Phillips455 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) Update 2: Fixture dates and Televised games announced. Saturday November 28 Alloa Athletic v Heart of Midlothian Arbroath v Dunfermline Athletic Hibernian v Dundee Livingston v Ayr United Motherwell v St Johnstone St Mirren v Aberdeen – Live on Premier Sports, ko 5.15pm Sunday November 29 Celtic v Ross County – Live on Premier Sports, ko 2.00pm Falkirk v Rangers – Live on Premier Sports, ko 5.00pm Source: https://spfl.co.uk/news/betfred-cup-r2-details-confirmed-47147 Update: the draw has taken place and will be the following fixtures. These will take place on the weekend of November 28/29. TV fixtures and PPV listings are TBD. Celtic v Ross County Falkirk v Rangers Livingston v Ayr United St Mirren v Aberdeen Hibernian v Dundee Arbroath v Dunfermline Motherwell v St Johnstone Alloa Athletic v Hearts Original text: Hello everyone. We are nearly at the Round of 16 stage of this years League cup with all 16 competitors confirmed (Seeding still yet to be fully decided). We would be further ahead in the schedule if it wasn't for some Major Pandemic interfering, but in any case, the draw is nearly upon us. The 2020 League Cup fixtures have nearly wrapped up, with 1 to go (Dundee vs Hibernian game), but the qualified teams have all been confirmed, with only the seeding for 3 teams to be confirmed. You can see the list of confirmed teams down below: Seeded: Celtic Rangers Motherwell Aberdeen Hearts Dunfermline Livingston One of Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County Unseeded: One of Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County One of Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County Arbroath Falkirk Ayr United St Mirren St Johnstone Alloa Athletic Regarding the situation with Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County, it is simple. Ross County are currently the 4th highest winners out of all of the groups. they have 11 points from the 4 games which would normally lead to a seeded place. However both Hibernian And Dundee have 9 points and are due to play each other. This means a win for either team would leave them unseeded. Similarly if it is a draw and Dundee win the bonus point, they will also be unseeded. Here is a breakdown of who will be seeded depending on which result. Dundee: Win or Draw + win the bonus point. Hibernian: Win. Ross County: Draw + Hibernian win the bonus point. The Dundee vs Hibernian game is on Premier Sport tomorrow at 16:30, with the actual draw to take place shortly after on the same channel. Other websites like BBC and Sky Sports will also cover the draw. What are your thoughts about this draw? Who would you prefer in the last 16 (if your team has made it? Ideally I hope to avoid another Premiership Club as we seem to get either Premiership or recently relegated teams. I'm hoping for the easiest ties available, such as Alloa, Ayr United or Arbroath. Also good luck! Edit 1: Mistakenly put Annan instead of Ayr. The BBC website still had them on 7 points and therefor Annan ahead on goal difference) Edited November 17, 2020 by Phillips455 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Ayr through, not Annan.Though based on today it'll still be one of the easiest ties for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: Ayr through, not Annan. Though based on today it'll still be one of the easiest ties for you. Yeah. The BBC had Annan and Ayr level on points for some reason (With Annan on top on Goal Difference). Edit: It was the bonus point that was missing. Edited November 14, 2020 by Phillips455 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Dunfermline please. If Dundee end up seeded then that would be great. We've drawn Celtic in either cup competition 3 times in the past 2-3 years, so wouldn't be surprised if we get them again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clashcityrocker Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, Phillips455 said: I'm hoping for the easiest ties available, such as Alloa, Ayr United or Arbroath. You sure these will be the "easiest" ties ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Airdrie are out of the tournament so I fear nobody 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keptie Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, clashcityrocker said: You sure these will be the "easiest" ties ? I think he must've forgotten about Falkirk and Dundee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralstonite Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Dunfermline, Livingston or Dundee at home, please! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian38018 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Seems to be a bit unfair that some section winners are seeded, whilst others are not. Far fairer to pair up the four section runners-up with the four Europe clubs, then pair the 8 group winners with each other. But ultimately, all the SFA and Betfred want is an OF Final, so everyone else can go whistle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Ian38018 said: Seems to be a bit unfair that some section winners are seeded, whilst others are not. Far fairer to pair up the four section runners-up with the four Europe clubs, then pair the 8 group winners with each other. But ultimately, all the SFA and Betfred want is an OF Final, so everyone else can go whistle. Why would it be fairer to seed 4 teams who finished 2nd than the 4 best team over the course of the group stage? Edited November 15, 2020 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Seems to be a bit unfair that some section winners are seeded, whilst others are not. Far fairer to pair up the four section runners-up with the four Europe clubs, then pair the 8 group winners with each other. But ultimately, all the SFA and Betfred want is an OF Final, so everyone else can go whistle.The European qualifiers have already had a bye and you want to set them up with an even easier draw in the second round as well? That doesn’t sound particularly fair Note that I reserve to change my mind next time Hearts are back in the top 4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian38018 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Why would it be fairer to seed 4 teams who finished 2nd than the 4 best team over the course of the group stage? Sorry - My explanation was clumsy. I suppose I mean we should have three tiers of seeds. One - Europe sides Two - Group Winners Three - Group runners-up But perhaps I am over-complicating things. And , as another poster rightly stated - why should the Europe sides (who have already had a bye), be favoured? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Should do away with seedings after the group stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 When is the draw being made and is it on TV or radio at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 21 hours ago, Phillips455 said: Hello everyone. We are nearly at the Round of 16 stage of this years League cup with all 16 competitors confirmed (Seeding still yet to be fully decided). We would be further ahead in the schedule if it wasn't for some Major Pandemic interfering, but in any case, the draw is nearly upon us. The 2020 League Cup fixtures have nearly wrapped up, with 1 to go (Dundee vs Hibernian game), but the qualified teams have all been confirmed, with only the seeding for 3 teams to be confirmed. You can see the list of confirmed teams down below: Seeded: Celtic Rangers Motherwell Aberdeen Hearts Dunfermline Livingston One of Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County Unseeded: One of Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County One of Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County Arbroath Falkirk Ayr United St Mirren St Johnstone Alloa Athletic Regarding the situation with Dundee/Hibernian/Ross County, it is simple. Ross County are currently the 4th highest winners out of all of the groups. they have 11 points from the 4 games which would normally lead to a seeded place. However both Hibernian And Dundee have 9 points and are due to play each other. This means a win for either team would leave them unseeded. Similarly if it is a draw and Dundee win the bonus point, they will also be unseeded. Here is a breakdown of who will be seeded depending on which result. Dundee: Win or Draw + win the bonus point. Hibernian: Win. Ross County: Draw + Hibernian win the bonus point. The Dundee vs Hibernian game is on Premier Sport tomorrow at 16:30, with the actual draw to take place shortly after on the same channel. Other websites like BBC and Sky Sports will also cover the draw. What are your thoughts about this draw? Who would you prefer in the last 16 (if your team has made it? Ideally I hope to avoid another Premiership Club as we seem to get either Premiership or recently relegated teams. I'm hoping for the easiest ties available, such as Alloa, Ayr United or Arbroath. Also good luck! Edit 1: Mistakenly put Annan instead of Ayr. The BBC website still had them on 7 points and therefor Annan ahead on goal difference) The beginning of this post reads like a script for live Sky coverage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Ian38018 said: Seems to be a bit unfair that some section winners are seeded, whilst others are not. Far fairer to pair up the four section runners-up with the four Europe clubs, then pair the 8 group winners with each other. But ultimately, all the SFA and Betfred want is an OF Final, so everyone else can go whistle. What has the SFA got to do with anything? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It's honestly just a case of what seeded team will give us a hiding and get a bye into the next round. I'd take Livi at Dens I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Looking forward to our pumping* *not really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Where can I view this online? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Listening on BBC and Richard Gordon refusing to read the seeding numbers. IMO because it is 3. Motherwell, 4. Aberdeen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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