Highland Dogma

Yawn that's like saying Neville Chamberlain was a better politician than Churchill. Simply being passive as fans is precisely why Scottish football has rotted or twenty year. The battered wife syndrome has gone on too long . To try to denigrate fans for pushing the issues of basic integrity is risible. By your model of fan nothing would ever change for the better and clubs could treat the fans as profit centres. Its high time the boards know they are answerable and accountable.

No oldcos costs were not a million a month their LOSSES were over a million a month even with full houses at spl and Cl prices Cl and spl TV money and huge sponsorship deals. Losing some players will not obviate the several million pounds of fixed costs per month including business rates utilities tax ni vat maintenance etc. Even the fantasy attendances of twenty k wont come close to break even

Couldn't agree more. The fact that redtops and their ilk are avoiding real journalism is one of the reasons that they are in steep decline. Social media like this thread have shown them up badly...I haven't bought a paper even a broadsheet in months due to fact I can't believe what's written in them and fact that there is more accuracy and fact on a football forum s well wrong. I'm sure I'm nit only one either. Ssn has to pander to lowest common denominator but BBC doesn't and they need a major clear out.

Your spot on in everything you say. I suspect that when diddy fans have been calling them bigots and gloryhunters whilst getting the retort of your just jealous etc we were hitting nail square on head. They wanted ready made glory and trophies which required no other input for them than buying a xxxl replica shirt and a shellsuit. The 'lifelong' fans that supposedly followed them through thick and thin were nowhere to be seen prior to sdm...and they're disappearing again just when they would be most needed.I think the fans of just about any diddy team would have saved their club or started a new Afc team...hell even gretna did it and Gary glitter has more fans than them

Fair point actually there doesn't seem to the willpower amongst the orcs to get even a junior AFC style club off the ground. Sunday league or welfare level maybe at best...ah well

Not really if he has to make an entirely new application for membership they wont meet the criteria required.

Jardine utterly boils my piss almost more than any of the other players in this farce. The only reason they won titles on the park was that they cheated to recruit and retain playerd that they couldn't otherwise afford and further that allowed them to steal prize money sponsorship and euro money artificially weakening other teams and enhancing them. People like him are why so many want rangers wiped out of existence!

Clearly for the comedy value.the ssn presenters apart from Jim white can barely keeps straight face when he's being mentioned ...well not sure about Hayley McQueen...never get as far as seeing her face tbf. If he wasn't such an agressive bigoted scumbag I might actually feel sorry for brown. He is utterly clueless to the extent of the mess and the numbers required to rescue newco.it's faintly tragic seeing a guy his age so deluded that he thinks he is the right option to save a complex business like newco. I imagine his business plan involves a bring n buy sale or maybe get all the ex gers on cash in the attic. No doubt he will run one of the inevitable four or five horrid junior teams claiming to be the real gers desperately trying to outbigot the others

No I agree with you but he does care about his future well being...fact that he has been living in safe houses suggests he now has an idea of the fallout to come. That said the property on its own represent a much smaller profit than a working debt free team in the spl which I'm sure he thought he was going to able to flog for a tidy penny. I think he was expecting much more cash here but he's been out of his depth with almost every decision

Not just that but any suppliers who haven't pro forma invoices will be expecting payments for goods and services since hughie took over not to mention utility payments tax ni vat etc...rather looks like hughie has gone all in whilst holding the two of clubs and a panini sticker!!

Either that or sfa have asked to see a bank statement and hughie doesn't want to admit they're skinto! I'm fairly confident they wont make start of season

Can't link cos I'm on phone but according to BBC newco are threatening to Sue duff n phelps for half a million. It really never stops giving does this story. I guess hughie is running out of cash even quicker than we all thought.!

You would think that they have to be insured...but then again very little would surprise me now. I would hope newcos players agents and indeed the opposition established that insurance to at least cover training game was in place. Pfa should also have input too...imagine the repurcussions if someone had suffered a career ending injury?

Thick as their fans are they might notice when they aren't playing any games due to not being able to fulfill new team membership criteria.

Aye they can't though without a brand new application including full financial transparency...rock and hard place

Wow...I did think he seemed a bit odd today on ssn saying it was going well cod he didn't need a safehouse anymore and a sixteen year old let him sit at her table in a restaurant the other night. He has the look of a broken man unraveling and some of his statements even from the beginning have been well weird like when he claimed a precedent had been set with another newco voted straight into spl.

If they dont play this season they will never play. If they have no money no they can't afford a year of business rates gas leccy essential maintenance salaries tax ni vat etc will need to paid for with no income...they can't even play friendlies without sfa membership being cleared up.as with every other portion of this journey since Feb oldco newco and their fans have managed to go down one way streets leading inexorably to a sheer drop off a cliff face

Honestly dont think green had a clue what he's doing. He seems to have made extraordinary gambles that he could get working capital from st sales transfers and jump straight into spl. Its telling that with two mins of looking at the running costs bill Miller legged it yet green has just kept digging deeper with no clue how to bridge the thirty million shortfall that miller picked up on. Why would uefa let them off with football debts just as they're bringing in financial fair play?? Its hard to believe he's ever been involved with football before

Indeed also telling that they can only afford to put him in a flat...maybe if he had a house he would have storage room for more than one suit..

Yep off to uefa to try to weasel out of three million of footy debt and also to try to persuade olympiacos to come over to play a friendly to raise funds (presumably it will have to be five a side) and hughie doesn't yet realise they can't even play a friendly til sfa membership is resolved. I'd say money is running out fast! I particularly liked his claim that he is winning over fans cos he no longer needs a safe house...right there exactly why they should have no place in Scottish football. He's also safe to go out for a meal now...

Fwiw I'll be amazed if they complete four games in a row!

They can't Just lay off tuped staff they would be owed redundancy commensurate with their previous terms of employment. And just mothballing bits of the stadium would be Moe complex than it sounds whilst also reducing income which is reliant on crowds. In short they are royally fecked whatever they try to do not least cos they're idiot fans would have gone ape about any of the sanctions which could have been punishment but left them able to trade.

Given that hughie has legged it to uefa to try to weasel out of the three million debt and sent lackeys to the sfa meet to try to prove they have real investors and a business plan...I'm guessing the cash must be nearly, gone. Is the next pay day before the season start?

Ffs just watched hughie on ssn...he's off to uefa to try to weasel out of football debts of three million! Brass bloody neck! Listening to him he sounds like he's lost the plot! Trying to organise a sell out friendly with olympiacos despite not having a squad??

Closing stands wont necessarily help.in fact it reduces potential income and makes it harder to cover fixed costs like tax ni utilities business rates etc. They will still have jobs that need to be done like maintenance pitch management and other basic business operations stuff that sfl three club's simply dont have to worry about. I think we're moving to endgame here