Kyle Reese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: The amount of money the FOH put in is outrageous. Is that all just fan money or is there folk like Anderson putting money in via that aswell? Shows the power the size of your support can have I guess. There will be some pretty decent donations in there too, I’d imagine. There will also be lots more small donations though. There’s probably more people at a tenner a month than anything else is my bet. I pay £51 p/m. It’s always, rightly, been promoted as an option to give only what you can afford. I suspect anyone who wants to put in larger amounts than say £1000 p/m probably does it direct to HMFC instead. The number of contributors rose sharply recently, reaching an all time high of >8700 monthly contributors. Previously it was between 8k and 9k. The long term plan has to be to get to 10k p/m contributors and >£2m p/a. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 19 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: All the details here https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/uploads/tinymce/Final 2021 Accounts HMFC.pdf Am I reading this right in that Hearts received £4.7M in donations from benefactors that is separate from FoH pledges? If so, who are the benefactors and is there a concern that this will dry up? I only ask, as it's similar to the questions we get every year haha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, AJF said: Am I reading this right in that Hearts received £4.7M in donations from benefactors that is separate from FoH pledges? If so, who are the benefactors and is there a concern that this will dry up? I only ask, as it's similar to the questions we get every year haha. You are reading it right. But it's not really similar because they are donations, not loans. There's no requirement to pay them back and we budget them accordingly. If they were to dry up, we wouldn't spend it. ' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: You are reading it right. But it's not really similar because they are donations, not loans. There's no requirement to pay them back and we budget them accordingly. If they were to dry up, we wouldn't spend it. ' Aye, I meant the question is similar, not necessarily the methods of funding. It's not an area I am au fait with, but Rangers are accused of "financial doping" by living outwith our means, sustained only by investment from shareholders. I suppose, I'm getting at why this would be viewed differently? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, AJF said: Aye, I meant the question is similar, not necessarily the methods of funding. It's not an area I am au fait with, but Rangers are accused of "financial doping" by living outwith our means, sustained only by investment from shareholders. I suppose, I'm getting at why this would be viewed differently? Probably because their 'donators' are giving away big money to them and probably expect something in return. Fortunately for us Anderson is donating financially the equivalent of the change in his back pocket. Edited November 17, 2021 by the jambo-rocker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: You are reading it right. But it's not really similar because they are donations, not loans. There's no requirement to pay them back and we budget them accordingly. If they were to dry up, we wouldn't spend it. ' The quantity of the donation also pretty much exactly matches the loss in revenue from the previous season. I'd expect the increase in turnover this year to exceed last season's donations, meaning they'll no longer be necessary. I've no idea what the arrangement with the benefactor(s) is but my impression has always been that the money has gone towards 1) building the stand and 2) getting through COVID - not about chucking money at wages. That's reflected in the fact our wage bill under Budge has always been <60% turnover, with the obvious exception of last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, AJF said: Am I reading this right in that Hearts received £4.7M in donations from benefactors that is separate from FoH pledges? If so, who are the benefactors and is there a concern that this will dry up? I only ask, as it's similar to the questions we get every year haha. Last year, James Anderson, our chief benefactor, signed up to five more years at least guaranteed. He’s also now on the club board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, DC92 said: The quantity of the donation also pretty much exactly matches the loss in revenue from the previous season. I'd expect the increase in turnover this year to exceed last season's donations, meaning they'll no longer be necessary. I've no idea what the arrangement with the benefactor(s) is but my impression has always been that the money has gone towards 1) building the stand and 2) getting through COVID - not about chucking money at wages. That's reflected in the fact our wage bill under Budge has always been <60% turnover, with the obvious exception of last season. If you look at Anderson’s history, he puts in money to causes that he feels benefit the local community/society. I think he’s only here because of the about turn that we took when Budge took over. We have changed our reputation to almost unrecognisable degrees. The guy is an absolute gem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, AJF said: Am I reading this right in that Hearts received £4.7M in donations from benefactors that is separate from FoH pledges? If so, who are the benefactors and is there a concern that this will dry up? I only ask, as it's similar to the questions we get every year haha. There is no way of me saying this without it looking like I’m having just a shitty dig at Rangers but Hearts fans stood up and saved their club when it was at threat of liquidation. Rangers fans, whether you wish to agree or not, allowed their club to be liquidated. That’s probably why people don’t ask the same question of Hearts and your company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Am I reading this right in that Hearts received £4.7M in donations from benefactors that is separate from FoH pledges? If so, who are the benefactors and is there a concern that this will dry up? I only ask, as it's similar to the questions we get every year haha.The concern would whether we could rely on another safety net being there if there’s another financial shock on the scale of the whole Covid/demotion omnishamblesAnd the crucial difference between this and Rangers situation is that rangers are being lent money by the people that own the club which means that it’s still technically debtThat’s not necessarily a problem but as we found out in the credit crunch soft debt can become hard pretty quickly if the creditor gets into trouble themselves My understanding is that Rangers have a few different sources so at least there isn’t a single point of failure like we had 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Must be nice having a rich guy pumping in free millions every year. Maybe Mr Anderson should pay some of the £15m that Ukio Bankas were owed from 2013? Where was he then? No pyramid scheme Bitcoin and inflated Tesla stock to ride on at BG? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: Must be nice having a rich guy pumping in free millions every year. Maybe Mr Anderson should pay some of the £15m that Ukio Bankas were owed from 2013? Where was he then? No pyramid scheme Bitcoin and inflated Tesla stock to ride on at BG? Maybe he could also pay some of the millions that Hibs and Farmer ripped off the tax payer for, when Farmer told Lloyds that Hibs couldn’t afford the mortgage on their properties, and agreed a 30p in the pound deal? Lloyds being tax payer owned at the time. Or maybe you could just get the f**k over it, and stop pretending Hibs are some kind of morally upstanding entity? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Kyle Reese said: Maybe he could also pay some of the millions that Hibs and Farmer ripped off the tax payer for, when Farmer told Lloyds that Hibs couldn’t afford the mortgage on their properties, and agreed a 30p in the pound deal? Lloyds being tax payer owned at the time. Or maybe you could just get the f**k over it, and stop pretending Hibs are some kind of morally upstanding entity? I don't recall any administrator running my club or a CVA ripping off small traders and charities .Aside from Ukios £15m iou here's who else your cheating club bumped: 2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153 A1 Minibus & Coaches £100 ADT Fire£1,033 Ayr United FC£1,750 Arnold Clark Finance£6,764 Allan Dick£50 Alasdair Fraser£528 Ardue House Hotel£180 AllStar Business Solutions£100 Alexander Szaorari£9,100 AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290 Baltic Clipper£497 Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100 Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970 Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000 BOC Gases£490 British Red Cross£76 BT£3,024 British Gas£580 BIG Hearts Community Trust£589 Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048 Business Line UAB£204,143 Cable & Wireless£2,198 James Calcer£1,411 Cameron Presentations£5,406 Campbell Medical Supplies£100 Janette Campbell£100 Cardiac Services£152 Charlie Irons Coaches£100 Chamic£100 Childcare Vouchers£100 B Ciocco£11,469 Citroen£5,232 Clearwater Technology£5,156 Clouds£6,870 Coerver Coaching Scotland£949 Concept Group£841 Copymade Ltd£100 Corona Energy Retail£29,729 The Insolvency Service£0 DJ Alexander£6,323 David Cameron£110 Miss Amal Daher£120 Dataserve UK£160 DC Lighting Services£652 DJB Fire & Safety Training£48 Outfield Harrison£1,816 Daisy Communications£1,474 Ensco 165 £509,464 Eamonn Collins£5,000 Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674 Elite Medicale£222 Ermington Associates£100 Egkijius Valiauga£863 Fife Imaging Associates£903 Fountain Court Apartments£100 Football Safety Officers£230 GF Capital Solutions£337 John Gibson£2,520 Glenham Property£100 Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000 Green Star Media£77 Greentech Sportsturf£1,056 G4S£12,057 GroupCall Ltd.£210 HM Revenue - VAT£0 HM Revenue£1,881,068 Hamilton & Brydie£144 Hectic Life£52 HBJ Gateley Wareing£100 Herriot Watt£145,655 Highlander Kilt Hire£430 Hitachi Capital£7 Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58 Homespring Ltd£499 Sven Housten£40 HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030 Impact Signs£6,499 InterLax£234 Interface En£100 James Armstrong & Co£1,520 Johnston Carmichael£100 Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410 James Sandison£680 J Thomson Colour Printers£100 Kauno Futbolo£13,431 Key Sports Management£23,049 Korelita£52,610 KPMG Hungary£1,190 Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185 Lietuvos Rytas£37 Livingston FC£282 Liverpool FC£46,625 Llyods TSB£17,165 Lex Autolease£1,159 Lochgreen Hotel£510 Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822 Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989 Ian Maclennan£335 McCraes Battalion Trust£100 Dr Carrie McCrea£760 Tony McGill£19,625 Dr Scott McKie£700 McRae of Gorgie£560 Meridan Hospital£790 Dr Andrew Murray£250 Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790 Michael Page International£100 NHS Lothian£75 NHS Fife £739 North Lanarkshire Council£100 Northgate Vechile Hire£100 Nuffield Health£4,645 OG Lawfirm£5,000 Orange£5,896 PHS Group£1,110 Pulsant Scotland£240 Paton Plant Ltd£3,290 Pendrich Height Services£6,552 Performing Right Society£13,995 Pitch International£4,746 PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325 PPL£4,133 Premier Sports£4,836 ProKit£100 ProAmica£34,899 Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410 Rapide Communication£176 Respublikos Investicija£62 Runos Vertimal£43 RWN Orthopaedics£100 Ryden Lettings£100 Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564 Robert Graeme Wilson£150 Spie Matthew£2,436 Spire Healthcare£3,118 Scottish Water£100 Steve Hutchison£3,430 Scottish Police Authority£18,585 Savills£20,602 Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454 Scomac Catering Equip.£100 Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544 Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467 Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254 Scottish Gas Business£347 Scrubbers Laundry£162 SDMS£411 Securevent Security£12,309 SFA£5,011 Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211 Scottish Hydro Electric£139 Jordan Shearer£90 Shred-it£457 Sky Business£100 Slaters£100 SNS Group£1,281 Spectator Seating£13,005 Speedy Power£100 Sportsmasters£1,648 Sporting ID£100 Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700 SRM Hearts£19,853 Scottish Power£100 St Andrews First Aid£364 Stenhousemuir FC£12,900 Stellar Football Ltd£5,750 Streamline Print Mgmt.£418 Superturas£26,636 Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700 T.G Baker Sound£2,656 ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378 City of Edinburgh Council£90,715 City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631 The Edinburgh Clinic£557 Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428 Talk Talk£5,548 The Rangers FC£1,410 Ticketmaster£33,112 TNT UK£8 TNT Post£56 Trichem£1,380 Technology Services Group£1,967 Turnstile Systems£810 UAB litcargus£1,166 UK Football Academy£228 Unum£2,300 UAB Ukio£8,151,497 Veecom Systems£3,525 Viola£290 Vodafone Connect£343 Wallace Brown/Langstane£956 Weatherseal£42 Western Saab£500 Dr David Whitaker£500 Scott Wilson£1,000 Yorkshire Clinic£2,562. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: I don't recall any administrator running my club or a CVA ripping off small traders and charities .Aside from Ukios £15m iou here's who else your cheating club bumped: 2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153 A1 Minibus & Coaches £100 ADT Fire£1,033 Ayr United FC£1,750 Arnold Clark Finance£6,764 Allan Dick£50 Alasdair Fraser£528 Ardue House Hotel£180 AllStar Business Solutions£100 Alexander Szaorari£9,100 AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290 Baltic Clipper£497 Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100 Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970 Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000 BOC Gases£490 British Red Cross£76 BT£3,024 British Gas£580 BIG Hearts Community Trust£589 Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048 Business Line UAB£204,143 Cable & Wireless£2,198 James Calcer£1,411 Cameron Presentations£5,406 Campbell Medical Supplies£100 Janette Campbell£100 Cardiac Services£152 Charlie Irons Coaches£100 Chamic£100 Childcare Vouchers£100 B Ciocco£11,469 Citroen£5,232 Clearwater Technology£5,156 Clouds£6,870 Coerver Coaching Scotland£949 Concept Group£841 Copymade Ltd£100 Corona Energy Retail£29,729 The Insolvency Service£0 DJ Alexander£6,323 David Cameron£110 Miss Amal Daher£120 Dataserve UK£160 DC Lighting Services£652 DJB Fire & Safety Training£48 Outfield Harrison£1,816 Daisy Communications£1,474 Ensco 165 £509,464 Eamonn Collins£5,000 Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674 Elite Medicale£222 Ermington Associates£100 Egkijius Valiauga£863 Fife Imaging Associates£903 Fountain Court Apartments£100 Football Safety Officers£230 GF Capital Solutions£337 John Gibson£2,520 Glenham Property£100 Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000 Green Star Media£77 Greentech Sportsturf£1,056 G4S£12,057 GroupCall Ltd.£210 HM Revenue - VAT£0 HM Revenue£1,881,068 Hamilton & Brydie£144 Hectic Life£52 HBJ Gateley Wareing£100 Herriot Watt£145,655 Highlander Kilt Hire£430 Hitachi Capital£7 Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58 Homespring Ltd£499 Sven Housten£40 HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030 Impact Signs£6,499 InterLax£234 Interface En£100 James Armstrong & Co£1,520 Johnston Carmichael£100 Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410 James Sandison£680 J Thomson Colour Printers£100 Kauno Futbolo£13,431 Key Sports Management£23,049 Korelita£52,610 KPMG Hungary£1,190 Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185 Lietuvos Rytas£37 Livingston FC£282 Liverpool FC£46,625 Llyods TSB£17,165 Lex Autolease£1,159 Lochgreen Hotel£510 Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822 Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989 Ian Maclennan£335 McCraes Battalion Trust£100 Dr Carrie McCrea£760 Tony McGill£19,625 Dr Scott McKie£700 McRae of Gorgie£560 Meridan Hospital£790 Dr Andrew Murray£250 Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790 Michael Page International£100 NHS Lothian£75 NHS Fife £739 North Lanarkshire Council£100 Northgate Vechile Hire£100 Nuffield Health£4,645 OG Lawfirm£5,000 Orange£5,896 PHS Group£1,110 Pulsant Scotland£240 Paton Plant Ltd£3,290 Pendrich Height Services£6,552 Performing Right Society£13,995 Pitch International£4,746 PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325 PPL£4,133 Premier Sports£4,836 ProKit£100 ProAmica£34,899 Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410 Rapide Communication£176 Respublikos Investicija£62 Runos Vertimal£43 RWN Orthopaedics£100 Ryden Lettings£100 Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564 Robert Graeme Wilson£150 Spie Matthew£2,436 Spire Healthcare£3,118 Scottish Water£100 Steve Hutchison£3,430 Scottish Police Authority£18,585 Savills£20,602 Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454 Scomac Catering Equip.£100 Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544 Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467 Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254 Scottish Gas Business£347 Scrubbers Laundry£162 SDMS£411 Securevent Security£12,309 SFA£5,011 Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211 Scottish Hydro Electric£139 Jordan Shearer£90 Shred-it£457 Sky Business£100 Slaters£100 SNS Group£1,281 Spectator Seating£13,005 Speedy Power£100 Sportsmasters£1,648 Sporting ID£100 Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700 SRM Hearts£19,853 Scottish Power£100 St Andrews First Aid£364 Stenhousemuir FC£12,900 Stellar Football Ltd£5,750 Streamline Print Mgmt.£418 Superturas£26,636 Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700 T.G Baker Sound£2,656 ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378 City of Edinburgh Council£90,715 City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631 The Edinburgh Clinic£557 Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428 Talk Talk£5,548 The Rangers FC£1,410 Ticketmaster£33,112 TNT UK£8 TNT Post£56 Trichem£1,380 Technology Services Group£1,967 Turnstile Systems£810 UAB litcargus£1,166 UK Football Academy£228 Unum£2,300 UAB Ukio£8,151,497 Veecom Systems£3,525 Viola£290 Vodafone Connect£343 Wallace Brown/Langstane£956 Weatherseal£42 Western Saab£500 Dr David Whitaker£500 Scott Wilson£1,000 Yorkshire Clinic£2,562. Aye, getting your geriatric sugar daddy to go crying to LBG on your behalf, and wipe out millions of pounds of debt (when they are tax payer owned) is way more morally upstanding, right enough. Sit down mate, you’re making an absolute spectacle of yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: I don't recall any administrator running my club or a CVA ripping off small traders and charities .Aside from Ukios £15m iou here's who else your cheating club bumped: 2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153 A1 Minibus & Coaches £100 ADT Fire£1,033 Ayr United FC£1,750 Arnold Clark Finance£6,764 Allan Dick£50 Alasdair Fraser£528 Ardue House Hotel£180 AllStar Business Solutions£100 Alexander Szaorari£9,100 AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290 Baltic Clipper£497 Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100 Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970 Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000 BOC Gases£490 British Red Cross£76 BT£3,024 British Gas£580 BIG Hearts Community Trust£589 Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048 Business Line UAB£204,143 Cable & Wireless£2,198 James Calcer£1,411 Cameron Presentations£5,406 Campbell Medical Supplies£100 Janette Campbell£100 Cardiac Services£152 Charlie Irons Coaches£100 Chamic£100 Childcare Vouchers£100 B Ciocco£11,469 Citroen£5,232 Clearwater Technology£5,156 Clouds£6,870 Coerver Coaching Scotland£949 Concept Group£841 Copymade Ltd£100 Corona Energy Retail£29,729 The Insolvency Service£0 DJ Alexander£6,323 David Cameron£110 Miss Amal Daher£120 Dataserve UK£160 DC Lighting Services£652 DJB Fire & Safety Training£48 Outfield Harrison£1,816 Daisy Communications£1,474 Ensco 165 £509,464 Eamonn Collins£5,000 Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674 Elite Medicale£222 Ermington Associates£100 Egkijius Valiauga£863 Fife Imaging Associates£903 Fountain Court Apartments£100 Football Safety Officers£230 GF Capital Solutions£337 John Gibson£2,520 Glenham Property£100 Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000 Green Star Media£77 Greentech Sportsturf£1,056 G4S£12,057 GroupCall Ltd.£210 HM Revenue - VAT£0 HM Revenue£1,881,068 Hamilton & Brydie£144 Hectic Life£52 HBJ Gateley Wareing£100 Herriot Watt£145,655 Highlander Kilt Hire£430 Hitachi Capital£7 Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58 Homespring Ltd£499 Sven Housten£40 HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030 Impact Signs£6,499 InterLax£234 Interface En£100 James Armstrong & Co£1,520 Johnston Carmichael£100 Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410 James Sandison£680 J Thomson Colour Printers£100 Kauno Futbolo£13,431 Key Sports Management£23,049 Korelita£52,610 KPMG Hungary£1,190 Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185 Lietuvos Rytas£37 Livingston FC£282 Liverpool FC£46,625 Llyods TSB£17,165 Lex Autolease£1,159 Lochgreen Hotel£510 Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822 Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989 Ian Maclennan£335 McCraes Battalion Trust£100 Dr Carrie McCrea£760 Tony McGill£19,625 Dr Scott McKie£700 McRae of Gorgie£560 Meridan Hospital£790 Dr Andrew Murray£250 Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790 Michael Page International£100 NHS Lothian£75 NHS Fife £739 North Lanarkshire Council£100 Northgate Vechile Hire£100 Nuffield Health£4,645 OG Lawfirm£5,000 Orange£5,896 PHS Group£1,110 Pulsant Scotland£240 Paton Plant Ltd£3,290 Pendrich Height Services£6,552 Performing Right Society£13,995 Pitch International£4,746 PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325 PPL£4,133 Premier Sports£4,836 ProKit£100 ProAmica£34,899 Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410 Rapide Communication£176 Respublikos Investicija£62 Runos Vertimal£43 RWN Orthopaedics£100 Ryden Lettings£100 Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564 Robert Graeme Wilson£150 Spie Matthew£2,436 Spire Healthcare£3,118 Scottish Water£100 Steve Hutchison£3,430 Scottish Police Authority£18,585 Savills£20,602 Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454 Scomac Catering Equip.£100 Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544 Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467 Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254 Scottish Gas Business£347 Scrubbers Laundry£162 SDMS£411 Securevent Security£12,309 SFA£5,011 Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211 Scottish Hydro Electric£139 Jordan Shearer£90 Shred-it£457 Sky Business£100 Slaters£100 SNS Group£1,281 Spectator Seating£13,005 Speedy Power£100 Sportsmasters£1,648 Sporting ID£100 Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700 SRM Hearts£19,853 Scottish Power£100 St Andrews First Aid£364 Stenhousemuir FC£12,900 Stellar Football Ltd£5,750 Streamline Print Mgmt.£418 Superturas£26,636 Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700 T.G Baker Sound£2,656 ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378 City of Edinburgh Council£90,715 City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631 The Edinburgh Clinic£557 Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428 Talk Talk£5,548 The Rangers FC£1,410 Ticketmaster£33,112 TNT UK£8 TNT Post£56 Trichem£1,380 Technology Services Group£1,967 Turnstile Systems£810 UAB litcargus£1,166 UK Football Academy£228 Unum£2,300 UAB Ukio£8,151,497 Veecom Systems£3,525 Viola£290 Vodafone Connect£343 Wallace Brown/Langstane£956 Weatherseal£42 Western Saab£500 Dr David Whitaker£500 Scott Wilson£1,000 Yorkshire Clinic£2,562. I think the best thing about this post, is that you have a word document saved, so you can copy and paste a creditors list on a football forum, when you get a bit upset. Have you any idea how tragic that makes you, mate? Genuinely hope you are a kid and not an adult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: I don't recall any administrator running my club or a CVA ripping off small traders and charities .Aside from Ukios £15m iou here's who else your cheating club bumped: 2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153 A1 Minibus & Coaches £100 ADT Fire£1,033 Ayr United FC£1,750 Arnold Clark Finance£6,764 Allan Dick£50 Alasdair Fraser£528 Ardue House Hotel£180 AllStar Business Solutions£100 Alexander Szaorari£9,100 AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290 Baltic Clipper£497 Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100 Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970 Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000 BOC Gases£490 British Red Cross£76 BT£3,024 British Gas£580 BIG Hearts Community Trust£589 Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048 Business Line UAB£204,143 Cable & Wireless£2,198 James Calcer£1,411 Cameron Presentations£5,406 Campbell Medical Supplies£100 Janette Campbell£100 Cardiac Services£152 Charlie Irons Coaches£100 Chamic£100 Childcare Vouchers£100 B Ciocco£11,469 Citroen£5,232 Clearwater Technology£5,156 Clouds£6,870 Coerver Coaching Scotland£949 Concept Group£841 Copymade Ltd£100 Corona Energy Retail£29,729 The Insolvency Service£0 DJ Alexander£6,323 David Cameron£110 Miss Amal Daher£120 Dataserve UK£160 DC Lighting Services£652 DJB Fire & Safety Training£48 Outfield Harrison£1,816 Daisy Communications£1,474 Ensco 165 £509,464 Eamonn Collins£5,000 Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674 Elite Medicale£222 Ermington Associates£100 Egkijius Valiauga£863 Fife Imaging Associates£903 Fountain Court Apartments£100 Football Safety Officers£230 GF Capital Solutions£337 John Gibson£2,520 Glenham Property£100 Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000 Green Star Media£77 Greentech Sportsturf£1,056 G4S£12,057 GroupCall Ltd.£210 HM Revenue - VAT£0 HM Revenue£1,881,068 Hamilton & Brydie£144 Hectic Life£52 HBJ Gateley Wareing£100 Herriot Watt£145,655 Highlander Kilt Hire£430 Hitachi Capital£7 Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58 Homespring Ltd£499 Sven Housten£40 HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030 Impact Signs£6,499 InterLax£234 Interface En£100 James Armstrong & Co£1,520 Johnston Carmichael£100 Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410 James Sandison£680 J Thomson Colour Printers£100 Kauno Futbolo£13,431 Key Sports Management£23,049 Korelita£52,610 KPMG Hungary£1,190 Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185 Lietuvos Rytas£37 Livingston FC£282 Liverpool FC£46,625 Llyods TSB£17,165 Lex Autolease£1,159 Lochgreen Hotel£510 Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822 Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989 Ian Maclennan£335 McCraes Battalion Trust£100 Dr Carrie McCrea£760 Tony McGill£19,625 Dr Scott McKie£700 McRae of Gorgie£560 Meridan Hospital£790 Dr Andrew Murray£250 Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790 Michael Page International£100 NHS Lothian£75 NHS Fife £739 North Lanarkshire Council£100 Northgate Vechile Hire£100 Nuffield Health£4,645 OG Lawfirm£5,000 Orange£5,896 PHS Group£1,110 Pulsant Scotland£240 Paton Plant Ltd£3,290 Pendrich Height Services£6,552 Performing Right Society£13,995 Pitch International£4,746 PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325 PPL£4,133 Premier Sports£4,836 ProKit£100 ProAmica£34,899 Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410 Rapide Communication£176 Respublikos Investicija£62 Runos Vertimal£43 RWN Orthopaedics£100 Ryden Lettings£100 Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564 Robert Graeme Wilson£150 Spie Matthew£2,436 Spire Healthcare£3,118 Scottish Water£100 Steve Hutchison£3,430 Scottish Police Authority£18,585 Savills£20,602 Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454 Scomac Catering Equip.£100 Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544 Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467 Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254 Scottish Gas Business£347 Scrubbers Laundry£162 SDMS£411 Securevent Security£12,309 SFA£5,011 Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211 Scottish Hydro Electric£139 Jordan Shearer£90 Shred-it£457 Sky Business£100 Slaters£100 SNS Group£1,281 Spectator Seating£13,005 Speedy Power£100 Sportsmasters£1,648 Sporting ID£100 Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700 SRM Hearts£19,853 Scottish Power£100 St Andrews First Aid£364 Stenhousemuir FC£12,900 Stellar Football Ltd£5,750 Streamline Print Mgmt.£418 Superturas£26,636 Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700 T.G Baker Sound£2,656 ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378 City of Edinburgh Council£90,715 City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631 The Edinburgh Clinic£557 Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428 Talk Talk£5,548 The Rangers FC£1,410 Ticketmaster£33,112 TNT UK£8 TNT Post£56 Trichem£1,380 Technology Services Group£1,967 Turnstile Systems£810 UAB litcargus£1,166 UK Football Academy£228 Unum£2,300 UAB Ukio£8,151,497 Veecom Systems£3,525 Viola£290 Vodafone Connect£343 Wallace Brown/Langstane£956 Weatherseal£42 Western Saab£500 Dr David Whitaker£500 Scott Wilson£1,000 Yorkshire Clinic£2,562. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Kyle Reese said: Aye, getting your geriatric sugar daddy to go crying to LBG on your behalf, and wipe out millions of pounds of debt (when they are tax payer owned) is way more morally upstanding, right enough. Sit down mate, you’re making an absolute spectacle of yourself. You should be totally ashamed of that list of the stiffed by HOMFC. Small clubs, small traders, CHARITIES all who got zero as unsecured creditors. Just the three cups to hand back. Farmer stiffed nobody except in your little maroon pumpkin heed. Any restructuring was agreed and above board. No admin and no cva. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, Sortmeout said: There is no way of me saying this without it looking like I’m having just a shitty dig at Rangers but Hearts fans stood up and saved their club when it was at threat of liquidation. Rangers fans, whether you wish to agree or not, allowed their club to be liquidated. That’s probably why people don’t ask the same question of Hearts and your company. That’s fair. I’m of the opinion that debate is for another time and place, however I’m not sure why the previous financial peril (and recovery) of Hearts would materially change anyone’s opinion on whether relying on benefactor donations should be viewed entirely different from relying on investor cash injections? It’s also been said that the money provided to Rangers will need to be repaid, but, as far as I am led to believe, the majority of the shortfall is made up from share issues or loans from investors that have little intention of calling them in - they’ll be converted to shares. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Snifter Pee Rot said: You should be totally ashamed of that list of the stiffed by HOMFC. Small clubs, small traders, CHARITIES all who got zero as unsecured creditors. Just the three cups to hand back. Farmer stiffed nobody except in your little maroon pumpkin heed. Any restructuring was agreed and above board. No admin and no cva. Dude. I’m here for you, dude. Let it all out. Have a wee cry (we won’t judge you, we will support you), and make yourself a nice hot chocolate. When you feel a bit better, we can discuss the details of how Hibs stiffed the tax payer for millions. Until then, just let it all out, my friend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: You should be totally ashamed of that list of the stiffed by HOMFC. Small clubs, small traders, CHARITIES all who got zero as unsecured creditors. Just the three cups to hand back. Farmer stiffed nobody except in your little maroon pumpkin heed. Any restructuring was agreed and above board. No admin and no cva. fkn outstanding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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