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I really need my eyes tested!
I'd stop digging right now if I was you...
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This is the name of the Pub where i watched the 2008 UEFA Cup Final in Manchester
Didn't you fancy the Waxy O'Connor's just down from it?
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What was the pish with all the red cards at Ibrox on Saturday?! Saw it on Sportscene last night. 'Red Card To Liquidation'?! Really?! So can I just fire down the bank and say "here's a red card, I'm not paying my overdraft off!" then? Or can I fire into an auction and just hold a red card up instead of paying? Or can I simply use the red card like a debit card, but of course not pay any money at all? I could just saunter up the till in any shop and produce the red card and I would get everything for free.
This is my understanding of the situation.
It wasn't red cards. Rangers saved money by handing out some of the final reminders they hadn't shredded yet.
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I've spent a wee while this afternoon on Wilipedia,
Ya dirty old bugger.
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"If you're going through hell, keep going".
Indeed, on the day that we thrashed the old enemy at Ibrox, the sale of union flags brought in over £47,000 for the fighting fund.Yep, Rangers are indeed taking positive steps to get rid of sectarianism.
Bluenoses are noted the world over for their inventiveness and ingenuity and many have 'stepped up to the plate' yet again with amazing fundraising ideas.Fans like David MacIntosh, who made a fantastic donation of £550 to the Fund with the money raised by means of fans downloading the song he recorded.
But, perhaps, the most innovative and productive initiative has been the red and black scarf campaign organised, and brought to fruition, by Rangers fans Jim O'Donnell, Stuart MacLean and Will Craig.
In other words, no inventiveness or ingenuity at all and of course Messrs O'Donnell, MacLean and Craig innovative initiative had nothing to do with them copying the Man Utd yellow/green idea.
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Maybe a little alteraion could even be used for newco...Buckfast Fizz FC
Sounds good and as the supporters of Buckfast Fizz pretend they're really watching Rangers they could sing their new club song...The Land of Make Believe.
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It is, but the name change seems to be the crucial thing to 7-2, where it doesn't seem that important to me. If Falkirk went bust and had to call itself something else, I'd be more concerned with who the new owners were than the name change, and I'd still be glorying in our record 4 Challenge Cup victories
We aren't talking about our cuddly little diddy clubs though. The name change is important in my eyes as without it, it's just legal stuff that doesn't really matter to supporters, even though in the real world it is.
The name Rangers means so much to these knuckledraggers. It stands for so much. It is far more than just the name of a football club. It's a lifestyle. Remove that and you show everyone the beast has been slain, or in this case, committed suicide. The bigots may transfer their allegiance and pretend who they are watching is Rangers but it won't be. Rangers will be dead. Removing the name would confirm it to all.
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What is there to stop two different groups trying to set up a "newco" Rangers should they be voted out of the SPL? If no-one can afford to buy Ibrox etc so that there are no assets to distinguish a Newco as Rangers, and two different fan groups attempt to set up a "Newco" Rangers from scratch, which one will the supporters choose?
Bucks Fizz fans had the same dilemma. Stick with a BF with no original members or go to Bobby Gee's Bucks Fizz gigs. Decisions decisions. Maybe Coisty could set up Ally McCoist's Rangers if someone tries to use the Rangers name.
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If an American lawyer came over and said you weren't allowed to use Johnstone in your club's name as his firm had global copyright , and you had to call yourselves Perth City, would you stop going to games, and celebrating past victories?
Em, er...stick to the Druids.
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What else did you expect??? Seems startling obvious that the NewCo will be Rangers in everything but name.
Everything but name and legal entity. Rangers will be dead. That you and others choose to keep its memories alive through another club is irrelevant. Rangers will be dead.
I just wanted to hear what a long standing Rangers man would say without making assumptions. Some others have said they would give up going to games as Rangers were dead. I just hope its the vast majority that think that.
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The one about the naming of the Newco?
I have no idea what they would be called and it matters little to me as i would see them as Rangers Football Club just under another name..They would still be my club and if it means we lose some of the baggage that went with the old club then so be it.
I was thinking about what you said...Did Gretna not reform a Newco and still use Gretna in the new name.?
Gretna 2008 apparently have 'no legal connection with the original Gretna FC' but they look to have wangled their way round it. Easier for them than Rangers though.
However, you have confirmed what was expected. No matter which club rises out of the ashes they will be Rangers in their supporters eyes, called Rangers no matter what the clubs name is and all the baggage will be transferred to it. Thank you.
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They'll be back just the same way as they came back in '86 when Holmes brought in Souness. For years before that i went everywhere following Rangers never having to worry about tickets then suddenly within 2 or 3 years it was a struggle to get tickets for certain fixtures. I remember talking about this at a pub in Aberdeen before a game up there and 2 guys blaming me and my mates for all Rangers troubles in the early 80s for blindly following the team and not 'boycotting' the games .
You missed out answering the post before this one No8. Could you please respond?
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As for the team i would be supporting...I suppose the new name could be Glasgow Rangers Football Club as many wrongly believe this to be our name anyway so it will make little difference.
There are posts from yesterday on this thread that strongly suggest a new club couldn't use the name Rangers for legal reasons. Would you therefore declare Govan FC to have won x championships etc and adopt Rangers history?
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That is not true. There is a very good chance Rangers will be demoted to the 3rd division and the entire squad released from their contracts and we will be made to start from the bottom of the senior game in this country. If this happens it will not influence in anyway my attendance at the games..I will be there 100% behind the team and the Club..The thought of not going has never even entered my head. For footballing reasons that might actually be the best thing to happen to the game as a whole in this country for decades.
The Club? Which club though? If Rangers is liquidated and any new club can't use the name Rangers, which Club will you actually be supporting? Will you just deem them as Rangers and bestow Rangers honours and traditions upon them and carry on as if nothing had really happened?
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It's no coincidence that the general quality of this thread dips markedly each and every time a Celtic fan decides to post on it. Maybe it's their unabashed joy at Rangers' predicament, or perhaps an innate anxiety that they might be next, but their enthusiasm in spouting pish left right and centre is ruining an otherwise highly entertaining read.
Beat it ya tinks.
Yep. It's the usual suspects with their usual tit for tat crap. I'm surprised it's taken this long to sink to such levels actually.
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This site is excellent and tells you the debts of Rangers and all SPL clubs.
Falkirk? All SPL clubs? Exactly when was it excellent?
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I refer anyone doubting it to post 10963. You cannot have a reasoned discussion with any bigot brother follower. They are, I'm delighted to say, on a different planet from the normal world.
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Airdrie is the name of a town and I would assume any company based in a town could adopt the name of said town, Glasgow Rangers newco could adopt the Glasgow part of the name no problem but I think they'd struggle to justify using the Rangers part.
Going by the above, it looks as if the fact it is a geographical name wouldn't be a consideration. I suppose a company using the local name that went bust had already had their chance to use the city/town name and blown it.
The blue bigots aren't actually Glasgow Rangers. They are The Rangers Football Club I believe so if the above is right there is no way they could use the words Rangers again. Please.
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Why were Aidrionians not allowed to use the old name and had to become Airdrie Utd?
(b)it is a name which is so similar to a name falling within paragraph (a) as to suggest an association with that company.
I would have thought that any name including Airdrie would be similar to Airdrionians and/or suggest association with them. My hopes are fading already.
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I doubt if it is, to be honest.
I admit to knowing even less about such things than a Rangers fan, but surely this would have emerged before now. Is there not a distinction to be drawn between the name of the company and that of the team?
Middlesborough and Leeds have also emerged as NewCos, but without changing name.
I'd dearly love to be wrong on this, but I just don't see it.
Leeds was my first thought then also about the loads of dodgy double glazing and sofa firms that close down and re-emerge with apparent name variations. However a quick wiki showed that Leeds were never actually liquidated. Bates did his smoke and mirrors trick by manipulating administration. I didn't look any further admittedly.
I admit it does seem too good to be true though.
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I'm not going to argue with bearwithme. He has his own entrenched view of the situation and anything posted here won't change his mind.
It's a waste of time trying to have a reasoned discussion/argument with any of the bigot followers. Entrenched view is an understatement.
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So Newco Rangers can't use the word Rangers.
Oh please please please let it be true.
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That's a very negative pic, not positive. The sun's going down on Rangers and there's a guy locking the gates on the club. That's death, not glory.
Excellent.
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I do believe we have found a rallying cry for the new, improved* Govan Athletic!
KTID
* No money, no history, no Europe, no integrity.
I love the idea that I've seen suggested a couple of places. Really turn the knife by having one of the fast track SPL entry conditions as the name Rangers can't be used in the name of the newco. Just wipe the b*****ds off the face of the earth as much as possible.
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Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!
in Celtic v Rangers, Rangers v Celtic
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That would have sent the message out loud and clear...only one bar in the centre Manchester that did less trade than normal when a Euro final was on!