Hoose Rice Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 52 minutes ago, Glen Scotia said: You often call yourself mate? f**k, wrong post quoted. Carry on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Scotia Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 18 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: f**k, wrong post quoted. Carry on. I was just being a dick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 On 26/06/2024 at 09:52, hk blues said: Surely every fan of every other team in the league is, even though they might not admit it? If your from Perth please disregard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 5 hours ago, C4mmy31 said: If your from Perth please disregard How dare you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonam Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 County ain't going down. This is not what happens... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoP Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Can’t see past St Johnstone for 12th place Other than that who knows Id like to think we’ll be clear of the bottom four but a lot will depend on whether Messrs Cameron and McCowan are still on board for the season. With them County, Well, St Johnstone and Utd at least should be in the rear view mirror Hibs also possibly 4th place not impossible but probably too much of an ask over a season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Motherwell likely to have a very different looking team next season so it's kind hard to say with any certainty. However St Johnstone look like a goldfish that's started swimming sideways. Will be interesting to see how Dundee do since about half their squad was loans last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 15 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Motherwell likely to have a very different looking team next season so it's kind hard to say with any certainty. However St Johnstone look like a goldfish that's started swimming sideways. Will be interesting to see how Dundee do since about half their squad was loans last season. Even better than last as we'll be able to attract a better class of loanee. That's the theory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Scotia Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, hk blues said: Even better than last as we'll be able to attract a better class of loanee. That's the theory. What makes you think you will be able to attract a better class of loan player than last year? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Glen Scotia said: What makes you think you will be able to attract a better class of loan player than last year? Because we have a successful campaign under our belt. I'd say we are a more attractive option now than we were 12 months ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Scotia Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) 16 minutes ago, hk blues said: Because we have a successful campaign under our belt. I'd say we are a more attractive option now than we were 12 months ago. I'm not sure that's how players or other clubs would look at it to be honest. European football maybe would help but you are In the exact same position as you were last season and ultimately it comes down to money Edited July 4 by Glen Scotia Edit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 7 minutes ago, Glen Scotia said: I'm not sure that's how players or other clubs would look at it to be honest. European football maybe would help but you are In the exact same position as you were last season and ultimately it comes down to money Money is less of an issue with loanees as the parent club have already committed to the salary and anything the other party offers is a contribution to that rather than going into the player's pocket as far as I understand it. It's not like we're in the market where even loans attract a fee. I stick by my belief that a successful (1st) season under our belt makes us a more attractive option than last year when we had done nothing to dispel the theory/myth we're a yo-yo club. I did say 'That's the theory' to end my post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 04/07/2024 at 08:47, hk blues said: Money is less of an issue with loanees as the parent club have already committed to the salary and anything the other party offers is a contribution to that rather than going into the player's pocket as far as I understand it. It's not like we're in the market where even loans attract a fee. That has an element of truth, but if your offering a lower percentage contribution for a loan player than another club there's not a chance the club which they are registered for is accepting your loan offer over the higher paying club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Scotia Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 30 minutes ago, parsforlife said: That has an element of truth, but if your offering a lower percentage contribution for a loan player than another club there's not a chance the club which they are registered for is accepting your loan offer over the higher paying club Everything comes down to money in this game, sadly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibbydoo Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Queens Park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 06/07/2024 at 03:42, parsforlife said: That has an element of truth, but if your offering a lower percentage contribution for a loan player than another club there's not a chance the club which they are registered for is accepting your loan offer over the higher paying club Yep, that's a given but to a lesser extent than with transfers when it's all about the money rather than it just being a contributing factor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoingThe42 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) On 05/07/2024 at 20:42, parsforlife said: That has an element of truth, but if your offering a lower percentage contribution for a loan player than another club there's not a chance the club which they are registered for is accepting your loan offer over the higher paying club I think this is the first time in my life I've had inside info about anything, but I've got a mate who is on the coaching staff with the Man City youth teams. He's talked about loans before, and for Premier League teams the percentage of wage covered or the fee doesn't really make any difference when it comes to players going to clubs in the Scottish Premiership. Whatever the sum, whether it's Dundee offering 25% or St Mirren offering to cover 40% it really makes no difference to anything. It's not going to have a material impact on a Premier League club's finances, so they'll probably look at the quality of the loan. It comes down to the level they want the player playing at, the style of play and how likely the player is to play in the position they want, then the relationship they have with that club/coach. So, in this case, Dundee having had a successful loan from Liverpool last year would make Liverpool more likely to be happy to see a player go there again. Makes sense, really. And if Dundee are up against Motherwell for a player, that success last year might tip it in their favour, even from another club. The impact is short-term, and probably ends when they change manager, but it is real. All things being equal, of course the money will talk. But if it's not a massive difference, then successful loans will get you more players. Edited July 7 by DoingThe42 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Highlander Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 28/06/2024 at 16:30, Sonam said: County ain't going down. This is not what happens... Don't jinx it man...!:) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 14 hours ago, DoingThe42 said: Whatever the sum, whether it's Dundee offering 25% or St Mirren offering to cover 40% it really makes no difference to anything. It's not going to have a material impact on a Premier League club's finances, so they'll probably look at the quality of the loan. That's my line of thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Scotia Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 15 hours ago, DoingThe42 said: for Premier League teams the percentage of wage covered or the fee doesn't really make any difference when it comes to players going to clubs in the Scottish Premiership. Whatever the sum, whether it's Dundee offering 25% or St Mirren offering to cover 40% it really makes no difference to anything. Im not denying what your friend has told you, however, Why would the likes Dundee and St. Mirren (as mentioned) make any wage contribution at all then if it makes no difference? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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