btb Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Quote At the Labour business conference Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, is presenting the recommendations from the party’s startup review. It was led by Jim O’Neill, the former Goldman Sachs chief economist who served as a Treasury minister in the Conservative government from 2015 to 2016 and who now sits as a crossbench peer. ToryLite? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) Labour, you say? "Because we’re not just a pro-business party, we’re a party that is proud of being pro-business.” Presumably ok with this, then "The government is set to announce what it describes as one of the biggest overhauls of financial regulation for more than three decades. It is expected to loosen rules on banks introduced after the financial crisis in 2008 when some banks faced collapse." Edited December 8, 2022 by The Skelpit Lug Just saw the bank stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Labour, you say? "Because we’re not just a pro-business party, we’re a party that is proud of being pro-business.” Presumably ok with this, then "The government is set to announce what it describes as one of the biggest overhauls of financial regulation for more than three decades. It is expected to loosen rules on banks introduced after the financial crisis in 2008 when some banks faced collapse." It’s widely accepted that the changes to the Glass-Steagal Act in the USA was a contributor to the crash in 2008, though there is disagreement about how major/minor. This appears to be a similar thing. When it all goes tits up it will be the taxpayers who will pay the price once again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Salt n Vinegar Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Slim Charles. said: There's nothing like consistency... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 You’ll what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Lord Falconer's MI6 son given a winnable seat to contest. Labour have fully transformed into the US Democrats now. It's Labour representing the Technocratic class Vs The Tories representing the capitalists class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Clown Job said: You’ll what? When I was in the gym the other day I heard a guy complaining he couldn't get an appointment at Ross Hall because they are taking too many NHS patients. We are through the looking glass. Wes's plan is classic neoliberalism. They don't want to create a real marketplace for private health care. It'll be like the trains and energy companies where profits are private, losses are covered by the state and the government can intervene to make sure that public anger never gets too out of hand. Edited December 10, 2022 by Detournement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Clown Job said: You’ll what? From the Royal College of Surgeons website: Quote Of those doctors undertaking private practice, the large majority also work in NHS consultant posts, doing their private work outside of and on top of their NHS commitments. A small proportion of doctors work in full-time private practice only. Is there actually spare capacity in the private sector, or just the same NHS doctors doing even more private work, a bit like better paid overtime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumobir Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 My ex is a doctor, so this is purely anecdotal, but a lot of the consultants she worked under (primarily in oncology)were part-time NHS doctors and worked private practice on the side. Private healthcare doesn’t support the NHS, it drains it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 10:45, Clown Job said: You’ll what? Tbf, this isn't especially controversial. What is questionable is how much genuine "spare capacity" there is in the private sector considering many of the surgeons who do these elective planned operations will be the same person in the NHS and private. Nor does it address post operative care. I'm sure it would have some effect but there just isn't some enormous magical bag of capacity, stuffed full of happy nurses and doctors, waiting for Labour to unleash them on NHS waiting lists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Labour and Brexit. I know, I know.... But... https://bylinetimes.com/2022/12/09/what-keir-starmer-isnt-telling-us-about-his-plan-for-a-better-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR3vDnAts2w9TRF1sSyGxinUXnw5ieey6YJJT04S7NsLHUph3y_UVxkK0OY Some interesting stuff here but the man suggestion, that Labour would edge closer to the EU but won't admit it and will keep putting out the MAKE BREXIT WORK mince to keep the Red Wall onside even though polls now suggest most people would support rejoining seems a little strained. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, KirkieRR said: Labour and Brexit. I know, I know.... But... https://bylinetimes.com/2022/12/09/what-keir-starmer-isnt-telling-us-about-his-plan-for-a-better-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR3vDnAts2w9TRF1sSyGxinUXnw5ieey6YJJT04S7NsLHUph3y_UVxkK0OY Some interesting stuff here but the man suggestion, that Labour would edge closer to the EU but won't admit it and will keep putting out the MAKE BREXIT WORK mince to keep the Red Wall onside even though polls now suggest most people would support rejoining seems a little strained. It’s a weird way for pro-EU Labour fans to try and win support: “Come on - vote for them - it’s just that they have to lie to us, you see!” Really makes you think, “Great. That Starmer - there’s a man you can trust.” -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, KirkieRR said: Labour and Brexit. I know, I know.... But... https://bylinetimes.com/2022/12/09/what-keir-starmer-isnt-telling-us-about-his-plan-for-a-better-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR3vDnAts2w9TRF1sSyGxinUXnw5ieey6YJJT04S7NsLHUph3y_UVxkK0OY Some interesting stuff here but the man suggestion, that Labour would edge closer to the EU but won't admit it and will keep putting out the MAKE BREXIT WORK mince to keep the Red Wall onside even though polls now suggest most people would support rejoining seems a little strained. In very much the same way they claim to be want to deliver massive, transformational constitutional reform, when we know these are just the same rotten magic beans they've been selling for years. He's totally boxed himself and the party into a corner. It's as much Labour's brexit now as it is the Tories, with all the unquestioning cult status that that brings. Clowns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Antlion said: It’s a weird way for pro-EU Labour fans to try and win support: “Come on - vote for them - it’s just that they have to lie to us, you see!” Really makes you think, “Great. That Starmer - there’s a man you can trust.” A great Labour election slogan: ”KEIR STARMER A MAN YOU KNOW YOU CANT TRUST”. Voters should feel comforted by the certainty. Edited December 11, 2022 by Granny Danger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: A great Labour election slogan: ”KEIR STARMER A MAN YOU KNOW YOU CANT TRUST”. Voters should feel comforted by the certainty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 For the life of me I honestly can't understand how the leader of the Labour Party, and his depute leader, can exist side by side in the same party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Quote As the Institute for Government conclude, “the review does not propose the devolution of significant new powers to Scotland or Wales1.” ‘I USED to support independence, but now Labour has committed to holding a consultation on updating the Scottish Government’s capital borrowing ceiling, I’ve changed my mind.” It doesn’t exactly ring true, does it? Let’s take another shot: “I voted Yes, but now that Leeds is getting a directly elected mayor, I’m having second thoughts.” Nope. A third go: “The big thing that made a difference for me was the idea that Holyrood should be consulted by the UK Government in relation to the minimum wage. That’s a game-changer.” Nope, nope, nope. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: ‘I USED to support independence, but now Labour has committed to holding a consultation on updating the Scottish Government’s capital borrowing ceiling, I’ve changed my mind.” It doesn’t exactly ring true, does it? Let’s take another shot: “I voted Yes, but now that Leeds is getting a directly elected mayor, I’m having second thoughts.” Nope. A third go: “The big thing that made a difference for me was the idea that Holyrood should be consulted by the UK Government in relation to the minimum wage. That’s a game-changer.” Nope, nope, nope. Nothing ever changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 How deluded is this guy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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