No_Problemo Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I didn’t want Moyes anyway, but his comments strengthen that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I haven't checked on Asado and Malbec, but the Argie fans I've spoken to loathe Sampaoli and see him as having made a complete arse of the World Cup in 2018. He had a wealth of attacking talent at his disposal and his tactic was essentially play everything through Messi, who he had in a slightly deeper role and made them very easy to defend against. If we want a manager who'll set up the team conservatively and have no plan B then I think we already have one. In terms of budget, I've mentioned it on another thread, but the FAI sought outside sponsorship to pay Trappatoni and I think we should do the same to attract a top candidate. Otherwise I'm happy for Clarke to remain so long as he learns and adapts. I don't think Moyes is anything like the answer to our prayers and McInnes even less so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) We need to at least open it up to beyond Scotland. That list of the usual suspects gives me the fear. Edited June 25 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 hours ago, MarkoP said: Regards attendance at the NL games I’ve already bought those tickets, can’t miss the points but am seriously considering entering then leaving the stadium If you've got two tickets for the Portugal match, you could just sell them to me because I missed out and only managed to get Finland tickets ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Moyes is a far superior manager to Clarke. He might not be Postecoglou in terms of smooth, attacking football but he wouldn't have set us up to be timid and self-effacing. That was pathetic from Clarke. A shitebag's shitebag. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Amazed nobody's mentioned Ian Cathro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, velo army said: I haven't checked on Asado and Malbec, but the Argie fans I've spoken to loathe Sampaoli and see him as having made a complete arse of the World Cup in 2018. He had a wealth of attacking talent at his disposal and his tactic was essentially play everything through Messi, who he had in a slightly deeper role and made them very easy to defend against. If we want a manager who'll set up the team conservatively and have no plan B then I think we already have one. In terms of budget, I've mentioned it on another thread, but the FAI sought outside sponsorship to pay Trappatoni and I think we should do the same to attract a top candidate. Otherwise I'm happy for Clarke to remain so long as he learns and adapts. I don't think Moyes is anything like the answer to our prayers and McInnes even less so. Mate we were saying learns and adapts 4 years ago, and unbelievably were much more negative and worse. If he learns and adapts again we might line up with 11 guys on the goalline against Poland. There's so many guys out there, I just can't get my head round anyone wanting to stick with this. On sampaoli tbh it wasn't really a researched suggestion, was just shooting the shit. So if he messed up Argentinas campaign or not ive no idea. But he's knows for high press attacking football so I don't think he's going to be negative. Edited June 25 by Bing.McCrosby 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 On 24/06/2024 at 19:03, Kadouken_ said: Someone who isn’t a complete shitebag and first thought is always to go after the opposition in every game. Bielsa would be the dream but he’s at Uruguay with some cracking young talent to come through so will probably be there for a couple of campaigns. Sampaoli would be a poorer version of Bielsa but at least has the same style. Someone who can also overhaul the whole system and bring in a load of staff at every level would be Rangnick. Give him big money, even it means outside investment, a long term deal and tell him he’s in charge of everything. Him being the manager would be an added bonus on top of all of that. Joachim Lowe another who is be asking if there would even be a chance he’d consider it. We all know though it’s Moyes, McInnes or O’Neill. Merry Christmas. McInnes out of that three for me. Or Benitez from the list above. Moyes would be turgid, I fear plus can he work with, organise and motivate a bunch of mostly mediocre players with no cheque book to fall back upon? Am interested in hearing the arugments for Moyes though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 8 minutes ago, Crùbag said: McInnes out of that three for me. Or Benitez from the list above. Moyes would be turgid, I fear plus can he work with, organise and motivate a bunch of mostly mediocre players with no cheque book to fall back upon? Am interested in hearing the arugments for Moyes though. One argument I was considering for Moyes over say McInnes is that he could potentially pull players dual nationality players that McInnes or maybe Clarke maybe couldn't. I'm not sure if that's a strong argument or not so feel free to poke holes in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Just now, 2426255 said: One argument I was considering for Moyes over say McInnes is that he could potentially pull players dual nationality players that McInnes or maybe Clarke maybe couldn't. I'm not sure if that's a strong argument or not so feel free to poke holes in it. Good point though it seems that some - like Gunn and Adams - needed a fair bit of pulling apparently to choose us. Would rather go for home-grown unless it's clear they really want to wear the jersey. Haven't seen enough of Moyes as a manager to make an informed decision though. Good at Everton, pish at Man U and meh at West Ham. If he can organise and isn't scared to attack then maybe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 hours ago, accies1874 said: I think that a Scotland team managed by Russell Martin would literally kill off all the glengarry-wearers for good. who doesn't hate a former player coming back as manager? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I mean, neither are good options but Derek fucking McInnes over a guy that has successfully managed for numerous years in the English Premiership. Wild stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 On 24/06/2024 at 14:34, 2426255 said: What's the point in the discussion then? How do you know what's realistic and what isn't? On 24/06/2024 at 14:40, 2426255 said: Eh, no thanks. I'll leave you to your fun and I can see you're really enjoying it. Enjoy. Now 27 minutes ago, 2426255 said: One argument I was considering for Moyes over say McInnes is that he could potentially pull players dual nationality players that McInnes or maybe Clarke maybe couldn't. I'm not sure if that's a strong argument or not so feel free to poke holes in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 hours ago, Scary Bear said: Was relegating Inverness to the Seaside League a good thing? Must have been. Good luck to the lad. Relegated that Forest Green vegan shower as well. Would he keep us at our present NL level? Omens aren't good... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 15 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: I mean, neither are good options but Derek fucking McInnes over a guy that has successfully managed for numerous years in the English Premiership. Wild stuff. It’s insane, and yet entirely predictable. If the recruitment process was outsourced to a neutral European organisation, Moyes is the only Scot that would get remotely near an interview. I’m always staggered at the short-sighted and small-world view that is so prevalent in Scottish football. A shortlist is proposed of *checks notes* a list of managers with either zero international experience, or consistent and total failure to make a mark in any European competition. Yes - let’s pick them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bing Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: It’s insane, and yet entirely predictable. If the recruitment process was outsourced to a neutral European organisation, Moyes is the only Scot that would get remotely near an interview. I’m always staggered at the short-sighted and small-world view that is so prevalent in Scottish football. A shortlist is proposed of *checks notes* a list of managers with either zero international experience, or consistent and total failure to make a mark in any European competition. Yes - let’s pick them. I know it's not serious but it would be a great idea to outsource the employment. Just need the sfa to realise they are absolutely useless. Which is unlikely Edited June 25 by Bing.McCrosby 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 24 minutes ago, Bing.McCrosby said: Now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Do we think Derek Adams will take it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 On 24/06/2024 at 13:31, Bing.McCrosby said: We don't decide the budget, or have access to that information as we're not the sfa. We're fans discussing potential candidates. I know that the SFA paid Southampton £400k for George Burley. If they hadn't, he was getting sacked within a couple of months. The Southampton board couldn't believe their luck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Moyes, clearly. But if he refuses....has to be Yogi. He only ever failed in Fife. Took ICT - a league 1 sjde now - to the Scottish Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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