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Jane Lewis ‏@JaneLewisSport #Fifa confirm that they've spoken to the #Sfa over the #Rangers situation. Talks will continue and they hope to release a statement today.

That was before they went and stuck 2 fingers up at the judicial panels and to the SFA by running to the CoS. Now there seems to be alot more anger boiling up towards the cheating b'stards.

Still plenty to talk about, after all today is June 1st which means Rangers players go back to full pay and can trigger clauses in their contracts with the admin to leave for 25% of their true value. Running costs will have just sky rocketed again.

Based on the fact that expulsion from the Scottish Cup would be too lenient and a fine would be a complete waste of time with them being in administration, then there are only 2 other options suspension or expulsion. With anger at Rangers in Scottish football at boiling point, the SFA has moved closer to booting the beleagured club out of the game. (The Daily Record) The Ibrox club, must either accept the original 12-month transfer ban or risk being banned form Scottish football. (The Daily Mail) Just a few quotes that are being branded about.

Yes - but on the page showing the costs for various outcomes CVA has admin total at £5.5million - I assume the BBC are using these figues (ie: the total bill, rather than the bill so far).

Does anyone know if Rangers can ignore the CoS ruling themselves and choose to take the 12 month transfer embargo (if the SFA allow them to)? That's the only way I can see them getting out of this without a suspension - but then you have to consider an added punishment for taking the case to the CoS as well.

I think the point the OP was making was that it was the Rangers Admin Guy who can't count. The BBC said it was around 10 times the original amount at £5.5 million (£500k in the e-mail). Duff & Duffer went on to say Where I'm from £5.5million is definitely more than 10 times £500k so the BBC got it's figures right. Duff & Duffer are obviously implying that their fees are not £5.5million. Edit: Craigkillie beat me to it.

It had the added bonus of pissing off Green, who doesn't want to put his money where his mouth is until he knows exactly what sanctions he's dealing with.

Surely Stewart Regan has 2 ideal excuses here - 1) - that he has no influence over the independent panel who decided the previous judgement and will review it and 2) - that given RFC decided to go down the CoS route the judgement points out that they MUST ONLY use the punishments that they have available and not make one up. Exit stage left for Green me thinks!

I see FIFA Vice President Jim Boyce is quoted as saying:- Meanwhile, Boyce also made it clear that if Rangers are expelled by the SFA they could not move to join another association. He said: “I’ve read this rubbish for years that Rangers and Celtic could play in England. Under UEFA and FIFA rules this simply can’t happen.” (Daily Record) So if the SFA do suspend or expell Rangers they will be well and truly fecked!!

Standing up against Rangers cheating B'stards. Spineless B'stard.

AFAIK Rangers cannot sell season tickets while still in administration - something to do with taking money for games that there is no guarantee will take place -if they were to do this and then go into liquidation Haudit and Daudit would be liable for refunding all the season ticket holder money and I somehow doubt they'd be up for that.

It was said last night that the main creditors HMRC and Ticketus have the right to ask for more time to consider the CVA offer, surely this then screws up Green's timescale for introducing a NEWCO in time for the season commencing. It was mentioned on Newsnight that these 2 main creditors would surely need to know the exact details of all pending cases which may increase the CVA pot or decrease the CVA pot before making a judgement on whether to accept or decline the CVA offer.

I think the admins fees have already been deducted by that stage Marrez - but it all depends on the secured or preferred creditors making a claim against the funds - I think there are 4 including Whyte, Close, Sport Scotland and someone else. No monies left as far as I can see, either way.

I had no idea Green's money was in the form of a LOAN!!! What a crook (or should that be Crock?) and they're only getting the money of the sanctions don;t make it any jarder for them to remain in the current leagues and competitions? WTF? Am I reading this bit correctly? Any money coming in goes to SERVCO/Green but any costs for running for the next 3 months come out of the CVA account - expected at £3 million? Again WTF?

A wee bed each for Murray and Whyte, how cosy!!

Yeah plenty of cock sucking but if the SPL and SFA don't apply the rules for this little outing at the Court of Session then I'm sure FIFA or UEFA will apply pressure to make sure Rangers are dealt with properly.

Is this quote from QC Richard Keen not utter bollocks:- Mr Keen said an appeal tribunal held to review the original SFA decision had heard the suggestion that Rangers had a squad of more than 40 players. However, he said 25 of those players were aged 18 or under. Pretty sure Rangers have more than just 15 players over the age of 18 surely.

Just been listening to Paul Clark on Radio Scotland "It's too early to state a pence in the pound value" (since they don't know the outcome of the litigation against CW & his lawyers) Thought that was the whole point of a CVA? How can you even issue a CVA without setting a minimum amount each creditor will receive? This entire administration is total bonkers.

Apologies if this has been covered in the intervening pages (I'm still catching up since last night). Rangers did profit from this - taking the example above, the employee pays tax and NI contributions, the employer also pays Employer NI contributions - someone estimated earlier that the amount on Employer NI alone on the £50millon paid into the trust works out at around £14million. Even if you assume that the employee should pay back the Tax and NI that he gained from not paying (which is rubbish as the employer is responsible for deductions before payment in this country) RFC still gained by not paying the Employer contributions.

Am I the only one who didn't swallow the 'prince Albert' bit? (no jokes please, too obvious). I thought it much more likely that Ellis was making this up to make it look like he had a genuine reason for introducing Whyte to the board - he came across as a right slimy character & I thought he was just using this to make himself appear in a better light (Gee, look folks, he duped me too!)

From today's Telegraph.....more bad news for the Bears

....but to get it right, you have to say it with that Weegie accent - not 'bears', more 'berz'.

Couldn't help laugh at the rantings of some Rangers twat in the Evening Times today in response to last nights appeal hearing:- THURSDAY 17 MAY 2012 TEXT SIZE Fans' chief: Rangers must fight SFA ban to ends of the earth Alison McConnell Football Writer RANGERS fans' chief Andy Kerr today urged the club to fight the legalities of the SFA's transfer embargo to the ends of the earth. And in a stark warning, Kerr also insisted that the Ibrox support will mobilise themselves to ensure the ramifications of the ban will be felt by ALL SPL clubs. Kerr said: "There is widespread anger among the Rangers fans, as you can well imagine. We will take a stand now." Last night's decision by a three-man appeal body to uphold the original punishment of a 12-month transfer embargo on players over the age of 18 has been met by a furious response from the Rangers support and Kerr has warned that they will not take the decision lying down. Rangers' administrators were today weighing up their options but look certain to take legal action against the SFA, possibly in civil courts or the Court or Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland. Several first-team stars have cut-price get-out clauses in their contracts after agreeing to wage cuts and, should they activate them and leave, Gers would be unable to sign replacements. Already, Everton are eyeing a swoop for Steven Naismith, who has a £2million trigger release. The Rangers Supporters' Assembly will now: *Lobby the club to withdraw from the Scottish Cup next season. *Plan to boycott all away games. *Put pressure on sponsors. *Call for Rangers players to withdraw from the Scotland squad to face the USA in Florida later this month. Kerr added: "We feel that while our circumstances are unique, they are not exceptional, yet the SFA seem to be focused on making some kind of an example here. "There have been other clubs this season who have not been able to pay the wages of their players, yet there has been very little in the way of punishments handed out for that. Ultimately, we have to do what we think is the best course of action now. "We met when the SFA first announced the transfer embargo and had preliminary discussions about what to do. But at the time we felt we were jumping into it too quickly, and we wanted to wait and see whether or not common sense would surface at an appeal. "That hasn't been the case and the club need to take this fight all the way. They have to challenge this tooth and nail. "The body of opinion is definitely behind taking the players out of the national team, although personally I would have to say that I am cautious about pushing for such a thing because it isn't particularly fair that the international career of a player is hampered because of this situation. "But at the same time, if Allan McGregor or Lee Wallace or Steven Whittaker get injured when they are playing for Scotland, how do we replace them?" Kerr also believes that the whole of Scottish football will be punished because of the embargo. He added: "When Rangers signed Steven Naismith from Kilmarnock, the sale went a long way to ensuring that the Rugby Park club did not go into administration. "There are lots of players in the SPL that I am sure Rangers will have been looking at, and the bottom line is that buying these guys from other Scottish clubs benefits the game. "If you take that out for a year then I am sure there will be one or two clubs who will feel it. "The Rangers support need to do everything within their power to make a stand now. "We are bitterly disappointed at the decision to uphold the embargo ... but it is not finished yet."

Forgot about that Tosser. He seriously needs to speak to someone as he quite obviously has lots of issues.