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21 minutes ago, The Other Foot said:

To be fair, this is the same man who used to write anti-Semitic pamphlets and posted such gems as this:

 

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Nobody is wrong 100% of their lives, I think he went properly deranged when Glen Greenwald started working for him. 

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11 minutes ago, Fullerene said:

I recall talking to some Americans who say that American Jews are often embarrassed by what Israel does but it is Evangelical Christians who support Israel more because some book says the Jews should be there and if some "not-chosen ones" come to harm then that is unfortunate but maybe part of the master plan.

The same book has no mention of Vietnam, Berlin or Northern Ireland.

If there was any truth in this then it might explain why nobody is rushing to solve the situation.

They're betting on Armageddon kicking off in Israel and they'll be wafted off to heaven while all the Jews, Muslims and Liberals burn in God's wrath. 

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I guess the responsibility for the hospital rocket/missile has sucked all the attention and energy away from the actual indiscriminate bombing and ongoing targeting of civilians, so great job all round tbh.

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20 minutes ago, Fullerene said:

I recall talking to some Americans who say that American Jews are often embarrassed by what Israel does but it is Evangelical Christians who support Israel more because some book says the Jews should be there and if some "not-chosen ones" come to harm then that is unfortunate but maybe part of the master plan.

The same book has no mention of Vietnam, Berlin or Northern Ireland.

If there was any truth in this then it might explain why nobody is rushing to solve the situation.

Don’t the Evangelical Christians believe that Jews and their homeland is integral to the rapture?

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13 hours ago, The Moonster said:

Israel are b*****ds. They are bombing the West Bank and other civilians, they are not targeting Hamas. This is not the same as calling Jewish people b*****ds. It's also not an excuse for Hamas to carry out what they did. Ram your anti-semetic pish up your arse along with your "downvote me coz am an edgelord c**t" pish. 

Sorry to correct you but it is the Israeli government who are the b*****ds.

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10 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

Ehhh, about half of all Israelis didn't vote for Netanyahu or his allies. Not sure what you expect them to do tbh.

I’m not just talking about the current government. Palestinians have faced similar treatment long before Netanyahu was elected. Those protests earlier this year were about Israelis losing political rights. I can’t recall any protests of a similar size about Palestinians having less human rights than Israelis.

As for what Israelis could do, they could do a lot more to put pressure on the government when it comes to the treatment of Palestinians. They could take actions such as refusing to do military service en masse or boycott goods made in the West Bank settlements. 

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4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Sorry to correct you but it is the Israeli government who are the b*****ds.

Someone else picked up on that too yet surely now is not the time for policing folk on it as Israelis are not suffering under collective punishment. Instead they're enjoying collective solidarity. The most powerful man in the world just hugged their prime minister Netanyahu, well he's supposedly the worst of the lot yet he's getting hugs. Our taxes have paid for our PM to be over there just now doing similar. USA just vetoed a UN resolution to allow greater humanitarian aid into Gaza and UK abstained on the vote.

Little of this reflexive defensiveness is apparent when the Palestinians are discussed.  Al-Qassam Brigades become Hamas who become Gazans who become Palestinians. It all elides into one, no scolding happens over failures to differentiate there, and these folk in the ghetto get collectively punished. Deprived of drinking water, sanitation, electricity, food, and bombed. Lives lost, homes destroyed, communities ripped apart and any fledgling prosperity wiped out yet again.

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1 hour ago, Freedom Farter said:

Someone else picked up on that too yet surely now is not the time for policing folk on it as Israelis are not suffering under collective punishment. Instead they're enjoying collective solidarity. The most powerful man in the world just hugged their prime minister Netanyahu, well he's supposedly the worst of the lot yet he's getting hugs. Our taxes have paid for our PM to be over there just now doing similar. USA just vetoed a UN resolution to allow greater humanitarian aid into Gaza and UK abstained on the vote.

Little of this reflexive defensiveness is apparent when the Palestinians are discussed.  Al-Qassam Brigades become Hamas who become Gazans who become Palestinians. It all elides into one, no scolding happens over failures to differentiate there, and these folk in the ghetto get collectively punished. Deprived of drinking water, sanitation, electricity, food, and bombed. Lives lost, homes destroyed, communities ripped apart and any fledgling prosperity wiped out yet again.

Yes and for good reason.

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5 minutes ago, The Golden God said:

Maybe I am being stupid, but if I was on the tele going on and on about how Israel needs support and acting like the whole country is the modern Battle of Stalingrad, I wouldn’t be going there for fucking photo opps. Biden and Sunak are a pair of utter c***s. Baddiel is one too. 

I wonder if Baddiel just feels he has to double down on the 'criticising the Israeli government is antisemitism' because he is simply in too deep now. He accepts actions done by Israel that he'd write a comedy show about if the Tories had done them.

Think this doubling down happens with prominent celebrity terfs as well. 

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