Elixir Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Rangers fans need to get it through their cretinous skulls that unless they cough up closer to £10m, Shankland won't be going anywhere in January. Alas, they are a bunch of utter tramps, so they won't. This ain't ~2010 where Hearts are toiling for cash and urgently need to sell. We have no reason to, and he is clearly happy enough at present. The board also know they are under pressure after the recent AGM and won't entertain anything other than silly money. Nor can he afford to down tools and/or chuck the toys out the pram to try and force a move if he hopes to be on the plane to Germany, let alone push to start as Scotland's number nine in the summer. The ball is firmly in Heart of Midlothian's court. Unlucky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. X said: I've been going to derbies since the 1980's and enjoyed countless victories. Hearts always finishing each decade with the better Derby record. However, as each decades passes I'm always slightly concerned that Hearts superiority might come to an end. So delighted that already, it looks like the 2020's will be another Hearts decade. Edinburgh is maroon. HHGH As long as I can remember, they've always had a reason why it's going to be their decade/time/century. It never is. Mind when we went into admin and this was going to be their time of dominance? How's that working out, lads? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Another atrocious Edinburgh derby to watch. Absolutely zero quality from either side until Shankland’s winner. Derek Adams was maybe onto something… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 All these diddies slagging the derby for quality must be watching their own teams play champagne football 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: Another atrocious Edinburgh derby to watch. Absolutely zero quality from either side until Shankland’s winner. Derek Adams was maybe onto something… Couldn't give a flying f**k, mate. Dunfermline sound like some team. Enjoy your night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) Big thing for me tonight was that I thought Beni was fucking outstanding. He's not quite back to the level he was at pre-injury, but that was a proper performance where he made a difference to the game and a lot of our good play and periods of control went through him. Frankie Kent has been an excellent signing and was really good tonight. It wasn't a great game, and it wasn't a great performance. But, for us, a draw would have been fine, to be honest. In terms of the table etc. And I never felt we were likely to lose. Always felt we were comfortable in the game. Hibs needed the win more than us, but never really looked likely to get it. Well done, all. Edited December 28, 2023 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Shite game, great win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Elixir said: Rangers fans need to get it through their cretinous skulls that unless they cough up closer to £10m, Shankland won't be going anywhere in January. Alas, they are a bunch of utter tramps, so they won't. This ain't ~2010 where Hearts are toiling for cash and urgently need to sell. We have no reason to, and he is clearly happy enough at present. The board also know they are under pressure after the recent AGM and won't entertain anything other than silly money. Nor can he afford to down tools and/or chuck the toys out the pram to try and force a move if he hopes to be on the plane to Germany, let alone push to start as Scotland's number nine in the summer. The ball is firmly in Heart of Midlothian's court. Unlucky. I don’t think many Rangers fans would expect to get Shankland on the cheap. He is absolutely lethal, a player really carrying a side right now. I actually agree that we probably can’t afford him, but to suggest a price tag of £10m is very wishful thinking, IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: Shite game, great win EdinburghDerby.txt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 There'll be loads and loads written and spoken about Shankland in the coming weeks. It's quite simple. Finishing 3rd is probably worth £4-5m to Hearts. With Shankland, I think we're favourites to do that. Without him, it's very much up in the air. If we get offered £4m or more, I think there's a discussion to be had and a decision to be made. Below that, I don't really see a rationale for selling him. If other clubs don't think he's worth that, that's fine. If his goals get us third and we sell him for a lower fee next summer, then we come out of the deal up overall and are well placed to replace him. Seems obvious to me. And if he goes to the Euros and scores a goal or wins a corner, then we might be able to bump that up a bit. I don't see why we'd sell this January unless it's daft money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tackle Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 What is the head to head wins in derbies since “the level playing field” and pilfering of poppy money ceased? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie Jambo Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 We could and should pay him plenty We can match probably anyone bar a saudi outfit Would he even go there though? I doubt it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Tackle said: What is the head to head wins in derbies since “the level playing field” and pilfering of poppy money ceased? 16-9 to Hearts. We've beaten them as many times at Easter Road and Hampden as they have won derbies altogether in that period. Edited December 28, 2023 by VincentGuerin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tackle Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: 16-9 to Hearts. We've beaten them as many times at Easter Road and Hampden as they have won derbies altogether in that period. Best rivals ever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, AJF said: I don’t think many Rangers fans would expect to get Shankland on the cheap. He is absolutely lethal, a player really carrying a side right now. I actually agree that we probably can’t afford him, but to suggest a price tag of £10m is very wishful thinking, IMO. I said closer to £10m. Plenty folk, whether at the wind-up or not, reckon £2/3m and he'll be away. Pure fantasy. Rangers would probably get him for £7/8m, but they won't/can't pay that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: There'll be loads and loads written and spoken about Shankland in the coming weeks. It's quite simple. Finishing 3rd is probably worth £4-5m to Hearts. With Shankland, I think we're favourites to do that. Without him, it's very much up in the air. If we get offered £4m or more, I think there's a discussion to be had and a decision to be made. Below that, I don't really see a rationale for selling him. If other clubs don't think he's worth that, that's fine. If his goals get us third and we sell him for a lower fee next summer, then we come out of the deal up overall and are well placed to replace him. Seems obvious to me. And if he goes to the Euros and scores a goal or wins a corner, then we might be able to bump that up a bit. I don't see why we'd sell this January unless it's daft money. He won't be sold in January unless it's for ridiculous money, and anything equivalent or below what we'll make for finishing third doesn't fall into that category. Ideal scenario is he injures himself for a few months while scoring the winner in the Euros final, which causes other clubs to look elsewhere, before he then signs a new five-year bumper deal with Hertz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Elixir said: I said closer to £10m. Plenty folk, whether at the wind-up or not, reckon £2/3m and he'll be away. Pure fantasy. Rangers would probably get him for £7/8m, but they won't/can't pay that. Nobody is going to pay £7/8m for him, let alone Rangers. I agree we can’t afford him. He is worth a lot of money to Hearts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, AJF said: Nobody is going to pay £7/8m for him, let alone Rangers. I agree we can’t afford him. He is worth a lot of money to Hearts. If nobody is going to pay that, it's fine by me as it means he won't be going anywhere in January. He is the difference between us getting European riches and not, which obviously has to be taken into account regarding his overall valuation. His value will likely come down a bit in the summer unless he has a stormer at the Euros, but even then it will still take £3/4m to land his signature. I imagine this is what will probably happen, unless come the summer Rangers end up looking elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Hibs surely have to give up at some point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, VincentGuerin said: Couldn't give a flying f**k, mate. Dunfermline sound like some team. Enjoy your night. No one said you should tbh. Odd to reply when you don’t care though. Dunfermline are shite but that has hee-haw to do with last night’s tedious Edinburgh derby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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