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That's where i'm at now tbh. The softly softly argument falls down for me on the basis that once, and to quote the SNP manifesto, "we're dragged out of the EU against our will", and everything that has went along with that, we still aren't prepared to vote Yes then i'm afraid i don't think we'll ever vote to be independent. As I've said quite often the issue isn't when Sturgeon calls a ref, the issue is what transpires after Maybot says naw. There needs to be a ground swell of support for Yes, either in polling or a snap election to really force the issue otherwise we're stuffed I think.

If you read my previous posts I think a short extension with no feasible plan to work through the situation is madness, as you have previously pointed out also. I think we’re at the crisis management stage where they’re something/anything to avoid disaster. But in answer to your question, f**k knows mate but it does leave us all considerably worse off.

I don’t disagree with what you say but the fact remains that no deal is the default option, you asked how this was if parliament expressed its will against it. The answer is because it’s the default option if all else fails. Despite this it’s probably still the least likely option of all. Anyone who is not a complete nut job will move hell and high water to avoid such a scenario.

Because you would actually have to pass legislation to avoid a no deal. At this point in time it is the only legal certainty regarding potential outcomes.

Are you sure she wasn’t interviewed in the House of Commons?

The speed that this has all been completed would suggest that you're correct. You ITK or just adding 2+2 and getting 4?

I would also argue that my comment re disenfranchised voters being more disenfranchised is also correct. The EU is the establishment and they will get their own way. See you’re picking and choosing your “establishment” there then. The Tories have a hell of a lot to lose from Brexit being cancelled and that also must be taken into consideration.

Answer: Appropriate time to plan a referendum. Ext to article, then referendum, then bin brexit. I've been consistent all along... Brexit will not be implemented. The establishment will piss over the initial referendum result, and the disenfranchised voters will be further disenfranchised. “The establishment” all want different things. Your prediction may be correct but the suggestion that events have all been part of a long term plan to thwart Brexit is incorrect. There are no certainties in this, it has been and remains an utter omnishambles.

A longer extension would probably take us into EU elections, which creates a whole new problem. Be interesting to see what Labour do now in the event of a GE. I’m not convinced a GE solves anything either tbh.

God I hope not, I can't put up with much more of this. The statement is quite a movement from May, I mean it was only yesterday that she refused to even acknowledge the thought of an extension to A50. Another question though, which May didn't answer, what if parliament votes against her deal, a no deal and an extension to A50?

I thought there was an olive branch offered by the EU yesterday about an extension? The fact does remain however what does a short extension actually achieve, if no plan in place to resolve the situation?

Quite a big development if so. Depends if they support a 2nd Ref with Remain as an option also.

Craig Harrow. Haven’t met him so won’t comment on him personally but if it’s anything like the last couple of campaigns then the Libs truly deserve their political obsecurity.

Maybe people just don't trust the Lib Dem's anymore? And then when presented with the a shiny new thing it immediately attracts them. I know in my own Highland constituency where the Libs have dropped to 3rd behind the Tories (a former Liberal stronghold) that there seems to be the residual effects from years of liberal cuntiness.

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I think I probably believe that as well, which makes the whole 'principled stand' schtick pretty hard to go along with.

Of course the IG don't want one, that's the whole point. What if Treesa/Tories want one?

Disagree with this part. I think it is now quite likely that we have an early election.

She was a Tory MP for 9 years, so by definition she's a complete wrong-un. But whether it's to fool folk or because she genuinely believes it she has said quite a few things recently re. Brexit and immigration that I find myself in agreement with. Her stuff on austerity however just confirms the fact that her views on Brexit etc. is akin to a broken clock being right twice a day.

To me TIG may be stuck between a rock and a hard place right off the bat. It appears they’re leaving their group deliberately vague in the hope that it swells their ranks. But the spectre of a snap election looms over them and you’d imagine they would have to have some concrete policies/party form in place for that.

Haha apologies typo. The point stands however, so answer the question.

She’s been the MP for Broxtowe for nearly 19 years. Have they just realised she’s a fraud now? As the voice of Broxtowe I beg for your enlightenment.

The perceived wisdom seems to be that this breakaway from these MP’s makes an election this year all the more likely. It will be interesting to see how many more join up and what they morph into before their legs are cut out from underneath them. I would suggest time is not on their side to sort their shit out.

The majority of her constituents voted for her