Erih Shtrep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rammit Bawdeep said: Think in the right team Turnbull is different gravy, the biggest shortcoming will be if he stays with them and becomes brainwashed like Mcstay Broon et al Give it 2 mins and G51 will be on stating how Armstrong was far better than Paul McStay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Rammit Bawdeep said: Not sure I could see a formation where Turnbull and Christie would work for Scotland (which seems to need a bit tin in the middle). Both fantastic talents though. Christie's the deputy for Fraser, so it'd look like Jack - McGregor Turnbull (for McGinn) Christie (for Fraser) - Dykes In our usual 5-2-3/5-2-1-2 formation. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BucksburnDandy said: Laxalt is dog shit is my only conclusion of watching the last 20 minutes of this game. He does seem to be implicated in this catastrophe of a season Edited January 11, 2021 by ewan14 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Erih Shtrep said: I see you wanted him subbed until he scored with one of only two touches of class in a poor game. Of course both came from DT. Thankfully the Celtic manager is on nodding terms with what's *actually* going on. There's absolutely no proof to suggest Fleck is good defensively, indeed a quick check to the 'Blades forum' will confirm you're talking pish. McTominay, Gilmour, Jack are the best defensive midfielders. Perhaps you can come out of this with some credit and compare Armstrong v Turnbull over the last few months? Or you can retreat into the long grass. Are you his dad? I thought he should be subbed because he was blowing out his arse for the last half-hour. As he regularly is, because he isn't getting very good fitness coaching at Celtic. That's not his fault, but it's the reality of the situation. Hitting a great free-kick doesn't disprove that. The proof that Fleck is good defensively is in his Scotland performances and last year at Sheff Utd. There's no doubting his quality. You really want to do a comparison of Armstrong, who's produced the goods in the Premier League for a good while now, against Turnbull, who only got into the worst Celtic side in a generation a month ago? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Everyman and their dug knows the best midfielders in Scotland during the season is as follows: 1. Glen Kamara. 2. David Turnbull /rest. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammit Bawdeep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Erih Shtrep said: Everyman and their dug knows the best midfielders in Scotland during the season is as follows: 1. Glen Kamara. 2. David Turnbull /rest. This 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, G51 said: Are you his dad? I thought he should be subbed because he was blowing out his arse for the last half-hour. As he regularly is, because he isn't getting very good fitness coaching at Celtic. That's not his fault, but it's the reality of the situation. Hitting a great free-kick doesn't disprove that. The proof that Fleck is good defensively is in his Scotland performances and last year at Sheff Utd. There's no doubting his quality. You really want to do a comparison of Armstrong, who's produced the goods in the Premier League for a good while now, against Turnbull, who only got into the worst Celtic side in a generation a month ago? You're flawed analysis would have led to a home defeat. I guess they were delighted they had a interim manager instead of the likes of yourself and your level involved. I'd love you to re-read the last sentence. Stupidity on stilts. Edited January 11, 2021 by Erih Shtrep -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Donald Trump may be on his way out, but at least we'll always have PB. A truly prodigious posting talent, still getting results after all these years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Mixed emotions seeing that result. In the end seeing one of the arse cheeks making a c**t of it never fails to raise a smile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Celtic are a Clusterfuck wrapped in an Omnishambles at the moment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Christie's the deputy for Fraser, so it'd look like Jack - McGregor Turnbull (for McGinn) Christie (for Fraser) - Dykes In our usual 5-2-3/5-2-1-2 formation. McGinn has been playing the deeper role for villa through their good spell and has been excellent at it alongside Douglas Luiz, allowing Grealish the advanced role with wide men either side of him.That for me is his strongest position, in the deeper two as a link man playing beside a destroyer. As much as I'm a fan of McGregor, McGinn is better in that position than he is.Armstrong plays off the right or left these days for Southampton and I'm a fan of his as well. He rarely, if ever, plays centrally.Depends on the shape played obviously, but in a 4-2-3-1 there's a place for all the players being discussed in the positions they play for their clubs and leaving a direct choice between Christie and Turnbull at 10.In 3-5-2 like we've been playing, Armstrong is likely the one who misses out as we lose a wide player with Fraser (the other one) playing off Dykes.TLDR: there's space in the Scotland team for Turnbull, who looks very good, if both perform the way they have been then at the expense of Christie, who would obviously still be in the squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I think I'd go. G51. 1. Scott McTominey 2. John McGinn 3. Billy Gilmour 4. David Turnbull 5. Callum McGregor 6. Ryan Jack 7. Stuart Armstrong 8. John Fleck 9. Barry Bannan 10. Kenny Mclean @Carnoustie Young Guvnor -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammit Bawdeep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Erih Shtrep said: I think I'd go. G51. 1. Scott McTominey 2. John McGinn 3. Billy Gilmour 4. David Turnbull 5. Callum McGregor 6. Ryan Jack 7. Stuart Armstrong 8. John Fleck 9. Barry Bannan 10. Kenny Mclean @Carnoustie Young Guvnor In what formation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Rammit Bawdeep said: In what formation Excellent humour. No there's all my CM's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammit Bawdeep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Erih Shtrep said: Excellent humour. No there's all my CM's. I'd have Gimour in goals to be fair, make his presence felt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I think I'd go. G51. 1. Scott McTominey 2. John McGinn 3. Billy Gilmour 4. David Turnbull 5. Callum McGregor 6. Ryan Jack 7. Stuart Armstrong 8. John Fleck 9. Barry Bannan 10. Kenny Mclean [mention=78729]Carnoustie Young Guvnor[/mention] I'd split it down further into the roles. One of the mistakes we've made for years with Scotland is trying to play all our best players at the same time and fitting square pegs into round holes just to get them all in the team.Sometimes you just need to pick the best at each role.Also think you're over selling Gilmore just now. Great talent, but you don't end up third in a list after half a dozen games, as promising as those have been.In order of selection, for me:6: - McTominay- Jack (under rated IMO and this one is close)8:- McGinn- McGregor- Fleck- McLean- Gilmour (he'll jump up with experience)10:- Turnbull- Christie7/11:- Fraser- Armstrong- Forrest (when fit) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, gaz5 said: McGinn has been playing the deeper role for villa through their good spell and has been excellent at it alongside Douglas Luiz, allowing Grealish the advanced role with wide men either side of him. That for me is his strongest position, in the deeper two as a link man playing beside a destroyer. As much as I'm a fan of McGregor, McGinn is better in that position than he is. Armstrong plays off the right or left these days for Southampton and I'm a fan of his as well. He rarely, if ever, plays centrally. Depends on the shape played obviously, but in a 4-2-3-1 there's a place for all the players being discussed in the positions they play for their clubs and leaving a direct choice between Christie and Turnbull at 10. In 3-5-2 like we've been playing, Armstrong is likely the one who misses out as we lose a wide player with Fraser (the other one) playing off Dykes. TLDR: there's space in the Scotland team for Turnbull, who looks very good, if both perform the way they have been then at the expense of Christie, who would obviously still be in the squad. I don't really see us switching to 4-2-3-1, or indeed any other formation except the 5-2-3 because IMO it serves two primary purposes: 1) It gets Tierney and Robertson both in the team, in positions that they're comfortable in 2) It completely hides the worst part of our squad, which is our dogshit centre backs. There's a reason we've been able to put players like Gallagher and Considine in there and make them look like world beaters. It isn't because they've suddenly become international-class CBs, it's because they're only being asked to do what they're good at - header the ball away and when you get the ball, fire it long to a big striker. When the 5-2-3/5-3-2 first came out, it looked a mess and I think we all thought it was a disaster. But it was a proper stroke of genius from Clarke. We should have just trusted him. This is probably a conversation for the TA section now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Are we all in agreement that Erih Shtrep and Rammit is one guy agreeing with himself? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Merkland Red said: Are we all in agreement that Erih Shtrep and Rammit is one guy agreeing with himself? Yip, Thought I'd clicked on the "annoying boring b*****d in the pub talking shite" thread for a minute....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, G51 said: I don't really see us switching to 4-2-3-1, or indeed any other formation except the 5-2-3 because IMO it serves two primary purposes: 1) It gets Tierney and Robertson both in the team, in positions that they're comfortable in 2) It completely hides the worst part of our squad, which is our dogshit centre backs. There's a reason we've been able to put players like Gallagher and Considine in there and make them look like world beaters. It isn't because they've suddenly become international-class CBs, it's because they're only being asked to do what they're good at - header the ball away and when you get the ball, fire it long to a big striker. When the 5-2-3/5-3-2 first came out, it looked a mess and I think we all thought it was a disaster. But it was a proper stroke of genius from Clarke. We should have just trusted him. This is probably a conversation for the TA section now. Tartan army threads for this pish. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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