MrDust

I was gonna quote in previous post that I wont be surprised if Martin Richie is not there......an heyho he isnt gonna be there...... I still feel, I will be coming out of the meeting still wanting to bang my head against a brick wall

Add in a five year plan..... I wasnt going to go as these things usually end up nicey nice or are called at a halt when it gets too much, but I am going to go as this one maybe interesting and may get as bitter as it was in those meetings with Fulston many years ago

As much as I can agree with your summarise of the players, Im guessing Flynn, Haworth and Leahy wont be on peanuts. Flynn was offered terms to stay with County and two players coming from England wont be cheap in the relocate scenario in regard to wages Tatics are not helping the matter, for me we have confused the players, failed a dangerous shot on a poor Rangers side at home, tho had Elvis stating we controlled the game. The fact is like yesterday, we have defence and midfield as one unit, huge gap then forwards, which has got better as we now have two. My own opinion is that with all the fangled formations and losses have brought the morale of the players down, we are in a hell of a mess in which only a change at the moment at the top will change that, Elvis for me has turned into a Yogi clone, his way or your out which is required but within limits. We seen last season him encouraging the younger players, now he doesnt, they still need it from the top as well as from us....Im not fully flattered with the coaches either, I must be one of the few who dont mind Smith but Crawford on match days stands still and watches, McFarlane shouts random pish which is bad comedy, its a mess but a more experienced manager would do much better with what we have got Take Jim Jefferies whom I rate as the best manager in the league, he has good contacts and has perhaps bought wisely to his requirements in which Dunfermline will run Partick close if not win it this season I hope not as I have my bets on Partick and Falkirk !!! Jefferies will also play to attack and I guess in most cases 4-4-2. I for one dont think formations will win you the league at this level but formations on a bad level can cost you your job. Im heading to see Tranmere v Brentford next week, Ronnie Moore old school manager has always believed in 4-4-2, simple two wingers and two strikers which was similar to Jefferies when he was with us......joy of joys and Im stealing Farid's coin

Pretty much covers my thots on the interview...... Also Im sure the figures were 500k soft loans paid over 10yr.......last season we had 400k in transfer fees, bonuses with Arfield promotion, dunno if bonus included Higgy and Wallace and add Ramsden cup win, Celtic Semi which would have seen at least 600k coming in last season which shouldnt really be on our budget I wasnt convinced on his four coaches answer, I dont know if anyone can confirm but I am sure we have other coaches who are not in the dug out during games..... Plus side tho, its good to see that they are not happy with the start and not hiding when performances have been poor, still wouldve liked a question regarding Leahy as we cant afford to sign players on 2yr contracts to not be outside the match day squad

I dont think any of us are thinking that scenario......but Sunday was clueless as it has been so far, there seems to be unrest in the squad again, two wonder goals, a lucky goal and a penalty tis not good so far if we are having to rely on wonder goals, flukes and penalties to score Next five games will kinda tell us a hell of a lot more.....good form we would be looking at 12pts, current form 7pts and perhaps being generous of which I fully expect us to lose to one of the Cowden, Airdrie or Dumbarton games at the moment Its all so much like two seasons ago, shite formations, defence looking like no one knows each other and a midfield that is far to defensive.....The Elvis management learning curve has went back to step 1 again.......

Fukn helll.....he played for Scotland.......

Rangers were not up to much last nite, If we had that same team as then last nite, we wouldve won easily last nite in my opinion.... We are sitting in too deep, far to slow and defensive at the moment to cause any teams danger at the opposite end... We are pissing in our own pants at the moment with this formation and tactic set up...... I feel sorry for the players as its making them look a lot worse than they actually are......

We are needing a bastard in midfield who is willing to shout at folk, kick people and we also need to sort out this formation which we started with under Elvis's first season in the 1st div, only for him to change 6 weeks or so in when it failed then...... 2 league games and one testing cup tie we can judge as where we are = 1 goal in which Taylor had no right to score that goal We could still be playing now and wouldnt have scored from last nites game The Elvis post match interview is also a joke.....according to Elvis We Pressurised Rangers, took the game to Rangers For long periods controlled the game We didnt get result our performance merited better performance than last time we played Rangers Agressive football, lots of crosses from fullbacks which we didnt make the most off Patient football we turned into goalscoring opportunities, the type of football I want to see Sorry I mustve been at a different game......Fight was greater but thats about it.......

Our best results so far seem to be playing the ball directly and over the top to infront of Taylor instead of wide and crossed over.... This plays to Taylors strengths and his goal on Saturday showed that, not to knock the wide ball played in... I cant see us changing much from Saturdays formation, perhaps Dale Fulton dropping out I did fancy the 5 in midfield but feel that we cant do the 3 at the back and any formation of 4 1-2-3-2-2--1-1-1 formation is stil 4-5-1 no matter how you look at it unless your pushing two wide players to support the attack like we did under Yogi.... Its all early days, I remember Raith away last season, I thot we would have many games like that, we really didnt look back after that day its all too early to see where we are....... I still feel its a new team in which we still have to mould what the teams best strengths are, that said I think Millar is a bigger miss than Farid so far.......

Why ? edit - just checked and seen The Rangers game at weekend prior is on Sunday....St Mirren are playing the Wednesday, so perhaps thats the reason why......

The same scenario applies to majority of the SPL clubs, perhaps not fully this season but next when Sky wont renew the tv deal..... We now seem to be in a decent cash flow situation helped with the league cup semi and players sales of last season and I reckon we have now got our budgets into place that we dont require to sell a player each year to break even. I am sure lessons have been learnt over the last few years with SPL wages players in div 1, large paypackets within the club too, no employment tribunals costing six figures and no pushin our budget over the limit in January as we probably did every season bar last for the last 5 yr or so The Academy tho is now beginning to reap rewards, something I remember you wanted scrapped when you supported Falkirk. If we have a productive season this year, I feel Duffie maybe the next to move on and on the showings against Bolton with a mere youth team for 30-40 mins, we do have few others that will step in and shine this year and onwards The business model 2011 we have at Falkirk has it flaws but seems to be on the right track......can you say that about the majority of the SPL clubs if there is no Sky deal......??? Coz yes means more pain......

In traditional SPL style the changes to structure and promotional places were somewhat not fully above board but lets be honest that the extra promotion place(s) to the top league wont really effect 20+ off the 30 clubs in Scotland in the SFL Also its interesting that 2 or 3 of the yes votes came from previous SPL members.......

If you read the statement, then it details one....... A need for change......None of us know the ins or outs of the whole scenario regarding the sweetners for votes but play offs and and a bigger SPL were touted. The FFC board statement ploughed through that if in 3 year time we still have one up one down, then perhaps we have missed an opportunity to fast track a change to the structures of the game. I personally dont think play offs in leagues of 10 are right but I cant deny it keeps the two other leagues going till usually the last game of the season.. Ps I hope you got a bridie today.....

I personally think in regards to stories that it was George Craig being careless and yes Martin Ritchie letting him do so were to blame for that episode but slowly that has been corrected The statement release reads maybe.......it stands by neither yes or no and suggests that it is both yes and no..... For what Ive heard, I believe its yes and with today's as expected and predicted no show of vote points towards yes..... Simples really....... Reveal we voted yes = minority fans who are beiling at the moment create more than a hissy fit and perhaps drag more into their camp Reveal we voted no = everyone is happy...... Onwards and upwards for me as Ive stated from the start, roll on the season so we can get on with what matters most.......

To quote the Hives...."Hate to say I told you so"........ We were never ever going to hear a straight yes or no from the board of which it does concern me but not as much where the facts stand that it hasnt changed a jot to our season, players and starting division members If the disclosed decision had made a difference, then I am sure the minority of fans who are up in air wouldve became the majority. You will struggle to find a Falkirk fan who is happy if we voted yes(of which I am sure we did).... but we all have our way with dealing with that of which I respect all. I can see why the club voted yes and the statement kinda shows that with the Rangers promotion in three years and having no changes in our league that we have missed a chance for that change of which wouldve been done hastily SPL style. The bigger picture is Scottish fitba is fecked, things like this dont help but we could find ourselves promoted this season or next season and miss more tv money in the SFL due to the Newco as the SPL SKY deal I am sure runs out this coming season As I say I understand those who are aggrieved, I am too in a lesser fashion but our club has tried to act like the SPL in this vote, only that it hasnt got the same twisted power the SPL clubs have and have fell flat on their faces

He wasnt good enough for us.......He can cross a ball and lives off that one free kick goal v Hamilton which somehow related he takes a good freekicks... One point tho which may ease the diss attitude here is that in my opinion his best game for Falkirk was an away game he started v Stirling Albion. He was easily the best player on the park that day by a mile, so perhaps a step down a league may help him

Flip that around again find me a supporter that is happy if we voted yes....... I think the key area is that whatever the vote maybe, it hasnt changed a jot if it was yes or no..... Yes the majority if not all of fans are unhappy if it is a yes vote, but the fact is it doesnt alter anything football wise. We do have disappointed fans with some more than others who of course may take stronger actions, which obviously effects the club, but overall I dont see it effecting the club much with what I have predicting is that the board will stand behind the secret ballot and not reveal how they voted. If the yes vote had made a difference then we may have seen a different siege mentality with the majority of the fans looking for answers and hundreds wanting serious answers with further actions to follow......at least I like to think that,but the TFS has lost the scary Brockville effect in which we could get managers/boards out and perhaps thats why I have mellowed too...... All in all, I will be glad for the real stuff to start in which the only banging my head off the wall will be because of the team on the park

Buying a Gary Glitter CD doesnt make me a paedophile, to bring the same slant right back..... I can see why the club may have voted yes, I dont agree with it but I can see why albeit we all knew the outcome of the vote ala the SPL one

As I mentioned earlier and fully expect that to continue.... If those that are in disgust with the decision of the either the no show of how they voted or the fact they just expect they voted yes, then take it up with the club, I do sympathise with you in that manner that you feel strongly enough albeit over a vote either way has made no difference. I am sure you wont get the answer you want from the club but it beats going on about it here as like the decision/vote it wont make any difference The whole Rangers/newco episode which is still ongoing is tiresome, why we have become attached to it when we know who we are playing this Saturday, which league we are in and who against till May. The real business starts this Saturday, support the team or dont or even go down the other route of supporting Raith, Clyde or Glasgow University if you wanna be the phantom farter.......

Perhaps the good start and scoring when McManus was off perhaps gave us false hope, that said It was a friendly an very open at that, no nasty tackles to get it like it was a real competitive game. These games are about gelling and fitness, that said defence over gelled and it was very loose, It is going to be interesting to see what defence will line up over the season, last season we started I think with Dodds and Bennett and ended with Dodds and Wallace. Its only one game but I am not too sure with the Murdoch and Fulton middle pairing, Fulton has all the skill in the world but at times needs space to actually show that, my thinking was perhaps a tweaking of the formation so that we could have three in the middle with Sibbald in there, Sibbald has a quicker brain for me That said Middlesboro prob have two players on money out there that would pay 8,9 or 10 of our first 11. The wee cant McDonald was always gonna score, the same mould as Boyd as they always score against us, he is never always in favour down there and would walk into every team bar maybe Celic up here.. Im not too concerned after today, the players will learn from today and outside the Partick game we have a good start with Elgin and Stirling A to get into the mode for the season....A good goalscorer can make all the difference in this league and hopefully Taylor takes that into the real season....

Nail on the head with that point....... nobody wanted it when they took over and the state Scottish fitba is in now, no one would take it over now....... I personally blame a hell of a lot of it on George Craig, He was the MD when we were throwing money all over the place and placing our budgets on finishing 7th and above....We became a product of the bad that is the SPL The end of the day I support the team on the park........ I dont do the politics unless it affects me and the yes vote doesnt. I am a fan of the town and my club, mismanagement has happened but we are not alone and not in a critical state ala Hearts, Motherwell, Dunfermline, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock and Dundee Utd all of whom owe millions and will probably never be in the black again in my lifetime without administration/liquidation..... 13hours from now I will be at my happiest, as I feel the season starts tomorrow for us, there is a cup at stake...... Support the team or dont.....that is your choice.....

Yep, The 1st div is crying out for another promotion place, may it be via play off or automatic. A restructure was put on the table with play off place and yes to probably help that newco would surely at least get back in via one of them. We then wouldve had a league that had at least two chances of the SPL. Our league last season was over by xmas in my opinion, throw a similar position of play offs in each other league and we may have had some excitement Jan - May for 40% of our league An yep, Rangers perhaps wouldve ended up either winning the 1st or in the play offs at least if they were granted permission to play in the 1st, but ask Dundee fans about buying the league, its not that easy. I dont think we wouldve been in with a real chance with Rangers and Dundee in league, but without either we have albie with only the one position up for grabs, which is a bad joke which wont change soon..... As for fans boycott, I think we are down to the hardcore of fans at every club nowadays and its minority of fans that will boycott, none of my mates are concerned, feck all has changed.........The end of the day if our club is doing well, our numbers will soon be greater than of the ones that choose to boycott as the large portion of our fans vote with the performance on the pitch I dont expect the club to reveal how they voted, they will hide behind the secret ballot and the fact that nothing has changed on how they voted but fair play if you feel strongly enough on it but nothing has changed........

Harm our club ??? The only harm in it for me is a handful of fans being unhappy over our alleged option of voting yes (I do believe we voted yes) of which has made no difference and with the vote going against our alleged yes I would question that its done more harm If Rangers were in the 1st division I am sure it was quoted as there being 1 automatic promotion and one play off place, now we have struck it lucky with Dundee being promoted as we have more of chance of the top spot but still down to one place, this season, next season and the near future as the SPL wont be as forthcoming again..... The whole scenario of it stinks, Newco, voting etc......but I will be glad when the real action begins on the park.......And yes I am glad Rangers are in the 3rd division......

I'm train booked for the Brentford game, Cowdenbeath away or a 9hr drink fuelled train journey to see my other team.....hmmmm I book it the weekend I am on the wagon too......!!!

Martin Richie will always be a bumbling type of character in my eyes, his mannerisms point towards that mainly and the two relegations whilst he has been chairman dont help, nice enough bloke tho and I will probably be a drunken arse in his eyes and maybe nice bloke too..... My take on most of his era as chairman is that George Craig signed and ticked monies away of which a lot was backed by Sandy Alexander which put us in the mess we got ourselves in with sponsors going bust and flirting with relegation, then eventually getting relegated season after. George Craig has gone and we tightened up our ship and now have a good balance on our incomings and outgoings which was never there before as we had ourselves banking on finishing 7th in the SPL and rolling the cashcow which comes from that This perhaps is part of the bumblings I go on about with Martin Richie, as our chairman, I dont think he was as active until it was too late, but credit is due that we have now turned a corner and now seem to be onwards and upwards Everyone has their right to stop supporting a team physically in my eyes but you should never lose that mentally when you have put in a number of years child to adult, lets see how many Rangers supporters go and support Celtic now that things havent went how they like it...... Why tell mainly Falkirk fans on the Falkirk thread you'd rather visit Clyde or Raith then....???