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Trogdor
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What lichtgilphead said, I read the full eulogy as well. You'd have to be really looking for offence to find it in that eulogy!
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Still too early for this...
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15 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said:
Buzzing for Tuesday. I don't even know why, but there we are.
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19 minutes ago, ryanayr1987 said:
Maybe misunderstood what was said previously, that’s good if it’s going back into the club although I wasn’t judging him if he was taking profits from the bar. Just on the basis that he built that and is building the stand all coming out his own pocket
My recollection is that Smith owns the hub but all the income goes to the club.
The North Stand will be slightly different in that Smith will pay for it, the club will own it as it'll have the asset on its books but loans to Smith will increase by an equal amount.
Ultimately he's covering the costs and he's the only owner in my recollection who has delivered what he said he would off the pitch. Many chased fantasies of new stadiums. Somerset Park is looking and feeling better. The hub is a good addition (if a little on the small side). There are loads of upgrades to the stadium (toilets, changing rooms, board room, gym etc, the carpark).
That's not to say everything is rosey but he does deserve credit for what he has done.
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51 minutes ago, Rb123 said:
That buzz as an Ayr United supporter from after full time title celebrations in May 2018 to first league home game against Partick in August 2018 i don't think will ever be matched IMO
There's riding on the crest of the wave and then there was that which was riding on the top of a wave as high as Mount Everest
If Carling did a summer break that would be it.
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41 minutes ago, BukyOHare said:
So if you disagree with the negativity on here then you're a happy clapper?
That makes sense. There is a middle ground, I think.
There is a middle ground. See D'Jaffos post above which I think is both reasonable and fair.
However, saying things like:
It must really ruin the Saturday night of some of our supporters because we didn't get beat isn't remotely in that middle area.
It's the language of division, you can't have a pop at others for being negative after 25 mins into the game (especially if they were watching it) then come out with that stuff. You're going to get a reaction (not unreasonably I might add).
I also think the way you are dismissive of the League Cup is bizarre given progression from the group is the financial equivalent of 180 season tickets. That's not to be sniffed at, especially when we all accept the squad needs strengthening.
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24 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:
When was this?
I got in touch about a month ago and was told that in terms of the highlights and media stuff that the club were aware that it hasn’t been good enough and were looking to recruit for it.
Mathie said last night that if they get the person they are after then it should improve so I can only hope they’ve identified someone and are trying to get them in.
I'd rather not drop the club in it. Other than to say it was a decent bit before your interaction.
The subject matter was similar to yourself in that it was to do with the quality of the highlights.
I got a rapid response from SLO who passed it on to the club but I never heard anything else back from the club.
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5 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:
I think there’s a time and place for calling someone out and last night wasn’t it. I find that if you have constructive criticism or suggestions then you can get in touch with an email*.
*which is what I chose to do in relation to season tickets and the lack of presence with regards to media but thanks for your suggestion
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Interested in how you get on. I reached out to the SLO by email and he responded speedily and passed my queries to the club. I'm yet to hear back.
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To put the League Cup into perspective.
Qualify from the group and even if you lose you get £55,000. If you have a TV game you get more money as well.
That equates to 180 adult season tickets.
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3 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:
You’re right though. Anything is a bonus as the position we’re in is way behind where we should be.
Very well put.
We aren't where we aught to be. There is significant work needing done to bring in players.
One modicum of positivity from today, we actually tried to play out from the back but Stirling Albion had a high press so it was high risk given our defenders aren't the best with the ball at their feet. We didn't just aim long punts. That is something.
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This a football forum. It may shock some posters to realise that not everyone shares their opinion. This isn't the echo chamber some like to portray it as.
I'm amazed anyone tries to contort today's result as anything other than a lucky escape that's what it was. It was painful viewing for the most part. I don't buy the 'something to build on' gibber jabber.
The club has serious business to get done in the transfer market. The League Cup is a serious competition. In 2018/19 our winning the group meant we could sign Liam Smith. Success was worth an extra player, something to think about.
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4 or 5 first teamers required.
That was painful viewing today.
That'll do me for now.
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Fairwell Dipo and all the best for the future.
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11 minutes ago, honestly united said:
To be fair is the difference in prize money from 2nd to 5th in the 6 figure range?
It'll be a decent chunk. That's precisely my point though a 2nd place finish and Scottish Cup quarter final should have been a windfall and a decent profit. We won't do that every season. It shouldn't be break even for us. Unless we heavily invested in the squad and were budgeting for a six figure loss anyway.
9 minutes ago, AyrExile said:No doubt operating costs increased markedly but won't explain that change. Guessing the loan players wages must have cost a lot but some of those are good players
Yeah inflation will be hurting the club as it is all businesses.
I think there is maybe a wee bit of creative accounting going on as well. We don't want to be proclaiming that we've made a fortune as demands go up from prospective players and fan expectations with it.
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Aye, finishing Second and a Scottish Cup quarter final run and we only broke even? I think there is a bit of managing the message there.
Otherwise, there are serious questions over our budgeting and how we are operating the club from an I&E perspective. That would not be a sustainable way to operate.
Were any one off costs cited as to why we were on course for a six figure loss? Is that where they talked about games being moved and away attendances and moving kick off times? I'm all for moving the kick off time later on a Saturday. You can make a day of it then.
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I'm looking forward to the game today.
I'm really not sure what to expect. It should be a decent test as Stirling are on the up, having won League 2. They've also been scoring for fun. Puting 6 past Dundonald Bluebell and 5 past Civil Service Strollers without reply.
Our team is obviously a work in progress. I'm looking forward to see the new guys (particularly Murphy) and I'm hoping with Dipo away that we won't go route 1 all the time!
I think we'll shade this but it'll be a tight affair. 2-1 to the good guys.
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12 minutes ago, BukyOHare said:
At our level it can definitely be achieved through the players hard work in training, getting back to doing the basics and tweaks in formation that are designed get the best out of every player.
I broadly agree with you here. In Reading's case though it feels like hope more than expectation. Gut feel it's a 1 in 20 shot.
His two predecessors in the position were significantly better than him as well. That's what frustrates me, we've gone backwards at left back at a rate of knots. You have to go back to Roberts time for a worst left back for me.
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Just now, BukyOHare said:
I don't think anybody raised concerns about Reading two seasons ago did they? He's devoid of confidence that is very clear and it's upto the manager and his coaching team to try and get him back to somewhere he was before. That's their job, especially at our level. Don't feel sorry for Ecrepont either, the game's all about opinions. On here, on the terraces and in the dugout. That's a few managers who have decided against giving him an extended run in the first team. Are they all wrong? Time will tell.
He's a big boy now and I really hope he goes off and makes a name for himself at a decent level. Will it be in the Championship though?
I remember raising concerns about Reading in the first game of the season. When a geriatric Chris Burke turned him inside out away to Killie. I'm sure there were a fair few who were worried.
I find it difficult not to feel sorry for Ecrepont when he's bearly been given a run in the team. When someone who clearly isn't up to it is picked consistently ahead of you.
As you say, we don't see them in training and it's multiple managers but he's been with the club for 11 years now. If he does go, he goes with my best wishes and I hope he proves the doubters wrong.
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Just now, ayrunitedfw said:
They're no listening to each other.....aww Jesus Christ."
"It's the fucking left back"
That sounds familiar to my recent cries this season!
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I feel sorry for Ecrepont. How bad must it feel to not be fancied at left back behind Reading.
I don't accept Bullen's argument that it's because there is no competition for Reading. Reading simply isn't good enough and is targeted by the opposition repeatedly. Its been a problem for at least a whole season, arguably two.
At least he has acknowledged the problem. I suppose.
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Was there any mention of how many additions and of what sort of quality or characteristics we were after?
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10 minutes ago, eez-eh said:
You can go a few pages back and see me poking fun at the North Stand and pulling up the chief happy clapper about the season ticket issues. None of what you’ve said applies to me.
I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said and I’m normally negative myself but you can’t also tell me with a straight face that there aren’t one or two people who have a personal dislike of a certain individual at the club and enjoy being able to gloat when something goes a bit tits up.
I wasn't having a go at you. My issue was with the poster you quoted and you had asked if he was wrong.
There are undoubtedly a couple of people on here who have had run ins with Dave Smith and there is personal animus on both sides. I can say that because at the Vision Night the chairman made references to having the best hub in League One. A comment made by a poster on here.
The issue I take is that any legitimate criticism is then framed in those terms. "It's because you dislike Smith" Its a means by which to deflect criticism which we shouldn't be giving any credence.
Those who have a personal dislike of the current custodian are a small minority. Even those who do, would (grudgingly) accept Dave Smith has had a positive impact on the club.
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The Ultimate Super Ayr Thread
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The first bit could also have been said for trying to sign Graham & McKay who are crucial for two competitors. I think a bit of aspiration in signing targets is no bad thing.
The second bit on whether he is exactly what we need or not, I'm not sure. I just know the team needs experienced proven players and fast. With Dipo going, the first 11 is a bit of a husk with no real focal point at present as witnessed on Saturday.