Cosmic Joe Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Clearly missed the lecture on military surrendering at Port Glasgow Tech. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DiegoDiego Posted November 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2022 What makes VT such a great poster is his willingness to admit when he's wrong. Imagine if he just flew into threads two footed, studs up, only to then slink off into the night after realising he'd made an arse of things. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Rishi Sunak is visiting Kyiv today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Rishi Sunak is visiting Kyiv today. You just know ol’Liz is thinking, how many days has he been PM so far…what if… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 53 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Rishi Sunak is visiting Kyiv today. One good strike from Ivan and we'll be on our 4th PM this year... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, oaksoft said: I'm going out on a limb here but I'm beginning to think that you might not be the history expert you seem to have convinced yourself that you are. ...or you could just ignore his obvious flamebait so he moves on and finds another target for his narcissistic and sociopathic behaviour. Much the same comment is applicable to Sergeant Wilson's patter. Best not to give them the attention they crave. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: ...or you could just ignore his obvious flamebait so he moves on and finds another target for his narcissistic and sociopathic behaviour. Much the same comment is applicable to Sergeant Wilson's patter. Best not to give them the attention they crave. However, Sarge’s is generally entertaining and mostly lighthearted…VT is like Sauron on the rag. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oystercatcher Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I've been watching a lot of stuff on YouTube, can you imagine if Irish paramilitary organisations had drones back in the day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbykdy Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: ...or you could just ignore his obvious flamebait so he moves on and finds another target for his narcissistic and sociopathic behaviour. Much the same comment is applicable to Sergeant Wilson's patter. Best not to give them the attention they crave. Sarge has actually calmed down, I haven't really seen any of his close to the bone Auschwitz type jokes and the like in a good while which makes me suspect one of the mods had a word. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Wee Bully said: You can be an expert in absolutely everything without any experience you know. Looks like we're now following the 'University of Life' syllabus. The entire concept of abstract knowledge being denied by a teacher of all professions! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, oaksoft said: It happens a lot. The British at Singapore in WW2 for a start. Define 'a lot' please, in the context of military conflicts - modern ones will do just fine. You've identified a single high-profile case. For your assertion to be true though, we also need to consider the base rate of situations in which the numerically superior side did not surrender as well. Indeed the very reason why the Singapore surrender remains infamous in British military history is the fact that they did so - it was highly unusual (and therefore considered shameful) and so gets remembered. If Britain's forces had just surrendered all over the shop then they wouldn't have been able to loot a quarter of the world in the first place. The idea that there's a magic code of war that combatants know to follow when they're surrendering - but only to an inferior force - is not supported by historical evidence or (more importantly in this case) common sense and basic logic as well. No amount of meathead posturing on Twitter changes that reality. Edited November 19, 2022 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Can't believe people are actually having a go at the louche sergeant for pin p***king the pomposity of some of our armchair generals on here, and occasionally mocking his own fictional military background. If you want hardcore from him, search out his revolutionary bereavement therapy techniques for the recently widowed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Meanwhile back on topic a gas pipeline went boom on the outskirts of St Petersburg and the Russians are skeptical on it being an accident. Wonder if somebody with a -chuk or -enko type surname has paid the area a visit recently with some high explosives. Way too far to be a drone or missile launched from Ukrainian territory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 A gas pipeline has blown up near St Petersberg, someone filmed it from a graveyard. Goth af. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Can't believe people are actually having a go at the louche sergeant for pin p***king the pomposity... It goes well beyond that on occasion into behaviour that is quite clearly socipathic and at times highly distasteful like the way he was hassling the Clyde fan who was visiting Lviv recently for no other reason that being a complete p***k. Edited November 19, 2022 by LongTimeLurker -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) This guy is normally on the ball but who is likely to run out first? The Russians on missiles when their industries are under sanctions or the Ukrainians with more and more anti-missile systems being supplied by NATO? My money is on the former. Is the reason that the Russians have to send more and more missiles to overload Ukrainian defences not that those defences have been strengthening over time? Edited November 19, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: It goes well beyond that on occasion into behaviour that is quite clearly socipathic and at times highly distateful like the way he was hassling the Clyde fan who was visiting Lviv recently for no other reason that being a complete p***k. In the interests of control, would you be so kind to list your social boundaries for the benefit of us all? With that knowledge, we'll all be able to comply with your norms and it'll save you from further anti sock diatribes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, ICTChris said: A gas pipeline has blown up near St Petersberg, someone filmed it from a graveyard. Goth af. Sounds like the MO of the Russian revolutionary anarchists who've been subtly sabotaging rail lines and petrol bombing mobilisation offices. Kremlin TV and Medvedev are in a panic about them, could be an excuse for martial law and full mobilisation. Not that I'm wildly speculating or anything... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 8 hours ago, oaksoft said: It happens a lot. The British at Singapore in WW2 for a start. I'm surprised your legendary history expertise isn't helping you out here TBH. I'd definitely recommend reading some military history books. The British may have had twice as many troops but with the loss of their water supply they had to surrender. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, sophia said: In the interests of control, would you be so kind to list your social boundaries for the benefit of us all? With that knowledge, we'll all be able to comply with your norms and it'll save you from further anti sock diatribes ...or we can all just try to stick to the topic and ignore people who want to derail the thread. Guess the flying lawnmower drones are the one angle that might help the Russians to keep going; Edited November 19, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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