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3 hours ago, Freedom Farter said:

And there it is. The arch villain himself confirmed.

I think that’s the first one of these ‘Congratulations’ tweets that Labour have put out that I’ve seen without the candidate’s photo. Can’t think why for the life of me. 
 

 

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I cannot see the horrendous situation in Gaza and the West Bank having moved further on by early July by which time  a Labour government seems almost inevitable.

Starmer might have an increased number of pro-Israel sycophants amongst his Parliamentary group but I can see enormous pressure to actively support a ceasefire being applied from the wider Labour movement.  I can see him taking a similar line to Biden and being indistinguishable from the existing Tory government when it comes to real action.

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14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I cannot see the horrendous situation in Gaza and the West Bank having moved further on by early July by which time  a Labour government seems almost inevitable.

Starmer might have an increased number of pro-Israel sycophants amongst his Parliamentary group but I can see enormous pressure to actively support a ceasefire being applied from the wider Labour movement.  I can see him taking a similar line to Biden and being indistinguishable from the existing Tory government when it comes to real action.

He already does. 

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9 minutes ago, JS_FFC said:

He already does. 

Active support means refusing to supply arms or any other sort of military related aid.  He can only do that once he becomes PM.

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55 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Active support means refusing to supply arms or any other sort of military related aid.  He can only do that once he becomes PM.

Fair point. Can’t see that happening.

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9 hours ago, Dunning1874 said:

The self-declared Zionist Shitlord, Luke Nukem himself.

It's hard not to sound like you're indulging in some rancid conspiracy theory when you say a member of Labour's NEC and now parliamentary candidate is literally a paid Israel lobbyist, and yet it is entirely true. His actual job is the director of We Believe in Israel.

A man who indulged in Alex Jones level conspiracies about footage of war crimes in Gaza being created by crisis actors. A man who argued in favour of arm sales to Saudi Arabia for the explicit purpose of bombing Yemen, because it was apparently necessary to stop Iran. A man who believes in using Trident as a warning shot. A man who has launched an antisemitic purge of the Labour membership against Jews who don't agree with his views on Israel, despite not being Jewish himself. An overt and unrepentant racist: this is who Starmer's Labour are.

On the plus side, this news has led to people sharing his purity test that all Labour members should have to pass again.

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The problem is that the vast bulk of the electorate don't know and probably don't care about these things, sad though that is.

And having closely observed Labour at the local level here for many years they tend to avoid anything of any gravity, and concentrate on the local and personal, very much the 'how's your mother keeping' type of banality.  And all of it shot through with anti-SNP sentiment and a religious dog-whistle.

 

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Should also be remembered that Labour have candidates who’ve openly called for all criminal gangs to be sent to Scotland as punishment or are Luke Akehurst.

It’s a pretty obvious attempt to purge any remotely left wing voices within the movement. 

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This is the tweet with that Jon Stewart clip Faiza Shaheen has been deselected for liking.

Mentions the words "Israel lobby" therefore is automatically antisemitic, and a non-white Muslim woman is barred from standing. On the same day that Labour impose a candidate on another constituency who is literally an Israel lobbyist.

About Labour centrally imposing candidates without CLPs getting a say, by the way:

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Meanwhile, apparently there's another deselection attempt underway against Apsana Begum, based on a letter from "local party members". You could at face value think fine, that's CLP members exercising their democratic voice and not NEC meddling, but who might these local party members be?

Begum was on trial for fraud a few years ago over accusations she had submitted false information when applying for social housing, where she was found not guilty of all charges. This is because those charges were fabricated bullshit, brought by Tower Hamlets Council at the behest of then Mayor David Biggs after a complaint by a concerned council employee. That council employee just happened to be the brother in law of Labour councillor Ehtasham Haque - Begum's ex-husband. Begum's ex-husband who she'd left to escape his domestic abuse, Begum's ex-husband who was a factional ally of David Biggs and as a councillor had many connections in the CLP.

So after Begum's acquittal when the local Labour Party apparatus swung behind her abusive ex-husband in an attempt to destroy her and put her in prison out of spite, they then moved on to attempts to deselect her. The Labour Party have the power to obstruct the process for a trigger ballot that stops a sitting candidate automatically being put forward again - for example Corbyn did this to stop Ellie Reeves (not exactly a factional ally) facing deselection because she was pregnant. Despite an advocate from a charity dealing with domestic abuse contacting Starmer directly to describe the Labour Party's treatment of Begum as a "further extension of the abuse that she has already endured", they refused to intervene.

Now a letter has gone to the NEC in the last month asking them to intervene to block Begum from standing. One of the reasons given was her "lack of visibility and productivity" which may have had something to do with the fact she was off sick for months after the campaign of harassment, which included her address being shared.

If Britain had a remotely responsible media, the Labour Party's treatment of Begum would have been front page news for months and a resigning matter for Starmer. However she's a hijabi Muslim, she's a woman and worst of all she's left-wing, so no one gives a shit and this institutionally Islamophobic party can continue to facilitate her abuse.

It would be ridiculous to say there's a hierarchy of racism here, of course. Nothing in the Forde Report has any bearing on this.

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31 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said:

I'm old enough to remember when conflating Israel and British Jews was considered an act of overt anti-Semitism.

 

Ah, Lee Harpin, columnist for the far right Jewish Chronicle. It's ran by long-time editor and current "senior advisor" Stephen Pollard who supports NHS privatisation, austerity, Brexit, neoconservatism and Rupert Murdoch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Pollard

 

Similarly, the complaint against Shaheen was lodged by the Jewish Labour Movement. Its parliamentary chair is Margaret Hodge. She dismissed complaints about child sex abuse while a councillor, flirted with the BNP once an MP and has multiple times been found using offshore tax havens to stash some of her huge inherited wealth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge

 

Edit: Harpin was a Mirror phone hacker (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/reporter-blackmailed-the-mirror-as-it-tried-to-cover-up-phone-hacking-court-told).

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He spews that much far right bile that even despite those thousands of deleted tweets in the last few days, he's still missed some.

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Labour Friends of collaborating with the Freikorps to murder Jewish socialists.

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Nakba denial.

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Erm...

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How is it that the slightest perceived word out of place about Jews/Israel and your persona non grata, yet other unhinged bigots are not only excused but endorsed?

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