CityDave Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) It's a shame you can't discuss this like an adult, instead choosing to go for petty digs. I'd say I'm on the verge of tears but it's gone beyond that. I'm morbidly upset you think I'm a nobody. Lord Nimmo Smith has never set out the legal argument, he's set out the SFAs argument. Lord Glennie has never defined the club and company as seperate. He was involved in a contract dispute between two parties neither of whom claimed the other was wrong with their view of the clubs continuance. The Scottish footballing authorities do not get to define what a club is when there is already an existing legal definition. Unlucky. I must have missed this one, but since when did Tedi become box office?. Edited June 2, 2013 by CityDave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Hopefully there will still be some action against Whyte, at least. Investigations are continuing. This Walter Mitty character is getting it from all sides, I have work colleagues from the Grantown area and I'm sure we will be first to find out when the bailiffs finally turn up to evict him from Grant Castle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam. Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I must have missed this one, but since when did Tedi become box office?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 As soon as you start editing peoples posts you leave yer self open for petty digs. I think it is safe to say that Lord Nimmo is a law lord and as such his ruling can be considered case law. And Lord Glennie has defined club and company separately. [1] This is a petition for judicial review by the Rangers Football Club plc, a company presently in administration. That company presently operates Rangers Football Club Now I am sure you also said you would accept UEFA`s word on things or do you also now believe they have a vested interest? Now if we forget about the email sent to STV which is pretty conclusive and also forget that UEFA will always take their position from the governing association anyway, how do you explain the only Rangers listed at UEFA with co-efficient points from previous seasons having 0.860 points added for season 2012/13? Lns said they were the same club because the governing body changed the rules so that the company and club are somehow separate. He said that the rules allow him to punish rangers as a continuing entity. Your going on as if he was judging whether they were the same club or something. As for uefa, like u say they take their lead from the governing body. The sfa It all boils down to whether a club and the company it turned into are separate entities. We all know they aren't. Sevco bought the assets and business of old rangers. No more, no less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 He is the best manager in Scotland. That is no mean feat tho, as the rest of them are fucking murder. I don't think Neil is a great manager fwiw, too many defeats for my liking, but every time he wins I feel great for him. The best GIUY possible to the haters in this Shithole country. He's been through more than most. God Bless TLB. Been paying too much attention to McMadeupname. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam. Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I know, it's just I've been waiting months to use that video. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) Been paying too much attention to McMadeupname. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Scotland is a shithole. So is England and Ireland. Wales too. All shitholes ran by self serving MP's. I'm fucking ashamed to be Scottish Edited June 2, 2013 by Henrik's tongue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam. Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 As soon as you start editing peoples posts you leave yer self open for petty digs. I think it is safe to say that Lord Nimmo is a law lord and as such his ruling can be considered case law. And Lord Glennie has defined club and company separately. [1] This is a petition for judicial review by the Rangers Football Club plc, a company presently in administration. That company presently operates Rangers Football Club Now I am sure you also said you would accept UEFA`s word on things or do you also now believe they have a vested interest? Now if we forget about the email sent to STV which is pretty conclusive and also forget that UEFA will always take their position from the governing association anyway, how do you explain the only Rangers listed at UEFA with co-efficient points from previous seasons having 0.860 points added for season 2012/13? I didn't edit your post, only you and moderstors/admin can do that. What I did was quote your post, critique it and make it clear I'd done so. If you find that objectionable or an invitation to respond with insults, you have serious issues regarding criticism. So all the times you've said Lord Nimmo Smith confirmed the club and company were separate you were being deliberately misleading, posting your interpretation of them as fact. Thanks for clearing that up. And no, we can't take that his interpretation of a private member club (the SFA) as case law for anything other than rulings brought by that club (what a ridiculous suggestion). That quote from Lord Glennie doesn't state the club and the company have separate legal entities, it says Rangers plc runs Rangers Football Club. How do you explain Rangers last game being v St Johnstone on their website? An addition to old Rangers coefficient 3 years before they can compete in European competition is not proof they've investigated the matter (including the UKs legal definition of club) and returned a final conclusion. My opinion is that UEFA clearly feel they aren't in a position to officially comment one way or the other (as evidenced by their lack of public comment), so all either side of the argument have to go on are insignificant webpages and media dept emails. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) I didn't edit your post, only you and moderstors/admin can do that. What I did was quote your post, critique it and make it clear I'd done so. If you find that objectionable or an invitation to respond with insults, you have serious issues regarding criticism. So all the times you've said Lord Nimmo Smith confirmed the club and company were separate you were being deliberately misleading, posting your interpretation of them as fact. Thanks for clearing that up. And no, we can't take that his interpretation of a private member club (the SFA) as case law for anything other than rulings brought by that club (what a ridiculous suggestion). That quote from Lord Glennie doesn't state the club and the company have separate legal entities, it says Rangers plc runs Rangers Football Club. How do you explain Rangers last game being v St Johnstone on their website? An addition to old Rangers coefficient 3 years before they can compete in European competition is not proof they've investigated the matter (including the UKs legal definition of club) and returned a final conclusion. My opinion is that UEFA clearly feel they aren't in a position to officially comment one way or the other (as evidenced by their lack of public comment), so all either side of the argument have to go on are insignificant webpages and media dept emails. Top division games only. Check other Scottish teams who have been in Europe but are now in the lower divisions e.g. Dunfermline. Edited June 2, 2013 by Bearwithme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Lns said they were the same club because the governing body changed the rules so that the company and club are somehow separate. He said that the rules allow him to punish rangers as a continuing entity. Your going on as if he was judging whether they were the same club or something. As for uefa, like u say they take their lead from the governing body. The sfa It all boils down to whether a club and the company it turned into are separate entities. We all know they aren't. Sevco bought the assets and business of old rangers. No more, no less. Dhenboy drop the charade, everyone knows it's you. As Tom English said on radio, if it's a different/new club then why are Celtic fans obsessing over it.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Dhenboy drop the charade, everyone knows it's you. As Tom English said on radio, if it's a different/new club then why are Celtic fans obsessing over it.... I think you and other Gers fans would miss that if they did stop obsessing, all part and parcel of the fun and games. Scottish Football Celtic needs a strong Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Liam, he's just reaming it from a much adored thread on the swamp, which is all "what to do if Timmy says this"... tedster is only following orders and not debating. And Uefa might update their webpage after Chucky called platini a jakeball and suggested getting round him by giving him a drink or twelve.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain kirk Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html I see unirea are on the rankings didnt they cease a couple of years ago? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain kirk Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well really it is from this page, someone sadder than me puts it all together, expect the ASA statement to be added shortly. http://www.scribd.com/doc/142379646/Rangers-Newco-Same-Club Funnily enough it is the same place Charlotte posts her various bits and bobs. Links to rangers bloggers eh? Thats me convinced then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Tedi....precedents... Kings Lynn went bust owing tax. Liquidated. Still keep the nickname they had, added "town" to their name and are working back through the leagues whilst laying claim to their history.. Any differences? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Dunno anything about them, do they still play in the same stadium? have the same fans, continuation recognised by their governing body? Possibly....but they admit they reformed....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 And your Uefa email.......again and again I have to keep pointing out to you that it contains the club is no longer the same in a legal form. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Kings Lynn? Is this what it's come to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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