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1 hour ago, Detournement said:

It doesn't matter which party wins. What matters is the dominant ideology and all the parties have that locked in now. 

The Labour right understand this perfectly. 

The Labour Right also want to win when they're in charge. Sometimes (debatably) being good at something (stage managing their internal democracy or wrecking) doesn't mean they're good at everything else. 

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8 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

The Labour Right also want to win when they're in charge. Sometimes (debatably) being good at something (stage managing their internal democracy or wrecking) doesn't mean they're good at everything else. 

Agree to disagree. Controlling the Overton window then sailing off into the sunset with a few lucrative jobs a la Tom Watson seems to be the aim of most of them.

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The Labour Party conference has rejected PR in favour of keeping FPTP.  Absolutely horrendous decision that shows the undemocratic dinosaur attitude of the unions.  CLPs overwhelmingly in favour, unions largely opposed.

 

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Laughing because this is exactly what Dunt and others like him wanted.

It really takes a special type of credulous moron to be continually surprised like a toddler playing peek-a-boo, that a. The Tories are in fact utter c***s and b. The Labour right have absolutely nothing to offer apart from purging the left and trying to look hard with crackdowns, like a poundland version of the Tories.

The British liberal press, never knowingly wallet inspected.

 

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Came on to actually post this, before Dunt's stupidity distracted me.

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Given that we are an island of curtain twitching, snivelling grasses, this might actually go down well with voters.

'Next generation neighbourhood watch' is heavy Black Mirror vibes though. Not long until an Amazon Prime robotic dog rips me to shreds for walking up the wrong street after it identifies that I couldn't afford any of the houses there.

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58 minutes ago, Namond Brice said:

Came on to actually post this, before Dunt's stupidity distracted me.

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Given that we are an island of curtain twitching, snivelling grasses, this might actually go down well with voters.

'Next generation neighbourhood watch' is heavy Black Mirror vibes though. Not long until an Amazon Prime robotic dog rips me to shreds for walking up the wrong street after it identifies that I couldn't afford any of the houses there.

Finally he wants to nationalise something!

Unfortunately it's the Nextdoor app. 

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3 hours ago, Namond Brice said:

Came on to actually post this, before Dunt's stupidity distracted me.

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Given that we are an island of curtain twitching, snivelling grasses, this might actually go down well with voters.

'Next generation neighbourhood watch' is heavy Black Mirror vibes though. Not long until an Amazon Prime robotic dog rips me to shreds for walking up the wrong street after it identifies that I couldn't afford any of the houses there.

I remember when Jack Straw and David Blunkett were Home Secretary being deeply concerned about about how they wanted to increase state surveillance powers and reduce peoples privacy and freedom etc. I see things have not really changed.

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It's worth bearing in mind that in the 2015 election George Osborne pledged that the minimum wage would be £9 by 2020 (obviously it wasn't and isn't but it wasn't unrealistic with a Remain vote and a full Cameron second term).

The fact that Starmer will only beat that by a quid for the year 2025 at a time when inflation is starting to climb just shows that he and the likes of Reeves are completely compromised. They are in place to destroy the party and the wider labour movement. 

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You have to admire Starmer’s strategy, policies that are unlikely to win back former ‘Red Wall’ voters whilst alienating left-of-centre Labour activists and voters.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist but there’s as much chance of him being a Tory plant as there is of him being just a beige, incompetent b*****d.

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