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Unacceptable.
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23 minutes ago, Derry Alli said:
More worrying g is there's a few on here I'm pretty certain would do the same.
Slightly too far. They would, however, support a return to the Scottish leagues if the lad shows adequate contrition for his vile crimes upon serving his sentence.
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25 minutes ago, Shanner said:
I can tell.
A total waste of time posting then, really.33 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said:Graham Rix?
A manager who spent four months in Scotland two decades ago.
A more recent and relevant example of a player would be Adam Johnson, who hasn’t found a professional club since his release. I know he is viewed incredibly favourably by the community after serving his time and being rehabilitated.
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3 minutes ago, Shanner said:
Do you seriously think that remotely close to what I was saying?
Genuinely have no idea what point you were trying to make originally.
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13 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said:
There is precedent for people who have done their time and admitted their guilt being given a second chance aye. Imagine a world where Goodwillie had been affected by a criminal trial, sentenced to a couple years in jail, reflected on his behaviour, and emerged a changed man, one who was an active campaigner and tried to make a positive difference while using football as his platform?
That would be very different from him being found guilty of being a rapist, going bankrupt to avoid paying the victim, and then insisting that he's the real victim.
Which convicted rapists have gone on to have careers in Scottish football?
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7 minutes ago, HorseyGhirl said:
I for one would be willing to listen to what he has to say about it. And form an opinion on the person he is now.
ok mate
No one’s forcing you to read the thread btw. You can simply not engage if you don’t feel like it.
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22 hours ago, Shanner said:
It's only redundant If you think that the dunces supporting DG wouldn't just shapeshift their opinion to suit whatever alternative circumstances were presented to them.
Do you seriously think that if Goodwillie was criminally convicted of rape, went to jail for however many years & said he was sorry for his actions that he’d be welcomed back into Scottish football clubs? That he’d be treated much better than he’s currently being treated? A wee pat on the head, ‘don’t worry about the raping David, you’re rehabilitated’.
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15 minutes ago, Shanner said:
If you were to project the numbers on this thread trying to make an argument for him onto wider society you'd have an alarming number of people who are more than happy to let him continue to play.
Yes, and the main reason cited is that he’s never been criminally convicted . Your argument is totally redundant, that’s the point. There’s no point going round in circles over something we fundamentally agree on.
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2 minutes ago, Shanner said:
I think the point around rehabilitation is that it would have helped his own situation in the court of public opinion enormously to show a degree of remorse etc.
The flip side is that he has basically retreated into mewing self pity and in doing so has made it impossible for any fair minded person to give him the benefit of the doubt. Now he appears to be nothing more than a poster boy for misogynistic losers.
I personally wouldn't want my own club to have anything to do with him regardless of any of the above btw. I think you basically forfeit your right to be in the position of influence a football player enjoys when you do what he did regardless of remorse. It's just too great a risk imo.
Nah don’t agree with that at all. A convicted, yet remorseful rapist would not garner any greater public support to get back into football - certainly not to an ‘enormous’ extent. IMO the only reason clubs have continued to even sign him is that he doesn’t have a conviction for it and denies culpability.
I don’t think many members of the public will be giving him ‘the benefit of the doubt’ regardless.
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12 minutes ago, HorseyGhirl said:
I feel each offender needs to be treated individually.
The first stage is acceptance and admittance of what they have done. From there there are different parts that can be travelled.
A massive problem with a sex offender is; they may understand what they have done and it's effect on others. It does not automatically follow that they can or even want to be rehabilitated. There is no one fit solution.
footnote: apart from maybe castration.
No, I wouldn’t be comfortable for any rapist turning out for St Johnstone. Similarly I wouldn’t want to cheer on a remorseful paedo. These crimes are different, those convicted of them are treated differently (e.g. in prison).
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The argument that people would be accepting of David Goodwillie playing for their club had he shown remorse and undergone rehabilitation is very fucking weird. There’s absolutely zero chance I’d be going along to McDiarmid to cheer on a rapist if we signed him. We don’t want a rapist playing for our clubs, it’s absolutely fine to just say this. There’s no need to go ‘oh well you know if he’d served his time and shown how sorry he was for raping then I’d love to watch him score a goal’. Bizarre.
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MacLean looks like he’s just spawned in from 2015.
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3 hours ago, tree house tam said:
Wait till I PM you about Muirton Park in the 80s, you're going to love that shite.
I could understand it though if we’d lost to a fellow Premiership side in a competitive game, but Stenny are League 2 ffs. Jeanie would give them a good game, legitimately. We’re meant to be a full time professional team, it’s horrendous losing to them.
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24 minutes ago, tree house tam said:
We've been here before....
And I told Sturrock exactly how I felt and where he should go.
Aye I heard from all the old c***s in Lithuania. Can’t wait to tell folk about this in 40 years time.
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Beaten by Stenhousemuir
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51 minutes ago, velo army said:
The fermer's top is a belter.
Reminds me of the lovely Famous Grouse effort you lads had a while back.
That was my first shirt - was a full kit w****r 5 year old.
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EA7 is such a naff kit manufacturer. I’d rather have Joma.
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The back sponsors are a bit naff but overall a very nice shirt.
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Jota’s wee farewell video. Not cringed so much in a long time. Such a Celtic thing to do though, their fans are so desperate to have their wee egos stroked about how ‘special’ a club it is.
Farewell videos in general.
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New Chelsea shirt, modelled by the lads in a jammie wearer’s living room. Don’t hate it. Mudryk looking hench.
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I think the irritating thing about leaving everything so late is that the League Cup is a massive opportunity to progress to the latter stages of a cup. Fucking up the group stage shouldn’t be acceptable, & I can see Ayr sneaking it with a Jamie Murphy winner.
Similar to others, I don’t really care about the kit that much, however it’s symptomatic of the lack of preparation. I get we’ll take a big, probably 7 figure, financial loss this year and need to cut the wage bill but we still have considerable funds in the bank and relegation would be far more disastrous from a financial perspective.
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2 hours ago, Valentino Bolognese said:
In terms of knicker-wetting, I'm moderately damp at the moment but the closer we get to real games the more the huggies pull-ups come into play.
I guess what's bothering me most is that I'm not really understanding the reasons for the lack of market activity. As a club that's up for sale there will be big pressure on cutting operational costs to make the books as attractive as possible. But, we've shed an awful lot of playing wage bill - so you have to think that would have freed a good amount of headroom. It may well be that we were carrying so much wage cost it was putting us into operating loss, but that would be veyr unusual for us.
If it's more the case that McLean is being extremely picky then that's fine and much needed after CD's scattergun approach but surely we're at the stage now where something has to happen. The big worry is that we're just not an attractive place for talent any more, which could easily be the start of a proper tailspin.
If we get to the end of the league cup groups without at lest 4 signings I'll be at the 'need to wring them out' stage. But then again, that's normal for this time of year with this club. Actually there's barely been a dry day for the last couple of years.
I reckon the 2023 financial year is going to be pretty bad based on the squad size we had last season. 100% we’ll have a big operating loss.
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I don’t think Mount’s a good signing at all tbh. There’s a load of deadwood at Man United that they need to get rid of. Maguire should be one of those out the door - could see him doing well in a league of lesser quality like Serie A alongside other average English defenders such as Smalling & Tomori.
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I’m not going to explain this to you again.
1. He had a long career at the top level (16 years in the EPL). Similar number of appearances to the likes of Gerrard who apparently played for ‘far longer’.
2. His decline was fairly gradual, over a number of seasons towards the end of his Man United career. It did not ‘fall of a cliff’.
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ok mate
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