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Monkey Tennis

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  1. If we were relegated 5 years ago then the prospects of us going straight back up were alot more slim than they are now reducing the importance of us going down. The fact almost half the league has a chance of promotion come the end of the season makes it alot easier for us to go back up than it was before.

    Well that's debatable.

    Yes, fourth place gives you a chance, where you you used to have to finish in the top two. However, even finishing second now gives you only a relatively slim chance of ultimately getting promoted, where it was once assured.

    As a full-time club who should be among the favourites, you could argue that it's now harder as the margins are finer. If we don't win the league, the chances are, we'll miss out.

    All this optimism just inspires a deeper pessimism for me.

  2. Actual lol. So your shame is the equivalent to your long years of cheating? It may have been on the instruction of a few, but your club and its fans benefited for two decades, depriving other clubs of legitimate chances of competing and forcing many others to spend money on 2nd rate foreigners in desperate attempts to play catch-up.

    Where was your shame when your fellow bears went on the rampage in Manchester?

    Where was your shame when your club was repeatedly fined for sectarian chants?

    Where was your shame when your club refused to sign a Catholic for 100 years?

    You have no shame, because if you did, you wouldn't support such a vile institution. You wouldn't support a club which proudly stands for exclusion, bigotry and racism. Your supporters groups bleat about bigoted singing as being the acts of a minority, but where has the criticism been from the majority? Conspicuously absent, because it is the case, as everyone else knows, that such singing is condoned by EVERYONE in the Ibrox ranks, no matter their age, gender or upbringing.

    And still, after all the fines, after all the cheating, the singing and the fraudulent schemes, you still fail to show a semblance of dignity, or of guilt. Not a single Rangers fan can provide a genuine reason as to why your stinking carcass of a club should be saved.

    You don't understand why your club is so despised by the supporters of others. You can't understand why someone would choose to support their local team over the famous Glasgow Rangers.

    You cheated your way to title after title, trophy after trophy, award after award. And you want us to think the club has suffered enough because of the "shame?"

    You are right on one thing though - I probably would feel pity for any other club in similar circumstances. But your club is a vile, racist and bigoted organisation, a stain on society and a cause of division and violence for many.

    You won't be missed.

    Excellent post.

    The point is that yes, many of us would feel sorry for fans whose club had been run by such dastardly people.

    It's Rangers though, the uglier of the sisters. The only possible, rational response is to delight in their squirming.

    The behaviour of the club is utterly consistent with everything we know about those the club appeals to.

    The triumphalism we all endured turns out to have been based on systematic cheating. Of course we want that redressed.

    It's usually sad when football clubs are run into trouble, but this is Rangers. Rangers are different for all the reasons outlined above, which is why our response is different.

  3. There are a variety of reasons why OF domination was restored in the 1990s after the 1980s gave a window of greater challenge, and TV money (domestic+European) is only one, and only really began from 1998. Bosman is another, as is OF harnessing crowds of 40-50-60k, as is their harnessing of merchandise and sponsorship. It's also a myth that we've only got 4x playing due to TV.

    IMO it remains to be seen whether Rangers collapsing and starting again really will mean another period of competitiveness, or whether Celtic will just dominate alone instead.

    All true, all perfectly true.

    As Jim Spence attempted to explain to an uncomprehending Chick Young the other day though, it makes no difference to Diddy fans if either of Celtic or Rangers dominate; or if they share the trophies between them equally. In each case, it's just more trophies for the OF.

    As you acknowledge yourself, a Rangers collapse might change that, or it might not. If it doesn't we're therefore no worse off.

    Bring on the collapse I say.

  4. Maybe that's because the other teams jealous of their popularity and finances wanted half the 'gate money' at Parkhead & Ibrox .... money that doesn't belong to them?

    In the interests of 'fairness' then

    Every team gets to keep their home receipts - fair

    Every team gets to negotiate their own TV deals for their home games

    Every team pays a fee for the SPL administrators and SFA. (makes them independent),

    Cup games are split (less admin costs)

    Above board and fair ...

    But you know that's a non starter as the only games you could guarantee to sell to TV would be the ones against Celtic or Rankers.

    That's a fact ,....

    But none of that's remotely fair.

    Would it be ok if you went away please?

    You appear to be damaging an excellent thread by talking utter pish without realising it.

  5. Well pleased with the latest signing news, as has been said already we have got the best of last years senior players signed up plus our best youngsters. A few new faces and a decent pre-season and we should hit the ground running.

    A few early wins under the belt will attract people to come through the turnstyles, which creates a better atmosphere and pushes the team on even more.

    Relegation can be a positive effect on Queens and with a bit of luck we can come back up at the first time of asking. It did no harm to Ross County when they fell to Div2 a few seasons ago.

    Looking forward to 2012/13.bigsmile.gif

    Christ, we seem to have our very own Foxbarton.

  6. Still not overly enthused by the apparent attempt to sign most of last season's team.

    Remember, that team finished 6 points behind Ayr. Who in turn lost to Airdrie. Who in turn finished below Arbroath.

    I share your concerns, but I've never really thought of it in quite those terms before.

    That is indeed a kind of worrying way to look at it, so I think I'll adopt it as my own.

  7. Happy enough with those signings - particularly Robinson's.

    Happy also with the idea that they're the last among those getting retained.

    Thanks also to Mr X for driving the thread round in a van. This is the best place for it, even though I still just found myself looking absent mindedly in 1st Division land for it.

  8. No, I want this thread transferred as it is.

    It can serve as a reminder to us of an era when we whined and whinged about a higher class of football.

    We, the fans will move downstairs with the club so our pointless bickering, nostalgic wheezing and irrelevant pontificating should accompany us. We're not a Newco FFS.

    I want the baggage - who's with me?

  9. Nope.. Higgins and McGuffie are two that should stay, doubt there are many better CB's in Div 2.

    You're maybe right.

    I just fear that we're hoping a lot of players who came up well short in division 1 will somehow excel in division 2.

    Now I accept that midfield, rather than defence was our weakest area last season. I also recognise the argument that suggests the gap between divisions 1 and 2 is the biggest because it tends to mark a notional FT / PT cut-off. Play-off outcomes wouldn't necessarily support this argument however.

    Remember, that we're explicitly aiming to win the division next season. That means our players needn't merely cope in division 2, but must instead be capable of dominating. I know that world-beaters won't be available and that some players will be worth clinging onto. I do however detect a belief among Queens fans that this drop of a division will see us suddenly become very good in relative terms and I'm not sure that it's that valid.

  10. 28,366 replies :o

    It's all about the Rangers 8)

    Yes, yes it is.

    I'll happily admit to being obsessed by Rangers and the urgent necessity of their death.

    If it makes you feel better to think that your club matters a great deal to the rest of us, then that's nice.

    Your club really really matters because they've been very successful domestically due to the huge financial advantages they enjoy. The fact that they seem to have been cheating to exaggerate these advantages further, therefore provokes huge interest.

    OF fans need the status of their club mattering it seems.

    You win Bennett.

    Rangers are important,

    as was smallpox at one time.

  11. Lee Robinson is a good wee keeper, ever time we played Queens he played really well. Even saved a late Mark Millar penalty and then was unlucky to concede from the resulting corner.

    That goal was actually one of only two or three I'd fault him for last season. I can think of far more incredible saves he made and he commanded his box well.

    I really grew to like Robinson this season and I'd be very sorry to see him go. Perhaps his eccentricities in appearance and penchant for forward runs has cost him in terms of reputation. I don't think it's cost his teams much though.

    Hope he does well elsewhere - he's a talented chap in my view.

  12. That is truly staggering! blink.gif

    And what's more, 3 people have "liked" the comment!!! blink.gifblink.gifblink.gif

    That's what I'm enjoying about it.

    It's clearly impossible to post something so utterly, laughably bonkers that others will disagree with it.

    I'm starting to think there's a competition going on. The first to post something so outrageously paranoid and demented that others object, wins a prize. That prize is now absolutely massive, following thirteen weeks of rollovers.

  13. No, we have had all blue before. The last time I think was the year D&G Constabulary won it in 98. I'm not a fan of all blue. The away kit is okay and we had a couple black and white away kits in the 80's.

    The D&G Constabulary one had white socks though. This one will be all blue, a colour scheme I don't recall as our regular kit at all. We did wear all blue in the Cup Final of course though.

  14. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo

    reached the end of the thread................ you lot need to post more

    What are people's reading habits with regard to this thread?

    I know some claim to have read every page - a remarkable achievement.

    Personally, I'd have loved to have managed that, but I'm not even close. When I was off work over Easter, I tended to be on top of things, but otherwise, work gets in the way. I don't get much chance to look on at work and by the time I get home, there's usually too much to catch up on. I tend to go back 7 or 8 pages, than catch up and monitor it for the evening. This means there are huge gaps for me and I'm not proud of it. Most of our family rows these days centre on the time I spend on this thing. The argument that I'm only really a part-timer who rarely posts doesn't seem to wash.

  15. Wonderful though this thread is, I don't think we should overlook the contributions made on a daily basis by those fine fellows on RM.

    Today's Churchillian attempt is just a belter. As someone said, it really could be a P&B spoof, but sadly, tragically actually, it's not.

    Where, seriously where the Hell, does this notion of 'dignity and honour' come from? I know of no club anywhere with a less honorable past.

    The call for a General Strike is just delicious.

    Even better though is the response. They all love it. One guy wishes he could write like that, a bit like envying Steven Hawkings' charleston.

    I honestly do believe that what makes this so great, is simply that the vast bulk of the Rangers support is composed of people who are ever so thick.

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