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That the Portuguese police are shambolic amateurs who have mistreated the McCann family.
It says in the Portuguese police report that they interviewed every ocean beach club employee which presumably includes the crèche workers but there didn't seem to be any info about a child being collected from the crèche at 9:15 who was spotted by Jane tanner, very strange.
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The stuff i have seen with regards to them is the worst pish i have read - so many people say that they thin the Macanns are in on it - then when you ask for an explanation they say its because they get a strange feeling off the pair of them. So basically people accusing a couple of killing their daughter and dumping her body somewhere that the police can't find a trace of her in 6 years of looking based on the fact that they are a bit strange. Its simply baffling!!
There were 9 people at the tapas bar who were there with the macanns - kate went to check on them then came out screaming within minutes so for them to have been in on it they would have needed to discover her then come up with a plan to hide her and manage to bury her somewhere within a 2 minute walk of the hotel room and not leave a trace of evidence behind!! Its simply impossible that they could have killed her and done this but people just won't fucking back down on it on the grounds they have a bad gut feeling about the pair!
People are suspicious because of their crap parenting skills, the 40 minute search of the apartment, the phone call to sky news and the tennis game the next day. Add to that the inconsistencies in the tapas mob's statements including fingering murat and Kate's refusal to answer the questions.
Beyond that there is also the dog evidence and the DNA trace from the boot of the car both of which are still considered inconclusive rather than settled. There are people in jail in Scotland such as Nat Fraser, Luke Mitchell and David gilroy who have been convicted of murder on less evidence than there is against the mcann's.
These theories won't go away because the media will not address them. When you have something as absurd as a global manhunt for an efit which is an Irishman's impression of Gerry McCann given after seeing him on TV four months after the disapearance then people are going to assume there is more to this case then the media and police are letting on.
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Wednesday? You actually made me check..thought I was closer to the weekend for a second.
f**k sake!
I am a bit sleep deprived at the moment.
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It's Thursday and our formerly vociferous national media have neither tracked down nor explained the discovery of the 9:15 man nor been over to Ireland to interview the people they are promoting as being the last to see Madeleine alive via the new efits.
Is this down to leveson or something else?
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the daily mail are now reporting (without any direct quotes) that the mystery 9:15 man came forward with the exact pyjamas that his daughter was wearing when jane tanner supposedly saw him coming out the creche. WTF?
so we have crime watch ignoring the fact that the 10pm sighting was originally reported as being gerry mccann and the rest of the media tip toeing around the strange circumstances of the 9:15 man being id'd five years later. there is something afoot.
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That Jane tanner woman also pointed the finger at Robert Murat.I'm an open minded person - but are you telling me that the McCann's were not only involved in this but also managed to convince their friends to lie on their behalf ?
Whether the mcann's put them up to it or not she was lying.
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Did they not say the tanner sighting was a man taking his own daughter home from the crèche. ?
tanner didn't give a description of the man she thought she saw carrying a blonde 4 year old until 4 months after MM was reported missing. does that sound normal to you?
if tanner is exposed as a liar it would be petrol on the conspiracy bonfire which they probably want to avoid. how can it have taken the police over 4 years to find this guy? why would the person not have come forward if they were in the area with their own 4 old year daughter?
nothing about the tanner sighting makes sense.
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There is more evidence against the mcann's than David gilroy, Luke Mitchell and Nat Fraser combined.
They're lucky they were in Portugal and not Millport.
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So we are to believe that the Jane tanner sighting at 9:15 has resulted many years later in the guy being found with a legitimate story but we're not hearing who it is or when this was discovered or how they didn't manage to find this guy who was obviously staying in the area for years.
We now have a ten o'clock sighting which is being focused on which comes from an Irish family called the smiths who originally said they thought it was Gerry McCann.
I suspect tanner has admitted making up the quarter past 9 sighting and the police are going for this ten o'clock sighting to max out the overtime and foreign trips.
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Just had a look at the new photo fits.
The picture of the man carrying the child at 9:15 from 2007 had long hair down to his collar, the new photo fit has a short back and sides. More tapas 9 lies by the look of it.
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They've been so villified that their non registered charity has received 3m in donations.
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only seen the first episode but it was interesting how explicit they made the CIA conspiracy to lie to the house committee out to be.
considering that edward snowden has said that seeing the head of the NSA lying to congress was the thing that inspired him to blow the whistle on internet surveillance it will be interesting to see if go for a similar story. since carrie can no longer work for the CIA and brody can't do anything other than live in the woods or get locked up the show needs a new angle and this could be it.
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You just made that up
PB is getting thicker by the alias,
is it not the case that we have never finished lower than third in a qualifying group?
so unless we beat croatia and serbia lose to macedonia with a swing of 9 goals this will be the worst performing scotland team ever.
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I see the dream sequence as being a perfectly valid alternate interpretation - I don't think it was intended by the writers, but all fiction is metafiction, on some level, and while of course the writers' own thoughts on it are interesting and important from a critical point of view, that doesn't give them a monopoly on interpretation. (I admit I'm also sympathetic to the theory because I agree with Nussbaum that it would actually make for a much better ending.)
On the other hand, TSAR's and Jim's efforts to persuade us that this is actually the *right* interpretation, based on building castles on what look like straightforward continuity errors, is all a bit silly.
i think there are too many hints towards the fantasy theory for it to be unintentional. i would wager that they chose to make a story which would satisfy conventional demands but also inspire investigation and discussion in the future.
eg. the way that walter tells the scharwzs when junior turns 18 seems designed to encourage speculation on the time frame. the strange photos are also a big hint that they are trying to add mystery.
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TSAR in 'completely ignore anything that ruins the fantasy conspiracy, continue with truther approach' shocker.
Troll detected, have fun
no one has offered anything to support the realist interpretation which hasn't been countered.
Explain to me how it is possible that walter returns to new mexico on september the 6th.
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The massive time jump is the thing that tips the balance for me. Walt arrives in New Hampshire and is told his propane will last him the winter. At least a couple of months later it is still snowing. Yet he arrives back on his birthday, that means it took him around 6 months to travel across the country. Again it seems unlikely.
in ozymandias skylar says that holly is 18 months old. she was born at christmas 2009 which means ozymandias took place roughly in july 2011.
robert foster said it would take a while to get walter set up and when they arrive in new hampshire there is snow which means they got there in septemer at the earliest. robert foster made at least two monthly visits which moves us up to november/december.
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Mainly for the simple fact it has. Most of his theories are outdated and don't apply to society today and arguably never did.
Did you lose sexual attraction to your mother because of fear of castration by your father as a two year old? Do you think women are envious of the fact you have a penis? The Oedipus stage of a boys sexual development and female penis envy are absolutely laughable.
He was also a heavy cocaine user, and quite often prescribed cocaine to fix any mental illness.
what about the concept of the unconscious mind, psychoanalysis and the concept of the id, ego and super ego. all of these ideas are still prominent in western culture.
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Again, it's 9/11 truther stuff. There's a photograph of a guy who resembles Walt to a minimal degree in the background of some scene, so let's ignore the theory requiring us to believe that Jesse is fantasising within Walt's subconscious from a place Walt does not know he is located - fantasising about something he had only revealed was his ambition in Narcotics Anonymous. Errr whit? Or are they sharing a subconscious or something because Gilligan has watched too much Inception?
Does Walt's subconscious also extend to phone calls between Skyler and Marie when Walt is not present, which allude to stuff that had been shown in flashforwards in previous episodes of this series? Does his wish-fulfillment not extend to reconciliation with his son? Why the f**k does he cough in a dream? Why does the dream continue when he is lying either unconscious or dead, as the police move in? Why does he want Jesse to break free from his control and tell him to shoot himself, when that is Jesse's own character development?
Its a case of people reading far too much into stuff because they were dissatisfied with the finale, or because they wish to believe themselves above the sheeple who haven't come up with a ridiculous, wafer-thin theory involving freeze frames and focusing on inconsequential events or things which have already been explained to them (such as the watch).
Although Walt is obviously an Alien and he transported himself, Badger and the other one into the Schwarz compound in his spaceship. It's the only explanation that fits.
Edit, just to add finally that if you think 'The ending was all a dream' is a good storytelling device I wouldn't look down on people who enjoy 'magnets bitch!' too much.
it's nothing like 9/11. there is only one true version of what happened in 9/11 the same as any real event. this episode of a tv show is a text constructed by multiple people and it is quite possible that it has been purposely created with multiple meanings.
the photo hasn't just randomly appeared in the show. someone or some people have chosen to include in shot a photo frame with a picture of a dog above a picture of a man who looks like bryan cranston. it's an odd choice and i think it's natural to speculate that there is a particular reason behind the choice.
it's also interesting that the schwarz's are listening to part of the opera faust. the similarity is that just as faust is about to die extremely unhappily mephistopheles appears and offers him the chance to live and guarantees to help him achieve his heart's desire. the way that everything works perfectly for walt and he can move about freely is similarly supernatural.
i would argue that the scene with jesse in the woodshop is jess's own displacement fantasy and the scene with him in the meth lab reality. the scene with walt in the car up to the close up of his eyes is reality and the rest of the episode is his displacement fantasy.
on the topic of the phone call with marie all the dialoouge which occurs that walt isn't directly privy to is extremely odd.
the schwarzs talk about pizza and thai food and then start havering nonsense about 1921, the sweet smell of success and islamabad. when walt comes in the conversation becomes more lucid and she says "two years it's been too long" which is the exact amount of time since the first episode and walt's cancer diagnosis. the bit about elliot's knife not being big enough seems like a manifestion of walt's sexual rivalry with elliot over gretchen.
marie has a strange fascination with the neighbour's name and then says it's a 'million to one chance' walt can get to skylar which of course he has already done. i'd say that is walt's ego massaging itself that he can beat impossible odds.
with todd and lydia again they are having an extremely banal conversation about lydia's blouse then lydia massages walt's ego by asking him how he found them. basically "tell me how smart you are". the conversation with jack is also extremely banal and compliments walt on his hair.
i don't believe that they chose to shoot an elaborate scene where walt makes a big deal of getting rid of the watch for no reason and i also don't believe that the reflection in the microwave happened by chance considering the complex lighting of that scene.
the ending all being a dream seems cliche but the idea of creating two different endings is extremely interesting. an ending which pleases the action junkies who like things to be linear whilst also being open to a more complex reading which addresses some of the moral problems the series posed is extremely original and a good way to deal with the problem of the vocal audience that tv shows almost uniquely face. the people who make the show are obviously intelligent, creative people and i think it's more likely they did something ambitious than a cliched, contrived straight forward redemption story. i can believe that walter white wouldn't acknowledge the suffering he has caused but i don't think gilligan would.
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Yes I agree with your first point. However this is not an English class and TSAR isn't writing a critique to be assessed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and the fact that myself nor yourself see no conclusive evidence to point to the theory being true, TSAR is still free to interpret the ending in any way he wants. You don't need to evidence to believe something.
I also find it amusing that his theory is based on the Psychological work of Sigmund Freud. A body of work which is largely discredited because of "plot holes" in his theories.
i'm interested in why you believe that freud has been discredited?
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You can't really. People make this mistake in English classes all over the country. You can interpret it in any way as long as you can back it up. His 'evidence' is pretty ridiculous.
His frame by frame analysis of the episode is weird as well.
Although Walt was obviously a ghost. This explains why he could walk into cafes in Albequerque without being noticed, and why he was impervious to bullets. Really at the end he just came to peace with his place in the spiritual world and the 'bullet wound' was symbolic of that - makes more sense than that he was dreaming about lying unconscious/dead with the police sweeping in.
how is it ridiculous to point out that there is serious time leap in the episode to go from blizzard conditions in new hampshire to the beginning of september in new mexico? to me that is the biggest hint that the narrative steps outside reality.
also do you have an ideas on the photograph the schwarz's have with a guy who looks like bryan cranston below a dog?
the theory is that walter's subconcious mind is displacing him from being stuck in the car in new hampshire surrounded by the police to a wish fulfillment fantasy and lone behold later in the episode a character says to him "there's no replacement for displacement". the exact psychological theory that the fantasy ending idea is based on being mentioned by name seems like strong evidence to me.
there a loads of wee details that hint towards walter's story all taking place in his subconscious (including the fact that he actually says "this will make a great story" on the phone). i like the idea that gilligan has created two endings, a realist one for team walt viewers who love magnets, train robberies and remote control machine guns and an alternate abstract one for viewers who were looking for a more moralistic ending to the show.
a lot of the critics who have unreservedly praised this season commented that the finale seemed 'off' and plenty of posters mentioned on here how things went too perfectly for walt and the moral issues with him going out on his own terms without recognising the damage he has caused.
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the nazi says "there's no replacement for displacement"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_%28psychology%29
A term originating with Sigmund Freud,[2] displacement operates in the mind unconsciously, its transference of emotions, ideas, or wishes being most often used to allay anxiety in the face of aggressive or sexual impulses.
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not a great pic but does anyone else think that is byran cranston below the dog?
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I would have liked to have seen Walter been confronted a little more with the misery his meth caused in the programme. It strikes me as a major strand of plot that was never really developed. I also would have liked to have seen a little more of a thought provoking ending rather than the popcorn denouement that we got, like people have mentioned. I think there needed to be some kind of acknowledgment that actually, its not all instantly ok because Jesse is free and Walter killed some Nazis. The likes of Brock, Lydia's daughter, Marie etc are still out there living broken lives, because of Walter, essentially.
Doesn't take too much away from the greatness of the show, but I think calling it the greatest ever is overstating things.
aye, i think i've said that before.
two of the best things they did were episode were the methheads kidnapped jesse and you saw their son growing up in unbelievable squalor and the montage with the hooker turning tricks and buying meth over and over.
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at 9 minutes in walt is looking at photos. at the back right of the table there is a frame with two photos, the top one is a dog is the bottom photo a younger walter?
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Madeleine Mccann Missing Girl
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It's a dream job for the cops. Everyone with a brain knows she's dead but they are getting as much money as they want not to find her.
Look at the photofit. An Irish family phone up the police and say they think they saw Gerry McCann holding a child at 10pm, this memory was sparked by by seeing Gerry McCann holding a child on TV. The report leads to a photofit which looks a bit Gerry McCann. It is patently nonsense but now the police and the media are promoting it world wide as a vital clue to find the unknown kidnapper which is utterly absurd.