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I hadn't realised that tradition was one of the criteria. Never mind the LL, lack of tradition didn't stop a brand new club being admitted to the SFL six years ago.

They have every right to enter at Tier 6: it is (at present) the only level available. There is no Tier 7.

So, more competent? More professional? Maybe more "Super"?

Can someone explain how the HL clubs can afford floodlights, play midweek games, and cope with worse weather and greater distances, when the so-called "Super"League teams can't?

Strange. In ten years of attending non-league football (Highland League and then EoS), I don't remember anyone ever mentioning Junior football, let alone their cup. And that was in the days when the final attracted real crowds.

16.67% for VAT, leaving £41,667. Every little helps.

Evidently the existing EOS teams don't agree with you, and it's their decision.

Agreed, but two wrongs don't make a right. The SFA are the national governing body: the SJFA are affiliated to them, not vice-versa.

I doubt whether the SFA would accept the SJFA having this role, especially when it seems to be run by incompetents who can't even organise a fixture list. The whole point of the pyramid is to have a seamless progression from bottom to top, and that means getting rid of obsolete and unnecessary barriers like the junior/senior distinction.

The members of the PWG would be entitled to assume that the SJFA representative (and those of the EOSL etc.) would come to the meetings with a brief agreed with his member clubs, and would communicate the outcome to them ASAP. That's what would happen in any normal organisation ....

Tax avoidance is perfectly legal. What you're describing is tax evation, which is criminal. It also seems at odds with the often quoted "community" ethos of some junior clubs.

I haven't seen it, but I've read the book https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D507BK4/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

No, but that's a feeble response and doesn't change the fact that there was no reference. Anyway, I will respect the views of my fellow posters and will do nothing further to pursue this particularly irrelevant discussion.

You said "A reference to Nazi occupation ". There was no such reference.

Listen carefully, I shall say this only once .... Vichy France was the part NOT occupied by the Nazis.

Why do the Juniors always refer to themselves as a "grade"? They don't seem to meet any normal definition of the word. Football has been hierarchical since God was a boy, with the Premier League or old First Division as the top "grade". The juniors have always stood aside from all that, and by doing so have avoided being "graded".

Check the title of this thread. The whole landscape of junior football is changing. Why would the cup be exempt?

The Scottish Cup used to be for members only, but that was changed to allow junior clubs to enter. There's no reason why the junior cup rules couldn't be changed too.

They've left you to watch Rangers? Things are worse than you think ...

Discrimination is illegal in various contexts if based on age, gender, race or religion. Which do you expect them to claim?

Their website copyright notice names The Scottish Junior Football Association Ltd . Ordinarily, I'd say it was next to inconcievable that such an organisation would not have limited liability status. However, this is the parallel universe of Scottish football, where clubs become limited companies, go bust, have their assets sold to a brand new company and behold! the old club somehow resurrects itself and claims 54 league titles in the space of six years. Anything is possible for a determined Scottish fitba administrator.

You're right. But surely they wouldn't make a criminal false claim of limited status? That would be stupid. Oh, hang on ...

It's a limited company. If it's dissolved voluntarily, any assets will go to the shareholders, who (presumably) will be the member clubs at the date of dissolution.

Quite so. There's a team who started from nowhere with no history a mere six years ago, yet go tot this year's Scottish Cup semi.

The losses may be getting smaller, but ... The accounts include the "key assumption" that "... the Club will challenge for the European places in the Ladbrokes SPFL Premiership in 2016/17 and participate in European competition in the season thereafter" Does anyone seriously believe that can be achieved without investment in players and a significant increase in the wages bill? If it isn't achieved, they're in deep trouble. Even without that investment and increase, they need to borrow a further £3.75 million to see the end of this season. Of the current debt, £3.75 million is repayable on demand (ouch!), and the remaining £6.275 million by December 2017, so further loans will be needed sooner rather than later.