Savage Henry Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 13 hours ago, Jaggy Snake said: Should never have needed reviewed. They may as well say on field referees no longer give red cards. This is right. That should have been a straight red which the officials could have decided on the field. Blatant. I guess the default is to give yellows and shift the burden - and speed up the game. But I quite like the deliberation process - it’s refereeing out in the open. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: This is right. That should have been a straight red which the officials could have decided on the field. Blatant. I guess the default is to give yellows and shift the burden - and speed up the game. But I quite like the deliberation process - it’s refereeing out in the open. That's effectively what the protocol is. If the ref sees it live right in front of him, he'll give a red. Anything that requires TMO intervention is a yellow with a bunker review. As much as Fat Billy's effort yesterday was a clear red on the first replay, the fact it wasn't clear to the officials live meant he couldn't show the red card there and then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just heard Miotti is away to France, a couple of months after signing a new contract. Glasgow seemingly not going to bring anyone else in at this point, and will run with Thomson and Jordan with Weir and however's in the academy (is Toonies son still there?). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Have any of those off field reviews actually not been upgraded to red yet? Each of Fagerson, Farrell and Vunipola were all upgraded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Donathan said: Have any of those off field reviews actually not been upgraded to red yet? Each of Fagerson, Farrell and Vunipola were all upgraded. Don't think so. There were plenty in Super Rugby that remained as a yellow though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: Don't think so. There were plenty in Super Rugby that remained as a yellow though Which suggests that Test level refs are using it when they're pretty sure it's red and just want someone to check their working While in Super Rugby they're using it for things that they think are probably just yellow but someone else may as well have a quick check just in case But it's a small sample so it might not mean anything 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Which suggests that Test level refs are using it when they're pretty sure it's red and just want someone to check their working While in Super Rugby they're using it for things that they think are probably just yellow but someone else may as well have a quick check just in case But it's a small sample so it might not mean anything There were at least 2 over the weekend that went to bunker review and remained a yellow. The one in the wales game I didnt even think it was a yellow as the player was already being tackled and fell into his shoulder and he was already fairly low 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 29 minutes ago, honestly united said: There were at least 2 over the weekend that went to bunker review and remained a yellow. The one in the wales game I didnt even think it was a yellow as the player was already being tackled and fell into his shoulder and he was already fairly low Well I can discard that hypothesis in response to more data then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoramus Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I know referees are sometimes a touchy subject on this thread, but appointments for the RWC pools are up: SA v Scotland - Angus Gardner Scotland v Tonga - Karl Dickson Scotland v Romania - Wayne Barnes Ireland v Scotland - Nic Berry Jaco Peyper has the opening game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) No Matt Carley is a huge bonus, as is no Reynal We had Nic Berry for the 2nd France game, I thought he was ok (was he?) Angus Gardner for SA, not sure if that is good or bad Edit to add Gardner did the Italy game is 6Nations so will be re-watching that also Edited August 22, 2023 by honestly united 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Karl Dickson should be nowhere near the RWC refereeing panel. I’d be tempted to prevent him attending any of the games as a spectator as well tbqhwy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, honestly united said: No Matt Carley is a huge bonus, as is no Reynal We had Nic Berry for the 2nd France game, I thought he was ok (was he?) Angus Gardner for SA, not sure if that is good or bad Edit to add Gardner did the Italy game is 6Nations so will be re-watching that also I thought Berry was pretty bad in the second France game, but in a "bad for both teams" kind of way. 24 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Karl Dickson should be nowhere near the RWC refereeing panel. I’d be tempted to prevent him attending any of the games as a spectator as well tbqhwy The one thing about Dickson is that I'm pretty sure he's a big team ref who will happily f**k over the Tongans all day because he assumes it's all their fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I quite like Nic Berry. Not a great ref but not one to be easy swayed by just giving the big team the benefit of the doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Farrell gets 4 weeks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66581854 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 No surprise. Lucky it's 4 games with an Ireland friendly included. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 11 hours ago, flyingscot said: No surprise. Lucky it's 4 games with an Ireland friendly included. Vunipola on 2 games if he goes to tackling school https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66585194 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 16 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: I quite like Nic Berry. Not a great ref but not one to be easy swayed by just giving the big team the benefit of the doubt. Thought he was good in Heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensible Soccer🏴 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Farrell gets 4 weeks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66581854 That's him missing their 1st two matches of the WC, the Pumas and Japan. They could be pretty tricky games for them in group D. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Sensible Soccer said: That's him missing their 1st two matches of the WC, the Pumas and Japan. They could be pretty tricky games for them in group D. Probably better without him. Might try and play some rugby. Not sure who they'll pick at 8 mind you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Probably better without him. Might try and play some rugby. Not sure who they'll pick at 8 mind you. Lewis Ludlam presumably. But Borthwick said relying on Vunipola wasn't a risk... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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