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22 hours ago, glensmad said:
To be fair, with two weekends in a row with all of the league fixtures wiped out, there hasn't really been much to talk about.
Never held you back in the past, but hopefully with the worst of the weather now behind us it will be a resumption of normal service.
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Never known so little activity on this thread. Has Glensmad gone on holiday again?
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Thanks for info about Matt Cummings. I have passed it on. He has good memories of his time with Bo'ness but just wanted a reminder of what he had achieved while there. It was sixty years ago after all, others here are complaing of their memory playing tricks after just ten years!
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Back with another request, last night I was doing a talk for a church mens group in Kincardine and I was speaking to a former Bo'ness player. His name is Matt Cummings and he played in the late 1950's up front, either centre forward or outside right (that takes you back!). He was quite successful, scoring quite a few goals but had a leg break from which he apparently did not make a full recovery and eventually left the club. He reckons a young striker came in, he thinks from Kilsyth St Patricks, a juvenile club, who was scoring freely and went on to play for Peterborough. His name may have been Reilly, any further information?
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15 hours ago, ROSS-THISTLE-76 said:
Would take him back to Rossvale in a heartbeat.Adam makes his statement on the park, he dosn't need anyone else to broadcast it to world.
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14 hours ago, king Henrik7 said:
For me Gary Smith is the best striker in the league. His goals per game ratio is frighteningAdam Forsyth is by far the best striker in the league,
Who told me?
His Dad!
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710 goals scored in championship so far this season. With almost a third of games still to play can it reach 1000?
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1 minute ago, Jambo'ness said:
Great all-round performance today. Like watching a different team just now. Prentice is like a new player, so much more confidence and effectiveness. The same can be said for Ryan Stevenson too.
Dougie is having an indian summer just now and it's good to see.
For MOTM, I have to go with Michael Gemmell, he won absolutely every ball he went in for and drove the side forward in the first half especially.
Good to see Nicky Prentice doing well, he was outstanding at Killsyth and looked a certainty to get picked up by a senior club. Still time for hime to get there. Send him back if you like!
PS just realised that Bo'ness now are a senior club.
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1 hour ago, iPhone said:
Lol, you’re cracking up under the pressure, just like your whole team hahaha.
Another season in the same league...
Not a bad thing as yous wouldn’t pick up a single point.
Well we beat Irvine Meadow easily enough and gave Hurlford a game earlier in the season so I think your statement has little merit. Agreed our current form is not nearly good enough and we accept (or almost all Kilsyth fans do) that we will be in the same division and visiting Darvel, Whittlets, St Roch, et al, next season. No point in forecasting what will happen to teams at our level a year from now as things can change so rapidly. Who would you have said would do better in the Premier at the end of last season, Petershill or Meadow? Just look at how it has turned out.
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13 hours ago, Standalone said:
Correct with Harry Pinkerton.
Your question may be an easy one for a Kilsyth man, but I'll have a go.
Alex Queerie. Scored four goals in the final in 1955, I think he scored them all with headers. He was the first to do so in a final at Hampden until Puscas equalled it in 1960. Scored record amount of goals (18) in Scottish Cup run for one season. How's that for a Bo'ness man?
Very good, the third record is that he also scored in every round of the competition. We had no byes that year so nobody could beat that although it may possibly have been equalled. It is a common misconception that all four goals were headers, one was a rather lucky knock in from close range but they all count. There is film of the final, it is on a dvd called Glory Days and it the oldest known colour footage of Hampden as it was in its full glory before its redevelopment into the rather soulless arena that it is now.
If you ever visit the museum at Hampden they will let you view it by arrangement .
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A question for you, probably an easy one. What three scoring records does a former player of Bo'ness hold in regard to the Scottish Junior cup?
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20 hours ago, Standalone said:
As you are enjoying this thread so much, here is question for you.
Which player played with Kilsyth ( probably in 46-47 games you refer to) came to BU's and won a Scottish Junior Cup medal the following season.
Clue, he was a Kilsyth man.
I reckon that would be Harry Pinkerton, he had come to us from Falkirk at the beginning of that season and scored 11 goals. There is no record of him being with us the following year so my first thoughts were that it might have been him. However I cheated and by looking up the Bo'ness team in the final in Tom Purdie's book of all Scottish Junior cup finals 1946-75 got conformation. I didn't know he was a Kilsyth man though.
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11 hours ago, The real Dembele said:
Surprised at the number of people going for the in-form Jags to get beaten by a mid-table side
A 0-0 draw in your last match is hardly 'in form' although certainly an improvement in what has gone before. However a win has to come sometime and today would be a good day to start.
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13 hours ago, Jambo'ness said:
Well, I have mentioned Dennistoun Waverley and Dundee Violet (though that was at Dens). You've let slip about Petershill. I think Lanark United's 10,00 in the 1950Junior Cup was a record.
The round after Dundee Violet in 1948 drew a record at Lochgelly Albert. Away to Sauchie in 1982 was also a record, I think. There are probably more but I'm not certain.
Currently this is the best thread on P &B, well I think so anyway. Mention of the huge crowrs that Dundee Violet used to attract in the immediate post WW2 days, Kilsyth had drawn them in the 4th round of the Scottish in 1946/7 season. The fiirst round was at Dundee on the 2nd January, a thursday, but obviously a holiday. . Kulsyth took a reported 3000 fans in two special trains accompanied by the Kilsyth Thistle pipe band. The crowd was given as 12545, not sure about the venue. It ended 1-1 and the replay at kilsyth on the 11th January ended 0-0. The second replay was at Annfield in Stirling on the 18th which Vilet won 4-1`, no record of attendances ast these games.
The following season we met Haddington in the 1st round of the Scottish, the first two matches as Kilsyth and Haddington were both drawn; the second replay was at Easter Road in Edinburgh on 20yh September with a 5-45 pm kick off. It went bto extra time with Haddington 4-3 ahead but the ref evenyually abondoned the game due to bad light. no floodlights then. The third replay was at Bo'ness on the 27th september with Haddington finally taking the tie with a 5-4 victory. I wonder if there is any record of trhis game in the Bo'ness paper? Must have a look on my next visit to Falkirk library.
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On 12/02/2019 at 06:19, Jambo'ness said:
In 1955 just a fortnight after hitting double figures against Alva Albion Rangers, the sides met in the reverse League fixture at the Hillfoots and the BU's won 6-1 this time. The line-up was: Ronald, McBlain, Donnelly, Hogg, Boyd, Meiklejohn, Thomson, McMahon, Harrower, Hunter, McKeown.
Goals came from a Jimmy Harrower hat-trick, John Hunter, Hugh McMahon & Billy McKeown.
Jimmy Harrower had played at Kilsyth around 1952/3 , moderately successfull scored 9 goals that season. Our top scorer that year was Martin Mulhall with 38, the elder brother of trhe much more successfull George (Aberdeen & Sunderland). Jimmy Harrower played for Hibs, Liverpool, Newcastle, St Johnstone, Falkirk and Albion Rovers, got goals everywhere he went. Ended up at Sauchie who would still be a juvenile team then I think. There seems to have ben quite a few who played both at Bo'ness and Kilsyth, Gibby Ormond did and I remember a centre forward, Goldie also coming to us.
Which of the Steedman brothers played for Bo'ness, both Jack and Charlie played at Kilsyth around 1952. I think at least one of them played senior at one time before going into club management and administration famously taking Easdt Stirlingshire to Clydebank. The rest, as they say, is history
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An amazing turnaround for Meadow over the past twelve months. this time last year not even challenging for a promotion place (top six) Sneaking in to the premier in last spot and now looking like a top four finish in the top division. Not jealous , but certainly envious of your success, there is a difference, it has been earned.
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16 hours ago, Jambo'ness said:
Alex Querrie joined Bo'ness from Forth Rangers in November 1948 and returned to them in July 1949. I have him as scoring 24 goals in 25 games. There are also 5 goals unaccounted for that season that may add further, also 5 games.
Thanks for that info, quite a bit earlier than I thought. It all adds to his history which I only have in detail for his time at Kilsyth. He scored 260 goals with us in 6 seasons. The next question of course, which will be much harder to answer is how many did he score with Forth Rangers? I know he did have some time at sea so it might not be easy.
He was spotted by Kilsyth towards the end of the 1952-53 season playing for a Stirlingshire select in what I believe was a one-off tournament, possibly the R S McColl trophy. Mostn of the team were Kilsyth players as we had a very decent side that season although it did not compare with the following seasons squad. We did not sign Alex until about six games into the season and already six different players had worn the no 9 jersey. He scored in his first six games and went on to get 60 goals that season, so you can say it was a very good buy. Once again thanks.
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Just been having a look through this thread. Lots of interesting stuff especially the older bits from the 50's thru to the 70's and 80's.
A lot of mentions of players who were also at Kilsyth; Jimmy Harrower, went to Liverpool; Gibby Ormond (Airdrie); Eric Sinclair (Dundee) and a few others less well known.
I have a question, I believe our all time top scorer Alex Querrie, had a spell with Bo'ness probably around 1951/2. He worked in BP and went to sea on their merchant fleet for a while before returning and playing for Forth Rangers from whom we signed him in August 1953. Do you have any records of his time with Bo'ness? Appearances, goals scored, etc. I don't think it likely that he could have been with Bo'ness for very long, but any information gratefully received.
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18 hours ago, Eednud said:
This might interest some of you. https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/blether-more-than-9400-saw-blairgowrie-mow-the-meadow/
Great stuff! Blairgowrie had some very decent teams in that era and were well supported in their cup runs. The previous ground record of 4600 at Davie park was in a sixth round tie v Kilsyth in 1955 when we went on to record our first Scottish cup win. I was there, still at primary school, my auntie was in charge of issueing Alexanders buses to the game and they had to come from depots all over central Scotland. Sixty seven in all including quite a few double deckers, at a guess around 3000 travelling fans. About our total home gates for a season nowadays. How things have changed.
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20 minutes ago, eaglelok said:
Ok Just wondered . So who is it then ???
Ask your delegate, he was present at the meeting.
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2 hours ago, glensmad said:
So Benburb predictably went top of the league with their demolition of Larkhall while Glencairn were on cup duty. The Bens have clearly been on a mission to close the goal difference gap in the past couple of games which they have done really well.
So, of the promotion contenders, they have the following mix of fixtures left to play :-
Benburb - 3 at home, 8 away.
Glencairn - 7 at home, 5 away.
Arthurlie - 5 at home, 5 away.
Cumbernauld - 7 at home, 4 away.
Rossvale - 6 at home, 9 away.
Whitletts - 3 at home, 5 away.
Kilsyth - 7 at home, 4 away.
2 hours ago, glensmad said:So Benburb predictably went top of the league with their demolition of Larkhall while Glencairn were on cup duty. The Bens have clearly been on a mission to close the goal difference gap in the past couple of games which they have done really well.
So, of the promotion contenders, they have the following mix of fixtures left to play :-
Benburb - 3 at home, 8 away.
Glencairn - 7 at home, 5 away.
Arthurlie - 5 at home, 5 away.
Cumbernauld - 7 at home, 4 away.
Rossvale - 6 at home, 9 away.
Whitletts - 3 at home, 5 away.
Kilsyth - 7 at home, 4 away.
I think you can remove both Whitletts and kilsyth from your list of promotion contenders, we were well beaten by a pretty ordinary side yesterday and will now have to forget a top three placing for this season again. The big Dam Park surface should have suited us but it was nothing but misplaced passes and giving rthe ball away all afternoon. Had a few words with Adams dad, a Kilsyth man, and he is justifyably proud of his son's record of goal scoring this season, his goal yesterday brought his total to 35 so far. His first junior club was Kilsyth but he never did anything like that although it was obvious that he had talent to come. All the recent changes in our lineup have not improved the team, why can't Bullit get a game when we are leaking goals like a rusty bucket and have no one who has the first idea of how to get his head to a cornerkick?
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3 hours ago, The real Dembele said:
I didn't say you weren't all that good, different thing entirely. If a team scores 9 it's either because they have been outstanding or the other team have been terrible. In this case we were terrible and didn't defend, you didn't have to be all that great to win 9-1.
There's nothing disrespectful about any of that, it's just my opinion of the game.
How many angels can stand on the head of a pin?
This is that sort of argument.
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What sort of attendances are you getting at North Region games?
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3 hours ago, Terry Tibbs said:
Forsyth at Whitletts has 33 goals this season, couldn’t tell you how many were league goals though
Eta- actually 32 goals this season, 24 in league and 8 cup goals
Didn't realise that Adam had scored so many, he started his junior career wth Kilsyth as that is his fathers home town. The competiion is certainly hotting up with almost half the season still to go. Our league is certainly the one for goals, 589 scored in 138 games so far, approx 4.37 goals a game. Any of these three, Adam, Gary & Salim could yet hit 50.
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West Region Championship thread 2018-19
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Could be three if Rossvale make it as well. But hold on, are they not from East Dunbartonshire?
But maybe it would be back to two if Rob Roy go down, they are East Dunbartonshire as well. My head hurts, is Barrhead in greater Glasgow or Renfrewshire or where?