that position,you're a fucking clown for not recognizing that. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bernardblack Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Calls to drop Robertson...that’s a new low for P&B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: McTominey needs to read the game better if he wants to play that position,you're a fucking clown for not recognizing that. I think I'll take the opinion of Sir Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho over a fucking nugget that can't even spell McTominays name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishZizou Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 That formation the other night was shite. 4-3-2-1 Marshall, Palmer, McKenna, Tierney, Robertson, Mctominay, Mcginn, Armstrong, Forrest, Christie, Dykes. mctominay sitting in with Armstrong and mcginn taking turns to sit in. Unsure mcginn has the discipline for that but meh I couldn’t stand Jack and Mctominay passing backwards the entire time or Mcgregor passing to the other team the entire time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Yep that's the point I was making dicks like you haven't got a clue,Pointing out something that a defensive midfielder needs to have in his locker going forward. McTominey needs to read the game better if he wants to play that position,you're a fucking clown for not recognizing that. Until restart he’d been playing every game for Manchester United. That includes dominant European performances in 2019. He doesn’t need to step up his game, unless playing CB is where the rest of his career is headed, in which case I’d agree with you. If you think McTominay is our problem, god help us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Moonster said: I think I'll take the opinion of Sir Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho over a fucking nugget that can't even spell McTominays name. No one is doubting his potential you fucking halfwit but at 23 years old he is not the complete player. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: No one is doubting his potential you fucking halfwit but at 23 years old he is not the complete player. Who said he was? Not really disproving the moron theory here, Billy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: Until restart he’d been playing every game for Manchester United. That includes dominant European performances in 2019. He doesn’t need to step up his game, unless playing CB is where the rest of his career is headed, in which case I’d agree with you. If you think McTominay is our problem, god help us. Again I couldn't careless how he plays for Man Utd playing for Scotland is totally different experience for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Again I couldn't careless how he plays for Man Utd playing for Scotland is totally different experience for him. You’re kicking off after he played CB? Complaining that a centre back played backwards passes? How is that even possible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Who said he was? Not really disproving the moron theory here, Billy. Yep that's why Clarke played him in a back three. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Why can't Tierney play as one of 2 centre backs and the defensive mid drop in when the full backs get forward? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 A good performance and 3 points (with a half decent formation/starting 11) and I'd be happy to forget about Friday's toothless display. 4 points from the first 2 games would have been a good start, so if we've got lucky enough that the new Czech squad are bad enough to lose to us then I'll take it all day long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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