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  1. 34 minutes ago, TxRover said:

    No, my earlier “False” was a poorly stated objected to an overly sweeping statement that was not absolutely true.

    We'll agree to differ on that point, and not get into semantics about which statement you found "overly sweeping". 

    In any case get a feeling that clubs pushing for a vote on the use of artificial pitches have a different agenda from the one they claim to be pursuing.

  2. 8 hours ago, TxRover said:

    There are a few (very few) jurisdictions where laws have been changed to allow the banning of artificial turf fields, but few have passed. For instance, a recent study (2023) on sports fields shows “…in some areas, school or park officials have announced they will no longer use synthetic fields, but there has been no federal, or even state, ruling against them.”

    The professional sports are trying to reduce the artificial fields, but given some stadiums cannot support natural grass  there are issues. The college level game has always been a bit more tilted to natural grass, mainly because it’s played more in the South, where the climate allows decent fields throughout the season. High School sports are heavily played on artificial surfaces, and there is very little in the way of a push to change it, simply due to costs. Many high schools are in districts that have fewer stadiums than schools…my own district has one stadium and four schools, resulting in a Thursday night and Friday night game while the other two teams have to schedule away matches, except when they play each other.

    The biggest problem right now is disposal of waste materials from removed pitches…but that is also even more true of asphalt shingles and automobile tyres..

    Therefore, from your comments, when you earlier stated 'False' in relation to my original post, you actually meant 'True'.

    You are strongly in favour of artificial pitch use, I'm on the fence and see the arguments. 

    The 'simply due to costs' part above is central to the issue, good grass is better than good artificial (and Raith have the best I've seen), but at crucial points of the year many clubs struggle to provide a good grass surface. Earlier I noted the financial benefits to clubs of operating artificial surfaces, but the present debate is about use in the top league.

    If all clubs get a vote on the issue, which given the structure of the SPFL I think they should, should all clubs have to follow the decision, that is, install artificial surfaces or natural grass playing areas?

  3. 3 hours ago, TxRover said:

    False. Most High Schools, and Junior High School too, play and practice on artificial fields.

    You'll have to clarify that sweeping statement ("False"): I think you've misunderstood what I wrote.  > Noting that the US national "soccer" teams no longer play on any artificial surfaces for a number of health related reasons   The US national sides, both male and female, don't play on artificial surfaces any more. That's a fact.

     

    > I recently read that they have been removed from general use in some states/US counties, not just due to health concerns, but also because of their environmental effect    This is also true, a simple Google search would confirm the fact.

     

  4. Noting that the US national "soccer" teams no longer play on any artificial surfaces for a number of health related reasons, the obvious economics benefits for less affluent clubs using these playing surfaces may well be declared void in future by bodies outside of the football authorities.

    I'm sure I recently read that they have been removed from general use in some states/US counties, not just due to health concerns, but also because of their environmental effect.

    I was swayed after being strongly against them a number of years ago, after seeing the sporting benefits for communities: now I'm not so sure.

  5. 19 minutes ago, adamntg said:

    That was an outrageous booking though.  Well done Colin Steven, in a season of ludicrous refereeing that’s a contender for the worst decision of the lot. 

    Steven would have had to send Chris Hamilton off if he'd given the foul the other/correct way, as he'd already been booked. 

    But that's no excuse for the collective performance of the team.

  6. 15 minutes ago, Shadow Play said:

    You have signed far too many players that are trading on past glory or never to be fulfilled potential (Middleton, Sibbald, Watt, Moult etc).

    Middleton and Watt were signed on ridiculous contracts, which is weighing the club down in a similar manner to Birighitti's deal. Sibbald is OK at this level, and possibly in a bottom six side in the top league. Moult was always a risk, and is clearly limited following his injury earlier in the season: prior to that he was showing up well. He's on a one-year deal, and probably knows, like several others, that he won't be a Tannadice next season. That's a problem and one of the reasons, to my mind, that the players lack motivation when things don't go their way.

    Back to Watt, who I've been critical of in the past. I don't think he was awful last night until he was booked, then he lost any enthusiasm, perhaps through fear of a red card, more likely because he can be sulky when he feels an injustice. 

    Leaving that aside, Goodwin is clearly out of his depth, emphasised by his post game nonsense which contradicted his actions. But United are stuck with him, I'd imagine.

    Never mind, Ogren never saw relegation as an issue, and claimed it's only be one season in the Championship.

    "Go United".

  7. 8 minutes ago, Wee jeemie said:

    The person who should be sacked is the person who gave Goodwin proper contract after he took you guys down

    I keep emphasising, my belief is Goodwin was given a 27 month contract when he took the job in March 2023: and I also maintain he was given the job by Mark Ogren and Tony Asghar, who was still behind the scenes at Tannadice until May last season.

  8. 38 minutes ago, Accent-Unknown said:

    Brighton and Brentford are probably the two most well-run English clubs, at least of the small ones. I wouldn't mind the owners coming in but I do find it odd that they us as the Scottish team they would want to invest in considering our debt and current division. surely a team like... I don't know Kilmarnock? would be a better proposition right now.

    I think Matthew Benham, Brentford, was quoted a while ago as saying United was his "Scottish team", but can't recall where I read that. He certainly made money out of his Midtylland venture, selling on to ASOS (and many other fashion companies) owner Anders Povlsen, who is incidentally one of the richest landowners in Scotland.

    Tony Bloom, who fell out with Benham after being a friend and business partner, may be trying for a bit of one-upmanship: in any case, it's no bad thing if more than one party is interested.

    Another reason for "why us?": Ogren wants out, are the likes of Killie for sale? Perhaps we're at a low ebb, our price presently would be less favourable to a purchaser if we were in Kilmarnock's league position.

  9. 1 hour ago, buchan30 said:

    What was the reason for this?

    Police limited the crowd to 3600, from memory. It was a quarter final, and Stenhousemuir had already put out St Johnstone and Aberdeen, interest was high, and the Warriors held Hibs to a draw at the interval.

    My memories of the game was of Keith Wright being quite physical on George McGeachie who toiled all of the second half, and of thinking Kevin Harper would go on to be a Scotland great.

    Hibs prevailed by four goals, with a couple from Harper. They produced a Murrayfield programme for the event:

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    Fans leaving the ice rink after the match (screenshot from a video):

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  10. 46 minutes ago, Steven W said:

    Just so I know. Was today a big game?

     

    Think they all look like big games now. Goodwin is doing ok, but you wouldn't think so listening to some supporters during the match today. Watt, not my favourite player by any means, was also getting a slagging from some impatient patrons.

    6 minutes ago, RB-Scotland said:

    I was sat right next to that, he kept shouting at him to run and McMann wouldn't, then he gave up and passed it to him, at which point McMann ran.

    That's the way I saw it, and Middleton also looked to be making a lot more effort, checking back and trying to get involved, but his final ball was found wanting too often. Churlish to criticise him though, in my view.

     

  11. Iain McMenemy has done a fine job for the Warriors, especially off the park, and securing Gary Naismith 14 months ago has meant his record on the playing side while chairman will be viewed with fondness.

    Locally, he's helped raise the profile of the club within the community, at a time when many clubs pay such a merit scant attention.

    He's also been open to taking fans' views on board, especially in the matter of 'B-teams', something most football clubs are scared to discuss with their customers. Hopefully the next person in the chair is equally accessible and considerate.

  12. Think Matthew Benham is in the process of selling his controlling interest in Brentford, and has done so with Midtjylland, therefore I'm hopeful he is looking to take on a new challenge. At least if he gets involved at Tannadice, he'll have experience in football, unlike Mark Ogren, who got into football via his errant and now absent fellow director and son Scott.

  13. 9 hours ago, arab_joe said:

    If any Arab fancies watching a slightly cheerier video on YouTube, the wonderful chaps at the Arab Archive have been uploading videos from 2006-07 season - including this Beautiful Sunday:

    Well worth a stroll down memory lane!

    How good were Gomis and Buaben as a central midfield duo - absolutely dominant in the tackle, couple relentless confidence to carry the ball forward time and time again.  Made Kevin Thomson look ordinary.

    Watching that game, I'm wondering why Walter Smith and Craig Levein are sitting side by side in the stand?

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  14. Vale of Leven won the Scottish Cup three seasons in a row, from 1877 to 1879, their last win a replay walkover as Rangers took the huff at a refereeing decision in the first match. Vale forward JC Baird seems to have had his moustache ripped off for some reason, and is being consoled by Alex McLintock, a defender who Burnley later converted into a goalkeeper, such changes not being too unusual in those days. 

    When Dumbarton won the Scottish Cup in 1883, James McAulay was goalkeeper in the first match, but a forward in the replay.

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    Vale of Leven themselves lost out a Cup Final replay in 1884, by a walkover, to Queens Park, as they couldn't raise a team due to injuries sustained in the first match. The Spiders kicked off and ran the ball into the goal unopposed, and were awarded the trophy for the seventh time. They also reached the FA Cup Final the same season.

  15. On 28/02/2024 at 12:13, Eednud said:

    On the last day of February 1914 Arbroath lost 0-3 at home to Forfar Athletic in a Central League match. Forfar jerseys were blue and black hoops back then. Picture from https://www.arbroatharchive.co.uk/matchdetails.php?id=3195

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    I find this type of old photograph fascinating: they often look, as in this case, as though someone has drawn on them in an attempt to improve clarity. 

    On 28/02/2024 at 18:09, ScottyDee1893 said:

    Being a Dundee fan I'll no doubt be accused of bias but there were no dubious decisions in the return leg in Roma that resulted in United's exit. It was proven that the ref did accept something from Roma beforehand but a lot of United fans will agree that it wasn't down to the ref that they lost, in fact they had a couple of opportunities to score early on to go 3-0 up om aggregate but spurned them.

    We'll never know for certain, but I'd tend to agree with you. Ralph Milne certainly passed up on an early chance which he'd normally have netted easily, and I can't recall any really contentious decisions. 

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