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Cheers for the summary! So quiet day the day then? That Traynor column is absurd. Rabble rousing hysteria at its finest.

Oh ye gods. I've not been on since Saturday, and I've got a busy day....I've summarised for people before, could somebody please sum up the last 24 hours or so please? Any good articles or particular posts worth reading? Any real news? Thanks!

In fairness, Celtic ARE a global brand. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.

So..quiet evening then? You can always tell a quiet way by the way the diddy fans tear into each other! I didn't see this discussed, but the post above with this link about Lafferty is interesting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18658805 Well done the SFA, demonstrating their famous spine and integrity to the world.

Dishing out some serious teltage there. Raith were always my preferred Fife club, and this only confirms it!

On the subject of sharing gate receipts, I am against it. Celtic spend far more on marketing, and spent to build such a massive stadium, why should they be forced to give away all the money they have earned? Where is the incentive to attract fans, if it doesn't profit them? Different clubs make different efforts to generate revenue, and in my view, sharing the cash does not really reward entrepeneurship

Caught! Btw, its Alt gr and a vówél!

By the way, can we PLEASE stop talking about 3 years accounts? We've already established weeks ago that this isn't a rule, and the application is discretionary.

I just refresh this thread. I don't even read other threads at the moment! People ask how I cope without owning a tv. All I can say is that this thread is far more entertaining, and far more addictive!

I dunno, I think it sums up the mood quite well. Rangers are having a day off being the bad guys here, you may as well enjoy it!

That is a pretty fucking clear and unequivocal statement. Well done to Dunfermline!

We're doing it wrong. We should have spent a hundred million quid, artificially got into the prem, then we would have gone bust and been allowed to restart in division 1 with no debt. Any idea what our club makes of this?

Your posts turn my stomach. VT called it right. Weasel words from a quisling.

My position too. The SFL clubs should just turn round and say that this is all fine, apart from the Rangers bit. After all, if this is "for the good of the game", then Rangers aren't a deal breaker, right?

Do you mean the clubs or the fans here? If you mean the fans, I think you're wrong, and if you mean the clubs, have they actually been seriously asked the question? Genuinely curious here btw as I don't know the answer, and you are usually clued up on this sort of stuff! How will the fans react if the SPL clubs end up voting YES to the newco after all they've said? Do the authorities live in a bubble, completely isolated from the world?

1. That would mean a YES vote by the SPL clubs. If this goes through, then I really am done with Scottish football. And its a real shame because it is actually a decent plan. 2. Irrelevant to me in the context of 1. 3. Yes to a merger. 4. Yes to a play off. 5. Yes to increased support for relegated clubs. 6. Yes to increased and fairer distribution. 7. Yes to a pyramid, and good on the SFA for coming up with a decent plan. 2 regional leagues sounds sensible. 8. This seems reasonable to me. So basically, its a really good plan, absolutely scunnered by point number 1. How fucking dare they. If they do this, I'm done. Its the EPL and La Liga for me instead.

A couple things. Firstly, regarding the people commenting on the lack of debate, they're dead right. Yes, some of the analysis has been excellent, and the thread has been compulsive reading, but any Rangers fans are shouted down, and when people try to give some balance to the hysteria, they are drowned out. There are also far, far too many cringeworthy posts (some of the song lyrics have been dreadful), and there is too much posting for the sake of posting. Also, if you have a news story, read back at least the previous 3 pages just to check eh? I do think people need to maybe calm down a little. The thread might be a bit less active, but it'll be a better thread for it. Oh, and see all this "well other clubs didn't point fingers and reacted with humility" pish? Well I remember Gretna in admin, and both Dundee admins, and Motherwells admin. Many of the fans were definitely not humble or realistic, with Dundee being particularly bad for it. Frankly, Rangers and Dundee probably have the same percentage of absolute fucknuts in their fanbase, its just that Rangers are a much bigger club. Now hold that thought, I'll come back to it.. Oh, and enough of the Rangersmedia obsession eh? Its a bit cringeworthy. Now, what I'm about to say might sound a bit crazy, but bear with me here. I think Brown is on to something. There, I said it. Firstly, people on here have been asking why the fans haven't been active and haven't tried to get something properly started...well here is one Bomber Brown, the first person to actually apologise to Scottish football on behalf of Rangers. And I believe he is using exactly the right kind of language to get Rangers fans going. I was thinking about this this evening, and I believe that part of the reason that there hasn't been an organised single group is because Rangers have literally been an institution. I know we're all mocking this idea, but look at the way the media have reacted. They ARE more than just a club. They've been used to having things handed to them on a plate for so long that they have never needed to organise and muster. The media have always been on their side, their chairman was an expert in placating them, the authorities frequently turn a blind eye. We've (as in non OF fans) have long commented on this, so we would be lying if we said that this wasn't the case. They do have a long history of funny handshakes and the like. So they have never had a "proper" fans trust, and I doubt they'll really be organised even if they started right now. No, Rangers need to play to their strengths, playing nice hasn't worked. And that just leaves the less pleasant side of Rangers...now Rangers do have a lot of rather unique associations. I'm thinking Orange lodges, organised crime, and Northern Irish paramilitaries. Frankly, I think they need to take advantage of those associations. If Green continues to play silly buggers and lie to the media and fans as much as he has been doing, then the less "nice" aspect of the Rangers fanbase are going to have to show their hand a bit. A spot of intimidation might work. I'm not saying I agree with it, but its probably something Rangers can do better than any other fanbase...

I consider myself to be fairly sharp, and also someone who has followed this thread in incredible, work slacking, detail. But I'm also now utterly confused. When I'm on here next, hopefully someone has worked it out and explained it for us simpletons!

I've long agreed with SH's view, I'd be happy to see Rangers in the third. As for players, tbh I'm not sure I agree with you. Players in the lower leagues tend to be on one year contracts and move around a lot anyway. Rangers will be able to pay slightly more than they would likely get otherwise, so you'll find people will happily sign for Rangers for a season.

When it says Brown quit, did he actually quit, or did he object to the TUPE?

You know what, well done to Brown! About time someone did it.

And uninvited - an unfortunate slight.

I hadn't noticed that, good spot!

I wouldn't say so: It reads like a negotiating position to me. This is what we want, and here is a big fucking caveat hinting that we could be bought.

Dude, it was a joke, based on the sooky nature of your chairman! No offence intended!