Buddist Monk
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45 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
The same people that say Ross turned us down despite us just dropping interest when our first choice done a u-turn.
Ross never turned you down because he was never offered a position, despite the desperate knicker flashing in the form of a scummy attempt to tap him up while on holiday by your chairman.
A complete riddy for Dundee all round to be honest, and to try and spin it in any other way is laughable.
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I'm loving the "he's shit and was never offered the job" comments from the same posters who were throwing out the "it's a done deal, no brainer, he's gone"..
Ah, revisionism.
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1 minute ago, Colkitto said:
We were all hoping it would be announced he would be leaving today and waiting for the meltdown. Disappointing.
When the seagulls follow the trawler... etc...
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Seems a bit quiet in here now...
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2 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said:
I think we should be applauding a young Scottish manager for not taking 5 times the amount of money he was on to finish the job he started.
He'll get his big move in the summer/November at the very latest,
That's true, even though I never thought he'd go for the job he has to be applauded for sticking to the same mantra he's been quoting for the last year, rather than make himself a rich man (at least in the short term).
I also believe that the latter is also true, sadly.
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13 minutes ago, GAD said:
It can't be accurate because if it was it would make some people look very stupid and also make Buddist Monk right.
I think I've been proven entirely right throughout all this, some others though have really covered themselves in their own shit; figuratively speaking of course.
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How is the "I told you so" game meant to be played here?
Is there a de facto meme, or do we just go straight to the 'giruy' from the offset.
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32 minutes ago, MacArab said:
If the worst thing that happens to me today is having my posts on P&B picked apart by a pedantic cockwomble, then I’ll be a happy Arab.
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20 minutes ago, MacArab said:
You’re the one who has prematurely described your team as champions way before it is a mathematical certainty, so people in glass houses and all that......
From the same poster who stated, "This is the only thing that could stop you boys cantering over the finish line" when discussing the reactions of the team to the departure of a manager that hasn't gone. That's twice you've contradicted yourself in two posts. Hope the rest of your day turns out better.
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10 minutes ago, MacArab said:
Perhaps Buddist Monk can come out of hiding and offer his eloquent, well informed opinion of who should come in????
Bloody hell, you are like a stalker. One minute you are telling me to go away, next you are begging me to post. Make up your mind, ffs...
As for who should come in? Are you as premature in other facets of your life as you are here?
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If I was Ross I'd be using this as a bargaining tool, not maybe in terms of wages but the available resources if/when* we get promoted. I don't think that is unfair or unreasonable either. If Barnsley are saying you'll get this, this and this, that would presumably be ahead of the planning we have in place just now as it's all been about securing the promotion - not necessarily what happens next. Not that I'm saying people haven't given it thought, but until this sort of situation arises there was no real need (in the short term) to give it any amount of extended consideration.
There is a flip side to Ross genuinely having an affection for the club, in the sense that I can't imagine he'd be happy at putting the club's financial position in doubt just to try and match the offer from Barnsley (or, any other club for that matter).
For me, I still think he'll stay and for the reasons I had mentioned earlier that we don't need to revisit. Interestingly there are sensible long term posters on here who also hold that position, which is comforting to an extent.
* it's when, we all know it's when..
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8 minutes ago, elvis said:
So is he allowed to go speak to them without Saint Mirrens permission.
No.
The problem is if he wants to go. Like a player not wanting to be at a club, it's just a nightmare. So you could be in "the right" but it effecting the club far more than just relenting in the first place.
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3 minutes ago, MacArab said:
.. stuff ..
I'll be gone from this part of the forum in about 6 months..
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1 minute ago, The Moonster said:
If Jack Ross does go to Barnsley, will you be apologising to anyone?
I'll certainly admit I was wrong, I've got no issue with that! I've been wrong loads of times.
The problem with forums is you miss the subtlety of the delivery, so people can look a lot angrier than what they actually are. I guess people have picked that up from my comments. I could fill the place full of emoticons to try and offset that but I just think that makes people look a bit mental.
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1 minute ago, The Moonster said:
I don't think any of that has happened here.
You misquoted me for crying out loud! This for example..
4 hours ago, The Moonster said:You're claiming to know better than everyone because you've watched Jack Ross' interviews.
I never said anything of the sort, what I said was people should at least listen to what the man says day in day out rather than tittle tattle of The Sun.
Do I want to spend time debating the debaters, 'qui disputet conquisitor' as it were? No of course not, but it's difficult not to post 3 or 4 rebuttles when people have blatantly misinterpreted what I said.
Bottom line, if Ross goes I'm happy as the club is back in the Premier. If he doesn't, I'll be happy as we'll have continuity. At this moment it's all win/win for St Mirren fans. Next season will be the nightmare of the shitfest express, leaving from Paisley St James.
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22 minutes ago, The Moonster said:
Humour me. Go on, what do people who said "Jack Ross might fancy the Barnsley job" have to apologise to you for?
I think you'll find many turned to personal insults rather than dealing with the facts, that mixed with numerous misquotes and blatant assumptions. Even in your answer you are misrepresenting the situation.
Listen, I get it, open forum and all that, people get pissy. It's not needed though.
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4 minutes ago, The Moonster said:
Apologies for what?
You really don't know do you?
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I await all the apologies when Ross is not named Barnsley manager.
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1 minute ago, The Moonster said:
This from the man who had a go at somebody else for being condescending yesterday
I'd love for you to point out anywhere in my reply that is condescending. I thought I was being entirely fair, the poster was claiming some dichotomy. It didn't exist.
Just now, 19QOS19 said:Because most managers will have ambitions to move up the ladder rather than stay where they are.
So every manager will take a bigger job no matter what. Doesn't matter the current position they are in, their home life and family, doesn't matter the league position they are going to or the longevity of managers in that league. Absolutely none of that matters.
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8 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
About what?
Like I said no one is being ridiculous about it. Whether you agree with them or not.Two fold, really.
Our own fanbase are notorious knicker wetters. I mean, I love them in a misanthropic manner, but we really we can be our own worst enemy. The idea that as things are going well it's all going to go tits up and a possible link with Ross is given far more weight than it really should.
The other side is fans who have never listened to Ross making huge assumptions. Now just because I've followed his comments doesn't make me an expert on the matter but I'd maybe consider that it provides more of an insight. The whole "well it's money" without actually justifying that is also part of that exasperation.
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7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
And to any manager in this country outwith Aberdeen and the OF I'd imagine.
And you base that on what in particular?
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2 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
No there isn't. It's the absolute bog standard discussion that surrounds any manager or player being linked with a bigger club.
What you have stated is in no way mutually exclusive to my claim.
2 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:You do seem to display a bit of a defensive tone when anyone dares to have a differing opinion from yourself which is fairly odd given the nature of 90% of the comments made on this thread so far.
Exasperated is probably the best word.
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7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
Money aside it's still a no brainer tbh.
To you perhaps.
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27 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:
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I said it's unlikely Barnsley would go for Ross because of the other far more experienced candidates, that is in no way at odds with the assumption that if he continues to do well he'll get linked to championship jobs. Almost the entirety of your post is about proving some conflict in my opinion; having my cake as it were.
All you've done though is correlate. Is Ross capable of managing at that level? Probably. Would teams be interested? Probably. Will there be Championship jobs available in the future? Probably. Is a successful manager going to get linked with them? Probably.
I hope that clears it up a little for you. As for the rest of your post...
"lashing out", that's hilarious. I'm stating the blindingly obvious, and tempering it with what the guy himself has said. I don't see anywhere I have been confrontational or down right rude. So I'm not sure of the validity of this claim.
I have at no point entirely dismissed the possibility.
So, really, I should give you a +1 simply for taking the time and dissecting what is going on here, however I can't because you've misinterpreted (misappropriated/misunderstood, take your pick of the least inflammatory terms) what I have said. Who knows, maybe this is an issue with my communication. I mean I don't feel I have been unclear.
What is entirely clear is that there are an absolute shit ton of people on here who have never listened to a Jack Ross interview in their lives, who are now postulating his moves based on their own grubby desires for more money.
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The European football level St. Mirren FC 2024/25 thread
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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You might think that's what you said, to me it seems to be suggesting Dundee stopped chasing Jack Ross when McCann became available again, when in reality the catalyst for that change was being told "no f**k off".
As for seethe?
Yup, absolutely beelin' you caught me guv.