Ned Nederlander Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Any views? Seems perfectly reasonable to me - especially with the baby monitors . Things are certainly different these days , I collected Ned Jnr from Nursery earlier as you would expect but I'll also collect my seven year old daughter from school later ... a journey I made on my own when I was five ! And when our kids are in bed the doors are locked , it's something we started doing after that little girl was snatched from her bath last year ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBud Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 And when our kids are in bed the doors are locked , it's something we started doing after that little girl was snatched from her bath last year ! Don't you worry about there being a fire? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Don't you worry about there being a fire? The key's are still in the locks ... our doors don't have any windows that someone could smash and then use the keys You've hit on a subject close to my heart though , I sometimes leave for work just after 5am and need to remove the key from the inside before I can lock the door from the outside ... If I can't find a second key I'd never take the 'original' one thinking Mrs Ned could just use the back door , I post they key back through (Does that make sense ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBud Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) The key's are still in the locks ... our doors don't have any windows that someone could smash and then use the keys You've hit on a subject close to my heart though , I sometimes leave for work just after 5am and need to remove the key from the inside before I can lock the door from the outside ... If I can't find a second key I'd never take the 'original' one thinking Mrs Ned could just use the back door , I post they key back through (Does that make sense ) Kinda Doesn't leaving the keys in the lock, make the lock redundant though (In the sense that the local paedophile only has to turn the key to steal your children) Edited May 10, 2007 by AndyBud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half A Person Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Kinda Doesn't leaving the keys in the lock, make the lock redundant though (In the sense that the local paedophile only has to turn the key to steal your children) He doesn't leave the key in the door on the outside! f**k's sake! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBud Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 He doesn't leave the key in the door on the outside!f**k's sake! Maybe you want to read the post again....FYI, pay particular attention to Ned's first sentence... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half A Person Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I don't get how leaving a key on the inside of a door would make a lock redundant. Am I being dense? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I don't get how leaving a key on the inside of a door would make a lock redundant. Am I being dense? No, I don't get what hes saying either! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBud Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I don't get how leaving a key on the inside of a door would make a lock redundant. Am I being dense? This would be because I'm thinking of the bedrooms doors... I think I need to go lie down! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 This case has made me & my wife think. We have a 7 year old boy and a 2 year old girl. I can remember us staying up in Lochgoilhead when he was 2 with some friends. We rented 2 chalets with 2 families in each with the kids. They were next to each other. In evenings, after the kids had gone to bed, the adults would all sit in one of the chalets and leave their kids asleep in the other. We'd have the children radio listening devices on and someone would go back to check on them every 20 mins - and anytime we heard any noise on the radios.Now that was 8 adults - and we all thought that what we were doing was perfectly safe. Looking at the Madeleine McCann story.... maybe not. Any views? I'm interested in where folk draw the line as there seem to be alot of differing views (I'm not saying anyone of them is wrong - each to their own). The above seems 'sensible' (haha) enough to me, especially with the baby monitor and the fact that one of the kids is older. I felt less comfortable reading Div's comment yesterday about leaving his 3 year old and nipping into his neighbours for a shandy (and taking the listening device), and while I can't exactly see something wrong with it, it's not something I would feel comfortable doing myself. Me and my younger sister also stayed in the room by ourselves on holiday while m&d nipped down to the bar, but we were probably about 10 & 8 by then - old enough to shout for help if anything happened, and to know where to find them if an emergency arose. I feel more uncomfortable about the Maddy case as I feel the kids were too young to be left on their own - yes the parents were only 60 yds away and were checking every 20 minutes - but to a small child who wakes up after a bad dream in a strange room 20 minutes can be a very long and upsetting time. And yes - before anyone asks - I have been on holiday with a 3 year old - and toted a sleeping tot around in the buggy when we went out to eat - just like I believe someone mentioned earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I saw another shocking example of bad parenting this morning... shameful stuff. Doc1.doc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) I saw another shocking example of bad parenting this morning... shameful stuff. It is! Before you know it, they'll be using there kids to help with crimes like this! edit cos I'm a drongo picture.bmp Edited May 10, 2007 by skinnyjean 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 It is! Before you know it, they'll be using there kids to help with crimes like this!edit cos I'm a drongo LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain St. Sensible Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I felt less comfortable reading Div's comment yesterday about leaving his 3 year old and nipping into his neighbours for a shandy (and taking the listening device), and while I can't exactly see something wrong with it, it's not something I would feel comfortable doing myself. We actually did sat in the neighbours back garden for a couple of drinks one night while our kid was in bed, a bit like Div. I actually lived on the same street as Div - and the houses are very close to each other. It makes you feel safe. WE also only had a small step over fence at the time - it didn't really seem any different from sitting in our own back garden. The one thing I hope is that the kid has been snatched by a woman who wants her own kid - or something like that - and is looking after her. I think its unlikely however......... We have actually have a 3 year old girl as well..... and her name is Madeleine..... This whole thing really makes you sick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 We actually did sat in the neighbours back garden for a couple of drinks one night while our kid was in bed, a bit like Div.I actually lived on the same street as Div - and the houses are very close to each other. It makes you feel safe. WE also only had a small step over fence at the time - it didn't really seem any different from sitting in our own back garden. I don't have a problem with that Captain. The bit that Div said that sort of un-nerved me was that it was a 'neighbour across the road' and that they were actually inside the house. I don't actually think he's doing anything wrong - just that I wouldn't be comfortable with it myself. P.S. - Div no longer lives there (although by all accounts it's possibly quieter where he is now) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reina Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 My first reaction was that there is no way I'd leave my kids on their own to be honest. Having said that, I don't think anyone can blame the parents for this. It's a disgustingly depressing situation Agree with that 100% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 That poor mother is broken, the T.V footage of her going to the vigial yesterday was heartbreaking. I don't think they will see their little girl again now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 Some guy has put up a million pound reward for her safe return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain St. Sensible Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 P.S. - Div no longer lives there (although by all accounts it's possibly quieter where he is now) His new place is kinda similar - houses close together - just bigger and more expensive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 His new place is kinda similar - houses close together - just bigger and more expensive. So THAT's what he's done with all our P&B Donations! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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