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Third Son from the Rock

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  1. Very pleasing.

    The surface throws up variables at Stenny and surely I'm not the only one who has noticed the number of overhits - especially at corners and fouls but really any ball that's hit from the ground. Strangely, if the ball is rolling it seems to slow down v. quickly. 

    The Gray goal was simply joyous and the performances of Buchanan and Carswell (with supporting roles from McNiff and Lynas) prevented Long from having to make a serious save. 

    I agree completely with this too.

    11 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

    I think the Stenny fans are being a bit hard on their team.  Today was the fourth consecutive match in which we have basically counter-attacked our way to a win, victories which have been built on solid defence and collective hard work.

    There's an element of playing the percentages in that, but full points is a great start, especially when we have been missing important players.

    Stenny put a lot into the game today but like Annan last week they looked a bit one-dimensional.  We don't look like swamping teams, but we are capable of creating and taking chances whilst keeping it tight at the back.  And if there's currently a better-to-box midfielder in League Two than Fin Gray then I'll be surprised.

     

  2. 12 minutes ago, WC Boggs said:

    It should have been in Isaac Newton's laws of physics.  If you  let a forward go he comes back to haunt you.

     

    12 minutes ago, WC Boggs said:

    It should have been in Isaac Newton's laws of physics.  If you  let a forward go he comes back to haunt you.

    We've had many of those....

  3. There will be no improvement, consolidation or hope; there will be no semblance of a professional football club at the Rock until Messrs A Hosie and Kristoffersen are escorted from the premises. They are charlatans and scumbags who don't give a flying f*ck about Dumbarton FC. 

    Stevie Farrell is hopeless but he didn't award himself a 2 year contract, that was the board. 

    They are also culpable and have to consider their position.

    Who from the board was at the game today? 

    Anybody know?

    Maybe they were smart enough to stay away whilst we, the perennial mug punters, rolled up in a frenzy of hope over expectation.

     

     

  4. 12 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:

    No point discussing it with me? Don’t come on here throwing around cryptic shite then, just come out with it. How is anyone else supposed to know that? It isn’t public knowledge.

    Quite clearly if they aren’t stumping up sponsorship money then that directly impacts his budget. 

    Where did you get that information from?

    Companies House reckons that Moreroom's total worth is £17,500. Using your skill and judgement, have a guess how much of the promised £35k they have stumped up (remembering that this is a Hosie company). Nothing I have highlighted is cryptic. It's all in the public domain.

     

  5. 3 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:

    Where is the evidence that they are actively taking money from the club that the club earns through sponsorship and ticket sales and anything else that goes towards a playing budget? If it’s out there then fire it in here and educate us. There wouldn’t be hellish much to take. Them fucking around with the surrounding land and doing whatever they are doing with it doesn’t impact Farrell’s budget FWIW.

    If we need someone to pump money into us then we aren’t self sufficient and the chances of finding someone who will are slim to none. Unfortunately for us, a lot of teams in the lower leagues do have someone pumping money in but it shouldn’t be a requirement of any owner to do so.

    The best work of conmen is leaving you believing that you haven't been conned.

    If you don't think that the non receipt of £35k promised sponsorship from a fking charlatan (who's previous company Bet Butler never came across with money either) doesn't affect the manager's budget then there is no point in discussing it with you.

  6. 10 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:

    Recent financial reports said debt had been wiped and given the current playing squad vs income I’d be astounded if they were syphoning money from the club to line their pockets. 

    I’d like to think someone would have spoken up by now if that was the case.

    There is more than one way to skin a cat.

  7. 3 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:

    Out of interest did we ever hear anything from the new chairman after he was appointed? I may well have missed it but I can’t seem to find even a single quote from him. 

    I’ve said it before but as shite as our owners are, they don’t take money from the club and they don’t appear to meddle with footballing matters. They most definitely hinder us but we managed many years in the Championship with similarly shite owners. Given some of our signings this season and the fact they are on two year deals it would appear Farrell was well backed in the summer in terms of budget. We should be expecting far better than what we’re currently being served up on the pitch.

    How do you know this?

  8. 1 hour ago, BallochSonsFan said:

    Just read the latest online regarding the Sweeney/Hosie nonsense. My favourite quote is probably this:

    “Andrew has a degree from Cambridge University, 10 years experience at Procter and Gamble, the world’s biggest marketing company, five years experience as a commercial director of Everton Football Club and 15 years sports marketing with other clubs - plus he has never taken 1p from Dumbarton and will work for nothing.

    “Yes he has a high profile business failure but in my experience he is 100 percent honourable.”

    Can somebody advise Henning to lay off the Aquavit?

    I think the following takes some beating. "Substantially less" being a euphemism for hee-haw. 

    "Sweeney believes that the sale of the club by Brabco was illegal, however Hosie still owns the shares in Granada that Sweeney has security over - with these now worth substantially less with Brabco no longer owning the club."

  9. I think we should all drop the bad neighbour theme. If there were no residences within a mile of the Bet Butler it wouldn't matter a damn as Brabco has never had any intention of spending money or applying for planning permission there. Their sole purpose is in flogging that site and turning some sort of profit. Everyone should begin to focus on what they will do if they can't manage that :huh:

    What should be borne in mind is that the 'investment' that Brabco has made is somewhat south of a million quid. If, as has been speculated, this is amongst six wealthy men, then in relative terms it is not a lot of money. They are supposedly going to buy the 120 acres at Dalmoak for £750,000. If the planning permission for the proposed development goes ahead then the increase in value of the land would probably recoup their entire investment at a stroke.. If it doesn't go ahead then much depends on who is Brabco's heid bummer and how much the investment means to the investors.......

  10. The suggestion that a part time football club moving grounds is in any way comparable with a country deciding whether to govern itself is laughable. Other than there being some folk for it and some folk against it it's not even remotely similar.

    Who suggested that it was comparable? Not me, I just used a phrase which had been used ironically by the Yes campaign and it seemed apt.

    The main gripes on here about the proposal is that we are a part time football club (too wee) That the area is impoverished and couldn't support a leisure/hospitality/gym development (too poor) and that somehow the thing is likely to fail because it's pie in the sky and hasn't been thought through (too stupid).

  11. Perhaps, and it's interesting that you mention Ingliston Wilf, as I would hazard that the owners of a purpose-built luxury wedding view atop panoramic vistas of the River Clyde will no doubt be cacking themselves at the prospect of a rival establishment adjacent to a council refuse station and looking upwards and onto a 1970's housing scheme, complete with gaudy neon signage of Robert The Bruce. Ditto the Loch Lomond trade.

    Ingliston's market for weddings extends to people with far too much money and Porsches with personal number plates, prepared to pay £100 a head. For that they'll get a starter of lark's tongues and tadpole's sphincters followed by 157g of Boef D'Ebola with wee dots of gravy and indeterminate red liquid with a side serving of a sprig of parsley and a carefully sculptured eighth of a maris piper potato. Pretty much the same at the Lodge on the Loch. Mind you I hear their vegetarian option of asparagus risotto benoncle is to die for.

  12. Brucehill was of course named after rab who for many years after he defeated the English ran a successful fish and chip shop on the site which is now napier crescent. Can we get back to moaning about gilbert again?

    Good idea. Since he's come in, Dumbarton has been in decline. From our happy days in the third division here we are a few short years later in the Championship. From crowds of 736 a few years ago, we're now on around 742 despite the continuing turmoil on the park. This crazy scheme to get out of an 11 acre site in a residential area with planning vetos in place, to a 120 acre site ripe for development really takes the biscuit though. As for heritage and history, the tourists travelling north on the main west coast route will have had their fill of that stuff with all those brown signs directing them to sites associated with William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, Mary Queen of Scots, Jackie Stewart, Chic Halliday and Beanzy Harcourt.

    Anyway, what about the following That's surely Gilbert on the left with Antonia next to him? Although the beard has been trimmed, I'm sure that's Allan Jardine at the other side with well known Dumbarton man Alistair McNab on the pipes. With Philip Differ on the main drum kit, this could be great half-time entertainment......

  13. Where exactly did I mention luxury homes ? I expect that the plans will be for more of the types of homes that are already adjacent to the football ground - overpriced but hardly luxury. Brabco/Denny Homes are acting now because the land on which the BB(bankrupt)S sits has increased in value to make their plans potentially viable.

    And if you check I think you'll find that Turnberry divested themselves of the old Blackburn site some time ago.

    If the homes are to be similar to the ones adjacent then the detached five bedroom jobs will come in around £375,000 a pop. Luxury in the poorest county in the country I would suggest. I didn't know about the Turnberry site. Does anyone know how much they sold it for and to whom?

  14. I get the impression Wilf that Brabco and their agents won't be worrying overly much about Articles of Association and Golden Shares, etc., They arrived here with the express intention of relocating DFC in order to generate a return on their investment, and market conditions having put that on hold for a few years they'll be very keen to now make that happen; if that requires steamrollering obstructions I'll bet that's just what they'll do.

    We should bear this in mind when the prospectus is laid out later this week, and also consider that Brabco's interests don't necessarily coincide with those of DFC.

    You seem to infer that market conditions have changed re. building luxury homes in Dumbarton. Do Turnberry Homes who own the site opposite know this?

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