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20 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
Things like cup performance can, and to an extent should, be ignored, or at least only considered alongside the league form.
Aberdeen got to the League Cup final by squeaking past Stirling Albion, squeaking past relegation candidates Ross County, and then being quite jammy to beat Hibs in the semi-final. Fair play, they still got there, but had they drawn Rangers in the quarters or semi, then that run probably doesn't happen. That's fine if you're doing well generally, but against really poor league form it is a weak defence. Goodwin got an easy draw to the League Cup semi last season before running into Rangers. It happens. Robson got a good League Cup draw and essentially a bye to the Scottish Cup quarters. That's no reason to keep him in a job.
I knew Hearts fans who used our run to the cup final in 2019 to defend Levein. We beat Livi, Auchinleck Talbot, Partick Thistle, and ICT to get there. Sometimes these things are best overlooked.
Aberdeen have won ten games domestically this season. Half of them have been against Ross County, Clyde, or Stirling Albion.
I think the only mitigation for Robson is that he's been let down by recruitment. Aberdeen's midfield is unbalanced and their defence is poor. But you can't defend his record. They've spent quite a lot of money and they're eighth in the league.Fair point.
I'm not trying to defend Robson's record for what it's worth, more that three managers in 3 years suggests that the problem is bigger than the manager.
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1 hour ago, AndyM said:
Starmer will win the election for a few reasons.
He was tasked with cleaning up Labour. He's done that. The anti-semites are dealt with and now gone or hushed for now. Their talisman, Jezza will be history after the election and back to doing what he prefers. Protesting .
He hasn't scared the horses. The Business sector will back him and he's a boring lawyer that checks the details unlike the scary Corbyn or the idiotic oaf Boris Johnson.
The English public want a change. They're not enthusiastic for Starmer the way they were for Blair but the Tories have been in too long and the mood is for change.
Brexit has been a failure and is costing billions, though Starmer will do bugger all about it.
Divided parties don't win elections and the Tories are broken into what has been called the 5 families. There is a real chance that they could splinter with the moonhowler far right, (the ERG and the libertarians who do the bidding of the 55 Tufton St mob) going off with the Reform Party shysters.
But the support for him doesn't strike me as solid.
Whilst this point is undoubtedly true, I think it's unlikely we'll see another politician with that sort of popularity in the short to medium term. Society is so polarised that it's almost impossible for someone to have the sort of approval ratings that Blair had prior to 97. Even if Labour had a smoother, more charismatic leader just now, they still wouldn't have numbers like Blair.
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19 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said:
I wouldn't expect you to, but if you were to have a creep on Twitter, you would see the state of our tactics and shape.
Under Goodwin, we were a bit of a soft touch. I think teams underestimated us under Robson and suddenly we're snapping in to tackles, winning second balls.
We've tried to do that again, while signing players who like to get the ball down on the deck and play. It was obvious from Livi away on the first day of the season that it wasn't going to work.
Look at the two games against you guys. I wouldn't say you outplayed us, but you done what Robson wants us to do but also had a manager with a bit of tactical nous behind it. At times against you we literally had a back 5 playing it forward to a front 5.
If a manager wants to play long ball football, fine. At least sign the talent to play it.
Fair enough, you guys obviously have a much better idea of tactics/performances etc.
16 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said:We haven't been quick to fire managers when we appoint the right men at the right time.
McInnes was here seven years, Calderwood lasted six, however since Cormack arrived in 2019 his appointments have been plain wrong.
Robson was the popular choice with the support after the end of last season but the chairman and his board have got to look beyond short term success, or perceived success, and find someone capable and experienced of bringing long term stability.
We've seen with Glass and Robson that the Aberdeen job is not a place to cut your managerial teeth.
Goodwin was appointed with too much haste and, one can only surmise, blinded Cormack and the board with Irish blarney.Cormack needs someone to guide him but Messers Garner, Milne, Gunn and Burrows have proved nothing more than Yes men....
I'm certain I made a similar point on here, years back when Calderwood got moved on. There was a manager that had done well, but a lot of Aberdeen fans wanted him out. McInnes was the same by the end.
I'm not even having a particular pop at Aberdeen here, it's the whole culture that I don't think allows for much long term improvement of the game. I think more fans have to be willing to accept a bad season sometimes. But I caveat this by saying that in the fans of clubs, of course, have a better knowledge of how the team is doing than outsiders looking in.
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1 hour ago, kingjoey said:
Worst season up to this point since 2011/12.
You did get to a cup final though and churned out some decent European performances.
I just think that so many clubs have no real direction, it's almost like a lottery of whether a manager will work out or not. Aberdeen is only one example of it. Glass came in with a different style from McInnes, signed his own players then gets binned. Goodwin comes in with a different style again, signs a load of players, then gets binned. Now Robson. Whoever comes in will no doubt want to offload players and there's no guarantee the team will be in a far better position next season.
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Can't help but feel sorry for Robson. Gave up a good job to take the position (anyone would've), did well initially, but gets bagged after a year.
I think he'll probably be able to get another job in the Championship where there will be less pressure, but who knows.
I think too many clubs are chasing perfection. It's almost impossible now for a club to have a poor season (not even a terrible one) without bagging a manager or two. Hibs and Aberdeen have been the main culprits of late but I think all teams can be guilty of it. Maybe it's bigger than the manager? If clubs were prepared to give managers 2/3 years to try and build something then they'd maybe see some improvements.
As for the next manager - Warnock would be a good laugh but he's not exactly a long term fix.
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7 minutes ago, AW saint said:
And with that the window shuts. Now to announce our PCA's
All in all, I'm fairly happy with our business in the window.
We needed a right back
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We needed cover for left back
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We wanted another midfielder with a bit of strength
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We wanted another forward
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And we haven't lost any key players.
I can see why watching Kilmarnock bring in Stewart then Van Veen, might bring out a bit of envy but I think we've done OK.
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16 minutes ago, Nadroj said:
Listen, I quite like St Mirren - even if there’s a small section of their fans who seem to try and want to manufacture some sort of forced rivalry with us.
BUT, I’ll be taking no lectures on financial irresponsibility from a fanbase of a club who paid three grand a week to Eamon fucking Brophy.
Good luck with the rest of the season.
We werent paying Brophy £3k a week, that figure (if it's true) would've included an appearance fee. And he hardly ever appeared.
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20 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said:
There was the mad Jack Ross one to keep us up. Total squad reshuffle.
The Oran Kearney one too.
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1 hour ago, Stan Bo said:
He definitely won't be coming to us.
Whoever he does go to though when was the last time he played? Must be miles off match fitness.
November apparently.
I reckon that website has just looked at the table and guessed what clubs would he interested / have a chance of signing him.
As much as I'd be delighted to bring him in, I can't see it. Also, he's hardly kicked a ball this year, so no guarantee he'll hit the numbers he did last year.
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Good shout Tyrone
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2 hours ago, Wilbur said:
Why would a low number of draws be bad news ?
Victories get us 3 points, drawn games only get us 1 point. In reality, every draw is 2 points dropped or 1 point gained depending on the circumstances. Obviously a drawn match is preferable to a defeat, but it's still 2 potential points lost.
Too many draws will get you relegated.
You've answered your own question.
Of course, we need to look at each game individually, when is a draw 2 points dropped and when is it a good point?
We've won the same amount of games as Kilmarnock, yet sit 3 points behind them. Had we drawn with them in Paisley, rather than losing, we'd be equal with them on points. We've lost 3 more games than Kilmarnock and Dundee. As I said, only Livingston have lost more games than us.
I'm not suggesting we should be playing for a draw against other teams, just pointing out that when we don't win we tend to get beat rather than hanging on for a draw.
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One of our problems this year as that we haven't drawn a lot of games. Only Livingston have lost more games in the league this season (Ross County and us both on 10 defeats). If we could turn some of those losses into draws in the second half of the season and get a similar amount of wins then we could end up finishing 4th.
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44 minutes ago, Mordecai said:
We've not lost away in the league to Livingston for almost 4 years and they're rooted to the bottom of the league. We should definitely be looking to pick up points away to them.
I've been watching St Mirren for too long not to look at stats like this and get nervous.
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Korea stumble into the next round after a 96th minute equaliser against Saudi, then winning on penalties.
They meet Australia on Friday. None of the bigger sides have really hit form yet. I'd fancy Australia to win that tie, but who knows.
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25 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
Gardner obviously being a 1
Generous.
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14 minutes ago, Captain_Sensible said:
We pinched Fraser Wishart, Paul Kinnaird and……. wait for it…… Jim Gardner from them!
Billy Davies actually ended up at Fir Park via Leicester & Dunfermline
I've tried, for a long time, to forget about him.
We also took Andy Roddie from them, who was better than Gardner bit still shite.
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1 hour ago, Molotov said:
Finished Tony Adams “Sober”.
Interesting read.
He is a bit of a marmite character but it gives an insight into his battles to remain sober. Covers a great deal about the steps of recovery with AA.
I haven’t read his book “Addicted” which covers his thoughts on his experiences with alcohol. I will look to borrow that from the library.
Thought provoking to read about someone who captained Arsenal and England yet was so hampered by feelings of self doubt, etc.
On a similar note, I read Paul McGrath's autobiography about 10 years ago. It was pretty harrowing in places but definitely worth a read.
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Robinson commented on the pitch being difficult too. It was a wee bit bobbly maybe but I didn't think much of it in the game.
Think folk are maybe looking a wee bit too much into Clement's comments.
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6 minutes ago, AW saint said:
May not be popular for saying this but I actually hope we do. Would rather get proper money in than lose him for nothing. It may finance a player to come in.
Cutting it a bit fine for bringing someone else in. Although I'm sure Robinson will have players lined up.
Since seeing Kwon on Saturday I'm a bit more relaxed about Baccus moving on. Of course I'd much rather he stayed and still think he's our best player, but it's maybe not a total disaster with Kwon there.
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1 minute ago, doulikefish said:
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Just now, FTOF said:
Oh well.
There's every chance they could hit form at the right time. They've got some good players, I just wouldn't be banking on them beating Australia.
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8 minutes ago, FTOF said:
They've got Saudi Arabia or South Korea in the next game on the 2nd Feb.
No idea how good either of them are, but they will surely be a tougher proposition than the teams they've played so far.
Just noticed South Korea are ranked 23 compared to Australia's 25, so could be a chance of them getting emptied.
Korea have been honking so far. Klinsmann is about to get his jotters
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2 hours ago, VincentGuerin said:
VAR is resulting in a lot of responsibility being passed on by the officials.
The whole thing is shite.
Definitely, it's even written in the officials' guidance to do that. The perfect example was the Alistair Johnston handball fiasco. Sima is clearly offside but the linesman can't flag. Then we end up with this absurd situation.
No VAR means the linesman flags for that offside and everyone gets on with their lives.
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1 hour ago, Zamora Fan said:
Miovski’s brilliant finish at Tynecastle being disallowed for an innocuous trip in the build-up is yet another example of VAR basically taking away what would have been a great memory and moment for fans. These aren’t being replaced with new fond memories of VAR taking 5 minutes to award a penalty for the ball grazing someone’s hand. Even though this benefited Hearts in the moment, it’s something that affects every single team and every single match-going fan, and is gradually chipping away at what made all of us fall in love with the game.
What is football without the magic moments of quality and spontaneous celebrations you still talk about years later? We’re getting less and less of those thanks to VAR.
And unfortunately, this is a feature of having a VAR, rather than a bug. “Getting better refs to operate it” (from where?) or “running it more like in Germany” (its shit there too) or “eliminating referee bias” (Alex Jones-level bullshit) will not make VAR any less of a complete shit show that is ruining the game.
I'd bin VAR tomorrow. The Miovski one isn't a great example to point to though, as it was a clear foul.
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The St. Mirren FC 2023/24 thread
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Posted · Edited by houston_bud
Just saw that Thierry Small has left Southampton. I'm guessing he'll end up at a League 1/2 club down south, but it's been a bit of a fall from grace for a young player that was very highly rated.
Edit: signed for Charlton in league 1.