Jinky67 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 59 minutes ago, AJF said: Indeed. I don’t think anyone disputes the fact that Rangers started the issue regarding away allocations and they’ve been rightly criticised for it. With that being said, for the past two seasons it has been entirely Celtic’s choice to lock fans out altogether. These two things can simultaneously both be true and each deserves criticism. ETA: also, let’s try and not get personal, folks Fan safety isn’t a choice, it’s a responsibility. A responsibility Rangers don’t appear to be interested in or motivated to do anything about and that’s because it suits them better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Fan safety isn’t a choice, it’s a responsibility. A responsibility Rangers don’t appear to be interested in or motivated to do anything about and that’s because it suits them better. So agreeing to a 5% away allocation with additional security measures in place is them not being interested in fan safety? Ah. And why would the status quo of no away fans suit us? Edited September 5 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AJF said: So agreeing to a 5% away allocation with additional security measures in place is them not being interested in fan safety? Ah. And why would the status quo of no away fans suit us? But what have they actually done? And don’t say apply for planning as that’s only done as a result of being called out, give me something tangible. Maybe you could share those “other steps” that you mentioned before? Rangers say a lot of things, most of it is utter pish and just lip service that even you lot don’t believe yet now on this issue you hang on their every word as if it’s gospel? Who are you trying to kid? Edited September 5 by Jinky67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 28 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Rodgers says a lot of things, most of it is utter pish and just lip service that even you lot don’t believe FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 minutes ago, AJF said: FTFY I guess this is what happens when your argument collapses like a house of cards, you start to post like Benny. Maybe we can play again someday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Jinky67 said: I guess this is what happens when your argument collapses like a house of cards, you start to post like Benny. Maybe we can play again someday Benny has had your number for years so that’s a compliment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooooft. Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Jinky67 said: you start to post like Benny. 6 minutes ago, AJF said: that’s a compliment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 13 minutes ago, AJF said: Benny has had your number for years so that’s a compliment I guess it really is true that cannot fashion a wit out of two half wits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 6 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: I guess it really is true that cannot fashion a wit out of two half wits. Nevermind about that, celtics being criticised on the Scotland/Poland thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 35 minutes ago, bennett said: Nevermind about that, celtics being criticised on the Scotland/Poland thread. They didn’t enjoy Tony Ralstons assist or was that your comment not aging very well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) On 04/09/2024 at 20:09, Jinky67 said: You didn’t answer the question. You agree the statement is nonsense yes? How long do you think it takes to get plans drawn up and all the paperwork filled out for a planning application to be submitted. Especially if discussions were taken g place with the planning authority? It is entirely possible (probably) that Rangers were already working on the planning when they made the statement on the 14th August On 05/09/2024 at 16:39, Jinky67 said: No Benny we do when it is right to do. Just on this occasion it's hard to be critical of the club managing a situation that has been put upon us by another clubs pettiness, selfishness and greed which obviously doesn't suit your narrative but that's your issue. Not sure why you have an interest in the topic considering you are probably the least impacted person on the thread Celtic are entirely at fault over the allocation for Celtic Park. I find myself in the really difficult position of siding with Rangers in this instance but there really isn't an arguement to be made for Celtic's actions. In the same way as there wasn't for Ranger's initial restrictions on away fans. Edited September 11 by strichener 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, strichener said: How long do you think it takes to get plans drawn up and all the paperwork filled out for a planning application to be submitted. Especially if discussions were taken g place with the planning authority? It is entirely possible (probably) that Rangers were already working on the planning when they made the statement on the 14th August Celtic are entirely at fault over the allocation for Celtic Park. I find myself in the really difficult position of siding with Rangers in this instance but there really isn't an arguement to be made for Celtic's actions. In the same way as there wasn't for Ranger's initial restrictions on away fans. Celtic applied back in Feb, days after an agreement was reached and a month before the agreement was made public. Amazing what can be done when motivated. It then took a month for it to be approved and 5 months to complete the works so 6 months from start to finish. Rangers believe they can do all of that in 4 months with the other construction issues ongoing. Feel free to side with Rangers, that’s your choice if you genuinely think they can pull that off. Edited September 11 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jinky67 said: Celtic applied back in Feb, days after an agreement was reached and a month before the agreement was made public. Amazing what can be done when motivated. It then took a month for it to be approved and 5 months to complete the works so 6 months from start to finish. Rangers believe they can do all of that in 4 months with the other construction issues ongoing. Feel free to side with Rangers, that’s your choice if you genuinely think they can pull that off. This isn’t quite accurate if you are comparing like for like. It may have taken Celtic 5 months to complete work but only because they were carrying out groundwork to make changes to their stadium access/stairways. Rangers don’t have the need to do this as far as I believe. Their application is only to install the removable safety netting. Celtic’s equivalent application for the safety netting was made at the end of March, which is a very similar timescale as to when Rangers submitted theirs for the January fixture at Ibrox. Edited September 12 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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