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I'd like to know what McCoist is doing there also - but it has to be said, the McCoist and Green dream team haven't exactly been a roaring success so far - they have charmed their way into the 3rd Div without any apparent concessions...

Are we in the Champions League places?

Sorry - you got the wrong place. - It's www.dailyrecord.co.uk/hotline for that type of stream of consciousness drivel.

I was assuming (and therefore it may be pish) that having them under the SPL "umbrella" would enough for some sponsors and the TV deal - and so it would be seen as a mitigation by those desperate to see them back.

What is "in time" though? I am assuming that they have a back room deal with TV and Sponsors to live with a 1 year "absence" for Sevco and so surely, the deadline for SPL2 is August 2013? I'm sure it can be in place by then by ripping up the necessary rules

The fact that 35 out of 42 member clubs have voted against the clear wishes of Regan and Cockwomble over the SPL and SFL votes is as compelling a resignation case as I've seen. How can they hope to continue with their utter lack of credibility so publicly demonstrated?

To any representatives of the Red Tops looking on through tear stained eyes - GETITUPYE - your scaremongering pish failed yet again Seems over for the Tabs

I hope if it comes to that, the poor sod has the number of a good glazier handy....

Oddly, when I read that - I took the "little more than" out and saw it as a positive way to describe diddy clubs. Even the smallest diddy club does something that Rangers could not - and that is add something positive to their community. All Rangers have done is sucked supporters and money out of these towns whereas the local football team puts something in.

I have always assumed that an outright "no" to league football for sevco would just result in an existing league club being bought over and rebranded as "Rangers" ASAP - surely nothing to stop that happening?

I don't usually do pre-season games as I enjoy having weekends free during the "summer" to do things that I can't during the season - but I'll be heading to Ayr tomorrow for the 'Well game as clubs that stand up to be counted in that way deserve to be backed - even if it it only a few quid....

I was thinking something similar I have to admit. The "no to sevco in the SPL" part of it was seen as a major victory for supporters (and it was) but I sense that a lot of heat has gone out of the situation amongst SPL fans especially and there does not seem to be the same pressure on now that the decision is with the SFL. Anecdotally, most football fans that I know personally just want an end to this and a final decision so that we can get on with the new season and I hope this "Sevco Fatigue" doesn't allow them to be dropped into the 1st division with only token resistance. I am still 100% of the view that now that Sevco need to start in the SFL, they are treated as any other applicant and we move on and deal with the consequences - but I can see the grubby compromise coming soon

I can't believe that - why would they even try to insert another 11-1 clause and who do they expect to vote for that?? I'm sure the main "silver linings" for SPL diddy chairmen in all this are the chance to claw back some shortfall by altering TV distribution and making the voting more equitable to allow other decisions to be made in the future that help the non-OF teams. Peter Lawell must have been on the phone.....

There undoubtably has been bitterness and schadenfreude towards Rangers as an entity but that is understandable to me. To anyone like me that grew up supporting a diddy team in an area crawling with Rangers fans, it wasn't the Rangers BoD that was in your face every day with a misplaced arrogance and inflated self-worth - it was their fans and I'll admit to taking some petty satisfaction that the worst of social inadequates that latch on to Rangers, yet have been to Ibrox less than I have, are having a bad time of it now. The fact is that there is still an utter lack of humility or contrition from these roasters even now that the extent of Ranger's cheating has been made clear - so hell mend them as far as I'm concerned. It is possible to support a course of action in a logical, sober way - to see the newco in Div 3 in the knowledge of the consequences - and at the same time enjoying seeing some of the dregs of society worrying about what to do on a Saturday outside of marching season

All of this sounds lovely - but in reality - any "uniting" that goes on must be between the diddy clubs and nothing to do with Sevco (or Celtic). This is a once in a generation opportunity to re-calibrate the game in Scotland in such a way that the diddy clubs are run in a completely independent way with little or no reliance on two "institushuns" that would drop the rest of us like a stone if the opportunity to play anywhere else presented itself. The OF will always act in their own self interest and that is often incompatible with the interests of the smaller clubs - so we must not rely on them or factor their continued participation in the SPL as a given. I think the track record of the Non-OF clubs (to use the anachronism) in working together as a coherent bloc is laughable as everyone fought for petty scraps for themselves to the point where the OF could easily divide and conquer. I hope that the main positive outcome of this entire debacle is that the Diddy 40 have demonstrated that when acting together in some way (however imperfectly as we've seen with the SPL & SFL this week), they actually have a significant degree of influence that neither the OF or their apologists can prevent. If all goes to plan, that influence will become concrete with the abolition of the 11-1 voting farce and I think it is vital at that point that the false barrier between SPL and SFL is swept away. To me, it is ludicrous that a Motherwell, Kilmarnock or St Mirren (for example) will often act contrary to the interests of a Falkirk, Partick Thistle or Morton - ie - clubs they have much in common with - just as so as they can hang on the coat tails of 2 clubs that they have nothing in common with at all. Rangers and Celtic explicitly acted together despite their apparent rivalry due to their common interests and I think that the other clubs need to make a concrete effort to do the same to pool resources and to have a bigger voice than they can alone. I would like to see things like joint advertising/commercial deals/sponsorship, reciprocal arrangements for away fans, joint initiatives on building the community side of clubs and anything that secures the clubs without the help of Celtic and Zombie Rangers. There is a short opportunity to get something done and now is the time.

I thought it was difficult to plumb new depths in scaremongering hyperbole after these long months - but by f**k, Regan has managed it against all odds. This level of pish moves on from the intelligence insulting drivel that we've been dealing with into some dangerous territory. The minute we start talking about "unrest", etc (for which there is no factual basis at all), I think it only serves to whip things up further in what is already a tense situation. Utterly irresponsible from the senior exec in Scottish Football to drag the debate to the lowest possible level and the statement makes his position completely untenable.

Is voting in the SFL done by divisions (ie first division clubs only get a say on first division matters) or do the entire SFL get a vote? I understood it to be that it was everyone. Reason I ask is that presumably, a lot of second and third division chairmen would prefer Sevco to pass through their leagues first to get some sort of commercial benefit and so would kybosh the direct entry to the first.

Great post - nae greenies left though... I love to see the Red Top hacks who have benefitted greatly from their cosy wee relationship with Rangers over the years flailing around impotently, looking for someone else to blame. If they hadn't operated like a OF version of Pravda for the past 30 years, then they might have some credibility and some readership outside of the mono-browed thicko demographic that they pander to. If Keith Jackson hadn't made a career out of sycophantic puff pieces and shite Rangers/Celtic transfer rumours, he might have a shred of credibility left after this debacle - but in reality he is left looking like a total tit. Anyone that derides social media of any sort as some sort of minority pursuit or somehow unrepresentative of society is 5 - 10 years out of date with their thinking and the hacks that refuse to embrace it are on their way out as the circulation of the dead tree press goes inexorably down the shiter. By the time one of Jackson's "exclusives" hit the shops now, we all know about it, have discussed it, posted a cheeky GIF or two about it and moved on. Does anyone want to admit that they go to the sports press now as their first source of info or analysis about Scottish football or in any way view what they read in a paper as authoritative? Thought not.

But, but - The Columns! Chick's lovely, incisive columns on the BBC Website! Everything I know about football I learned from reading Chick's insights. So what if they were riddled with cliche, tortured metaphors and inaccuracies - I for one was proud that my license fee helped in some small way to keep that wee bawbag in a job 10 years past his fucking sell-by date

Probably one of the "Decent Rangers Fans" we're always hearing about.

That's about a quid's worth of Lagavulin 16yo being mopped up now ya bastart.

Did my bit today Felt good.

What does a football club's "means" entail if they can't use gate receipts for budgetary purposes? If you can't make projections based on something that a club has detailed records for probably going back decades, I can't really see an alternative when you take TV money out the equation. Pie sales are pretty fluid as well depending on the kick-off being moved for TV and what if people don't like the new strip or the local garage can't afford the hoarding they've had for 5 years.

We have been given a straight yes no vote.

Irn Bru will be delighted - they didn't know they were getting so many fannies for their ad campaign