Freedom Farter Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) 4 hours ago, Granny Danger said: The killing of innocent Israeli children is sad and tragic but the coverage by the MSM of this relatively small number of casualties in an occupied territory compared to the mass slaughter of Palestinian children tells you all you need to know about the relative value placed on the two groups. No Israelis were killed. Occupied Syrian Druze were killed. Israel occupies the Golan Heights, including Majdal Shams. Israel also plonked a military base near to Majdal Shams putting the town in harm's way. Edited July 28 by Freedom Farter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Clip of a father identifying by her clothing, his daughter's dismembered and beheaded corpse. I viewed it because I want to know the full reality of events but only click after consideration for how it may affect you. Musk works with the ADL et al to censor content showing Israel's crimes so the clip will soon be removed from the site. https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1817588489795342820#m 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 21 hours ago, Granny Danger said: The killing of innocent Israeli children is sad and tragic but Everybody else here starting off reading that: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 13 hours ago, Freedom Farter said: Clip of a father identifying by her clothing, his daughter's dismembered and beheaded corpse. I viewed it because I want to know the full reality of events but only click after consideration for how it may affect you. Musk works with the ADL et al to censor content showing Israel's crimes so the clip will soon be removed from the site. https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1817588489795342820#m Horrific. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Anyone who followed the changes in Russian society after Russia's full invasion of Ukraine won't be too surprised by this. When a war fever or war hysteria grips a society, the politics just becomes a dogfight between increasingly extreme factions. The accusation is always that "you're not being pro-war enough" and it has a cumulative effect, constantly ramping up. That's how things get to this point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Hezbollah and others are living in a fantasy land where Israel disappears. An incredibly destructive belief system they feed to Palestinians. Of course, as is the way with things there, disturbing trends are appearing in Israeli military at base level not just leadership https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/18/national-religious-recruits-challenge-values-of-idf-secular-elite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 18 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: Anyone who followed the changes in Russian society after Russia's full invasion of Ukraine won't be too surprised by this. When a war fever or war hysteria grips a society, the politics just becomes a dogfight between increasingly extreme factions. The accusation is always that "you're not being pro-war enough" and it has a cumulative effect, constantly ramping up. That's how things get to this point. Im sure loads of people adequately remember folk just shouting 9/11 at each other louder and louder so yeah. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 battalions redeployed from Gaza to try and quash the potential civil war over criminalising rape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 hours ago, Freedom Farter said: Anyone who followed the changes in Russian society after Russia's full invasion of Ukraine won't be too surprised by this. When a war fever or war hysteria grips a society, the politics just becomes a dogfight between increasingly extreme factions. The accusation is always that "you're not being pro-war enough" and it has a cumulative effect, constantly ramping up. That's how things get to this point. Of course our politicians would be criticising acts such as this if they were being carried out by Russian soldiers. I have a funny feeling they’ll be keeping their heads down on this though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 13 hours ago, Freedom Farter said: Anyone who followed the changes in Russian society after Russia's full invasion of Ukraine won't be too surprised by this. When a war fever or war hysteria grips a society, the politics just becomes a dogfight between increasingly extreme factions. The accusation is always that "you're not being pro-war enough" and it has a cumulative effect, constantly ramping up. That's how things get to this point. We're really seeing peak levels of "every accusation is a confession" in Israeli society now and while the dehumanisation has undoubtedly intensified since October, the sexual abuse of Palestinians has been endemic for decades. Quite incredible though that the mere idea of "soldiers who have unquestionably raped a detainee will be arrested and may face a ridiculously weak slap on the wrist" is enough for riots to start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 An "Are We the Baddies?" moment for this Israeli. Not before time but given the extreme propaganda they're subjected to from childhood, I'll take it. (If you don't have Twitter: https://nitter.poast.org/academic_la/status/1818044188673589733#m). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: An "Are We the Baddies?" moment for this Israeli. Not before time but given the extreme propaganda they're subjected to from childhood, I'll take it. (If you don't have Twitter: https://nitter.poast.org/academic_la/status/1818044188673589733#m). This morons opinion clearly hasn’t changed a lot. Wtf does he mean it wasn’t meant to make Israel look bad? As for the “intended to make it better” line, he’ll be waiting a long time. What we are currently witnessing is zionism in action. What is happening in Gaza right now is exactly what the state of Israel was created to do. David Ben-Gurion himself said this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManBearPig Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, MazzyStar said: This morons opinion clearly hasn’t changed a lot. Wtf does he mean it wasn’t meant to make Israel look bad? As for the “intended to make it better” line, he’ll be waiting a long time. What we are currently witnessing is zionism in action. What is happening in Gaza right now is exactly what the state of Israel was created to do. David Ben-Gurion himself said this. "My post; which shows how poisonous zionism can be, has been picked up by anti-zionists for some reason." I genuinely don't think a single thought passes through these c***s heads before they say things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 There was a bit more to this tweet where he was warning about the risk of war between Israel and Iran but I cropped that out as its not as immediately relevant. What he puts here is useful analysis on why exactly Israel did this now (its a fairly safe assumption it was Israel). Haniyeh was not a militant. He was leader of the political wing of Hamas and therefore very much "above ground" and visible. That means Israel could've assassinated him in this manner at any time but they chose this particular moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 hours ago, Freedom Farter said: There was a bit more to this tweet where he was warning about the risk of war between Israel and Iran but I cropped that out as its not as immediately relevant. What he puts here is useful analysis on why exactly Israel did this now (its a fairly safe assumption it was Israel). Haniyeh was not a militant. He was leader of the political wing of Hamas and therefore very much "above ground" and visible. That means Israel could've assassinated him in this manner at any time but they chose this particular moment. I don't recall seeing mentions of a 'signal from Kamla Harris'...., though the US has been studiously very quiet recently. What I see is a country and society that is rotting from within, and very publically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 39 minutes ago, beefybake said: I don't recall seeing mentions of a 'signal from Kamla Harris'...., though the US has been studiously very quiet recently. What I see is a country and society that is rotting from within, and very publically. You're right, I don't know why Parsi has suggested that Harris will be more lenient than Biden ("not as unforgiving"). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Netanyahu barbecued Haniyeh so he can finish the war in Gaza before the November elections. Harris won't stand up to the pro-Israel lobby and not a single protestor will give a f**k about a war with Iran or Lebanon in 2025. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Seems it wasn't an airstrike that killed the Hamas guy, it was a bomb smuggled into his room months ago. Went off at 2am killing him and his bodyguard. https://www.timesofisrael.com/nyt-haniyeh-was-killed-by-explosive-smuggled-into-tehran-guesthouse-two-months-ago/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Seems it wasn't an airstrike that killed the Hamas guy, it was a bomb smuggled into his room months ago. Went off at 2am killing him and his bodyguard. https://www.timesofisrael.com/nyt-haniyeh-was-killed-by-explosive-smuggled-into-tehran-guesthouse-two-months-ago/ Hamas need to learn to do security sweeps more often. and America need to learn that they are being played. Why wait 2 months if not to stop any suggestions of a cease fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 38 minutes ago, 101 said: Hamas need to learn to do security sweeps more often. and America need to learn that they are being played. Why wait 2 months if not to stop any suggestions of a cease fire. Or they know the compound that he uses when he goes to Tehran, they know the room he usually has, they just had to wait until his next visit. How often does he go to Tehran from Qatar? If it had been a missile strike then yes, they might have been able to hit him any time he left Qatar but a pre-planted bomb says they had to wait for him. So not a deliberate attempt to stop a cease fire just now. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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