Senior_Coconut

Yeah, that's why i left him out just wanted a comparison of managers with a decent amount of games in the champ. Wage bill is key though. I'd imagine GN's wage bill is the second lowest on that list.

For me Naysmith has had to 'manage' in far more difficult circumstances in their qos spells than AJ. I've seen nothing in their respective managerial careers to date that suggests AJ is a better manager than GN. Random stats below as i was interested. Average qos ppg: Jim McIntyre = 1.56 Kenny Brannigan = 1.50 Gordon Chisholm = 1.44 Gary Naysmith = 1.44 James Fowler = 1.36 Gus Macpherson = 1.00 Stats from: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/

What other clubs are you comparing us against?

So he did get some decisions correct.

Aw so it's bad management for us to sign a 30+ injury prone forward but also bad management for us not to sign a 30+ injury prone left back. I understand.

People representing the club are in a no win situation if they come out and say "we've got around the 7th highest budget in the league so that's our barometer" the usual suspects would be accusing them of having no ambition. We had the 9th highest average attendace in the league last year so i can't complain with having the 7th higgest budget this season.

I'm not sure it's worth reading into it in this much detail after the first quarter. Generally you'll find up to the 20-30 game mark the teams below you you've beat and the teams above you haven't. Looking back Morton at home is the only game I'm really disappointed with. Disappointed with yesterdays result but i was expecting a lot more from the pars so i'd have probably took a draw before the game. Ignoring performances, losing away to St Mirren, Dundee Utd and drawing away at Livi don't have me banging my head against the wall. That said I didn't and still don't expect us to finish 4th or above this season so maybe i've lower expectations.

You'll be the lad to fix them. Goram

Remembered, Leon Knight. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Knight Retired now, footballs loss.

What was the name of the ex Chelsea nutter who briefly played for us under Chisholm (i think) before moving into the northern irish game. Had a mind blank.

You're never far away with a negative story regarding Queens are you. Go and pester the council.

A few years ago Scotland were playing in Norway and a small local team changed their usual kick off day/time to coincide with the visiting fans arrival. They got a couple of hundred extra fans for little effort. That's where my thinking came from regarding Heston etc, football fans like a bit of novelty value and away fans are a captive audience the longer they're at Palmerston the more money they'll spend.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30551135 ^ article about St Mirrens fan zone. It definitely wasn't a beer tent. [emoji6]

Sorry i meant what's the incentive for a fan to go on to the website and subscribe. A newsletter or a pdf of the latest programme as an incentive may get a higher return.

For what benefit?

To get this system off and running could a subscibe option be put on the site and rather than the laborious task of creating a newsletter the pdf of the previous weeks programme be sent out? I wouldn't have thought it would dampen sales too much and if it does scrap it and you've still got your system populated.

Just caught up on the last couple of pages. Couple of points/suggestions.. To try and increase gates how about making use of the pitch and adding a bit of novelty have Heston play their league game at noon. That way people can watch two games for the price of one. (May appeal to away fans also) Copy st mirrens idea of having a beer tent and bbq outside the ground before and after the match, perhaps even have some local bands playing in it. Not an idea for every week but against a Brechin or a Dumbarton at home perhaps. I see Hearts have teamed up with Edinburgh Rugby recently offering joint ticket deals. Would it even be feasible to have the saints or the recently formed american football team to play at noon.

This topic brought me in mind of this article where a few ex queens players mentioned. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scotland-u19s-reached-euros-final-8511909.amp

In every interview I've heard with a manager or player this season top four finish has been the stated aim when questioned. I suppose they could mention their 3 year plan on the OS, but I'm assuming we all know the jist of the high level aims. Ideally = promotion while breaking even. Mid table championship while breaking even = acceptable.

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Again I'm fully behind the theory of not just giving the club the money with nothing in exchange. My point is where the shares come from. While those aims are undoubtedly worthwhile, there's no mention of buying 1000 shares through whatever means necessary. It does seem as though I've got the agenda of the trust wrong in my head. I'm glad I brought the subject up on here.

Thats how I see it as well. I'm really questioning what's the best strategy, buying tens of shares privately or saving the money until such a time when the board can't refuse a share issue or are more welcoming to fan representation. I'm glad we have a strong well run trust, should the worst happen we're already better prepared than last time.

I understand that argument but if the money raised by the trust is being used to buy shares from individuals then what benefit is that to the club? When the supporters trust and save our south started up I assumed we'd be slowly investing in the club in return for shares. If there's no shares available then the money gets saved until there is. When the club was struggling for cash a few years ago it was solely reliant on the generosity of a few individuals and the barflies, travel club etc bailing them out. I had hoped that the trust would have plenty of money in the bank as a safety net should we fall on hard times again. It would then step in with a share issue done in return.

Hi, thanks for the reply, I'm not keen on the trust being used as a cash cow by the club but I'd rather the money was held/saved until the opportunity to purchase more shares directly became available rather than giving the money to a third party. Seems a waste. I don't see the problem with having this discussion here, I assume JTulip doesn't either. I don't have a hidden agenda I'm happy to have my mind changed on this.

I should get in touch to ask them what the opinions of QoS fans on P&B are? Ok m9 To clarify I assume it is correct, I read if on the MAD board.