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I'd be gutted if McGinn left. Mr consistency no matter where he gets played.
We don't really have another right back if he does go, although Flynn has been excellent there1 -
Over the piece a draw was probably right. If Obika buries his chance we win so it's frustrating from that point of view.
Obika was poor, Andreu wasn't in the game but other than that I thought we were good. Flynn was excellent yet again and McCarthy looks like a great acquisition, motm for me.2 -
Not been a great game. Obika has to bury that chance. You won't get a better chance.
Andreu hasn't been at the races, I'd be inclined to bring Mullen on after 10 mins if he still can't get into the game. At least Mullen will make a nuisance of himself.
McCarthy has been good at the back. Aberdeen might have had a penalty shout, although might have been outside the box. I also think Cosgrove was pulling McCarthy's jersey before McCarthy pulls him back.0 -
We were deserved winners in Paisley last time, albeit Aberdeen should've had a penalty, and at Pittodrie were were worth a point.
We should have no fear going into this game.0 -
McCarthy should've thrown himself at that Macpherson free kick.
Wasn't a great game to watch, thought we nullified Rangers well. The goal was annoying as it was slightly fortuitous with a mis hit cross.
We had a couple of short spells when we were able to string a few passes together but we didn't threaten at all.
The other results all went our way and we gave a reasonable account of ourselves. I'd have taken that before the game.1 -
That surprises me actually as his attitude appears to be good, certainly on the park when he always gives everything.He left us under bad terms, he was a wee fanny and Hopkin wanted him gone. Unless he's sorted his attitude out then I can't see it. If I remember correctly he went out drinking midweek and jumped down some stairs and injured himself for 4 weeks and Hopkin told him he was gone
Not sure he's good enough either tbf, nowhere near the player that Dykes is so depends on whether he'd want to be a backup
Agreed he's not as good as Dykes.0 -
Is he likely to be leaving by the end of the month? If he leaves at the end of the season we won't have a say in where he goes.I don't think any of our players will be going to clubs that could have an influence on us staying up or not.0 -
9 hours ago, sergie's no1 fan said:
I must know the boo boys .
Wonder if we could use him as part of an exchange then.
Gutting for Mullen too, stepped it up for us when Reilly went off the boil a bit in the title season. Scored some spectacular and vital goals for us last season. I think Danny and Cooke have been up against it since our shambolic league cup campaign.
Cooke is different from the 3 strikers where as Mullen is similar to Obika and Junior, maybe why Danny is being shown the door. Sadly there is no way we would keep 5 strikers on the books so one has to go.
He'd be an upgrade for StJohnstone ahead of Kane, do a job for Accies. Other than they 2 clubs I think he'd be looking at upper end of the Championship.I could see him going back to Livingston and scoring frequently against us.
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Yeah, the couple of Morton fans I know said that he's been excellent in a poor team.
Like most fans, I like Baird. I've always felt he was a bit hard done to as when a new centre half came in he was the one to make way, even if he'd been in decent form. In fairness though he isn't as good as Davis, Popescu or McLoughlin who all replaced him.
I reckon he could do better than Morton right enough. I watched the Dundee v Motherwell game and he'd improve Dundee's back four. I'd say he's probaby better than the centre halves at Dundee Utd too, and he'd walk into Caley Thistle's defence, especially as Donaldson has left.0 -
Motherwell at home in the cup. Pretty underwhelming draw. Good to get a home tie I suppose.
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11 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:
What's the wage bill of Rijeka compared to Aberdeen or St Pats compared to Norkopping?
I have absolutely no idea. Aberdeen get bigger attendances than teams in either Norway or Croatia how that fits into wages I'm not sure.
Anyway, I can see why fans of Dundalk and other teams might be a little underwhelmed by McCarthy moving to us. That said it's definitely a step up for him.
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4 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:
Fairly quiet day at work so had a look into this in a bit of detail. Using only Europa League qualifiers (not group stages) and discounting Celtic and Rangers I make the figures as such from the last three years (Apologies if I've miscounted)
Scottish teams: Played 11 ties. Won 5. 45% win rate
Irish teams: Played 15 ties. Won 4. 36% win rate.
Scotland has the better record but how does that translate into expectations?
What about against all leagues placed higher?
Scotland: Played 2. Lost 2.
Ireland: Played 12. Won 1. 8% win rate
Not a fair comparison. There are only a handful of leagues rates lower than the Irish league whereas only one Scottish club (Aberdeen) has faced clubs from a higher rated country. Weirdly one tie v Burnley Aberdeen came out of it well and the other, v Apollon of Cyprus, came out disappointed. Shamrock Rovers managed a win over Brann a few years ago but, that aside, Irish teams consistently fail. I've no doubt if Scottish teams had 12 bites against teams from Cyprus, Austria and the Czech Republic we'd have a few more wins under our belts.
And against nations places lower?
Scotland: Played 9 Won 5. 56% win rate
Ireland: Played 3. Won 3
Ireland obviously doing better against the minnows but this is just clubs from Iceland and Estonia. Ireland is so lowly ranked it would genuinely be embarrassing for them to lose to almost anyone ranked below them and the haven't been up against the bigger hitters in that area like Georgian or Finnish teams. Scotland's win rate shows that we struggle against leagues we're "expected" to do better against but, St Johnstone losing to a Lithuanian team and Killie's Welsh humiliation aside, the defeats are against similarly ranked leagues like Norway and Croatia and the like.
Conclusion: Irish teams are shite and fail against any countries that have professional footballers. Scottish teams do, generally, as expected with the odd humiliation thrown in for a laugh. Irish teams are too shite to actually be humiliated in Europe as the countries that they would class as minnows: Jersey, the Isle of Wight, Monaco, Millport, etc. aren't UEFA members.
Interesting, and I agree with your conclusion although I still think that Scottish teams outwith Celtic and Rangers do much poorer than we expect. I take the UEFA rankings but really we should be competing much better against teams from the likes of Norway and Croatia.
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36 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
Taking the last decade as an example, Scottish clubs (excluding Celtic and Rangers) have won 17 ties out of 45 (37.78%), while Irish clubs have won 23 ties out of 61 (37.70%), so the Scottish win percentage is highest by a minuscule amount. This is despite Irish sides generally having to enter a bit earlier and thus having more easier games.
Dundalk got to the group stages by winning two matches (as did Shamrock a few years earlier), one of which was against Icelandic oppositon. Aberdeen (4 times), Hibs and Motherwell have both also won two ties in a season in the same period without qualifying for the group stage - this is the main advantage of being champions and getting another go at things.
Scotland (W17 L28)
Aberdeen (W9 L6)
wins - Daugava Riga, Groningen, Shkendija, Rijeka, Fola Esch, Ventspils, Siroki Brijeg, RoPS, Chikhura Sachkhere
losses - Real Sociedad, Kairat, Maribor, Apollon Limassol, Burnley, RijekaDundee United (L3)
losses - AEK Athens, Slask Wroclaw, Dynamo MoscowHearts (W2 L3)
wins - Paksi, Infonent
losses - Tottenham, Liverpool, BirkirkaraHibs (W2 L4)
wins - Runavik, Asteras Tripolis
losses - Maribor, Malmo, Brondby, MoldeInverness (L1)
losses - Astra GiurgiuKillie (L1)
losses - Connah's QuayMotherwell (W2 L5)
wins - Breidablik, Aalesunds
losses - Odense, Panathinaikos (CL), Levante, Kuban Krasnodar, StjarnanSt Johnstone (W2 L5)
wins - Rosenborg, Luzern
losses - Eskisehirspor, Minsk, Spartak Trnava, Alashkert, TrakaiIreland (W23 L38)
Bohemians (L3)
losses - TNS (CL), Olimpia Ljubljana, AkureyriCork City (W3 L5)
wins - Linfield, Hacken, Levadia Tallinn
losses - Legia Warsaw (CL), Genk, AEK Larnaca, Rosenborg, Progres NiederkornDerry City (W1 L3)
wins - Aberystwyth
losses - Shakhtyor Soligorsk, Mitdjylland, Dinamo MinskDundalk (W6 L8)
wins - FH (CL), BATE Borisov (CL), Riga FC (CL), Grevenmacher, Jeunesse Esch, Levadia Tallinn
losses - BATE Borisov (CL), Legia Warsaw (CL), Rosenborg (CL), Qarabag (CL), Levski Sofia, Hajduk Split, AEK Larnaca, Slovan BratislavaDrogheda United (L1)
losses - MalmoShamrock Rovers (W6 L8)
wins - Flora Tallinn (CL), Bnei Yehuda, Partizan, Progres Niederkorn, Stjarnan, Brann
losses - Copenhagen (CL), Ekranas (CL), Juventus, Odd, RoPS, Mlada Boleslav, AIK, ApollonSligo Rovers (W1 L4)
wins - Banga
losses - Molde (CL), Vorskla Poltava, Spartak Trnava, RosenborgSporting Fingal (L1)
losses - MaritimoSt Patrick's (W5 L7)
wins - IBV (x2), Shakhter Karagandy, Siroki Brijeg, Jeunesse Esch
losses - Legia Warsaw (CL), Karpaty Lviv, Hannover, Zalgiris, Skonto Riga, Dinamo Minsk, IFK NorkoppingUCD (W1 L1)
wins - F91 Dudelange
losses - Slovan BratislavaThat's interesting. Cheers.
So my 'Irish teams generally do better' isn't really the case. That's was my perception and I know that is the perception of a lot of Irish fans.
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1 minute ago, craigkillie said:
Right, and if we'd been champions of Scotland and had lost to a joke team like that in the Champions League, we'd have dropped down into the Europa League and had a second chance to put things right.
The last Scottish team outside Rangers and Celtic to reach the group stages of the Europa League were Aberdeen, they actually progressed from the group stages. That must've been over 10 years ago as Lee Mair was talking about playing in that team on Off the Ball recently. How many Scottish teams have even won a tie in Europe in that time?
Dundalk got to the group stages two seasons ago.
I take your point that they get two attempts if they're the Champions, I also think summer football helps them in the qualifiers. I'm not arguing that the league of Ireland is better (It's not) but from the point of view of an Irish football fan I can see why they feel that one of the top players in their league could've made a bigger step.
I'd be curious to see the amount of European ties that Irish teams have won in the last few years compared to Scottish teams outwith Celtic and Rangers.
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5 hours ago, craigkillie said:
This isn't really true at all. The only Irish sides who typically make any sort of progress in Europe are their champions, who get two bites of the cherry because they get a go at the Europa League once they've been pumped out of the Champions League by the first half-decent team they face.
If Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hibs, Killie or even St Mirren were to enter the Champions League at the stage where they do then I'd expect them to get very close to the Playoff Round too.Kilmarnock got beat off Connah's Quay mate.
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With the exception of the Celtic and Rangers Irish teams often do better in Europe than Scottish teams.
The Irish national team, who have qualified for tournaments far more frequently than us, has picked players from the league or Ireland before they've picked Irish players playing in Scotland. See the likes of Jonny Hayes, Darryl Horgan too.
A lot of people in Ireland don't have a high opinion of the Scottish game.1 -
No idea. Looked ok in the few Betfred Cup appearances. Think he's come off the bench once in the league and he didn't look great.Oam Djork ----- is training with Queens with a view to taking him on loan .
What is he like decent player worth signing ?
He needs to go and get games hopefully a move to the likes of Queens would work out well for everyone.1 -
There's a risk with any signing really. I think with signing young loan players from England often the problem is that these guys haven't played many, if any, first team games. They're probably all good players but to make your first team debut against the likes of Curtis Main who has probably 200 or 300 games under his belt will always be difficult.Alfie Jones wasn't that bad to be fair. Of all the Stubbs signings he was certainly one of the better ones, though if I remember correctly he had a bit of a nightmare first game when Curtis Main kicked f**k out of him and he looked like he was going to cry. He soon toughened up after that, to his credit.
I think the reason we get a bit nervous about loans from English academy teams, and players from Irish or lower English leagues is because a lot of the times we've done that we've tended to be shite with awful managers who signed the wrong ones!
The game is faster up here and a little more physical too and there have been a few players who did a job playing first team in England who haven't done well up here. Going from playing U23 and reserve games which are full of young players and the odd guy coming back from injury to all of a sudden being up against someone like Alan Power or Lyndon Dykes, who'd kick their own granny to win a game of football, is a different game altogether.2 -
Nice to see us getting some business done early.
I'd be surprised to see Baird back to be honest, it looks like Goodwin doesn't fancy him. Bit of a shame as he always bust a gut for us and I thought he was decent. He's still young I suppose so could end up coming back in the summer and being given a chance.0 -
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Any word on the woman that was taken out at half time? Hope she's ok.
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Thought we were the better side but I'm not sure we deserved to win. There was an awful lot of aimless punts and head tennis going on. I sat wondering for a lot of the game that Stevie May must be really shite if he can get a game in that St Johnstone team. He then came on and confirmed that he is indeed really shite.
I thought the referee was alright both teams could've had players in the book but he let it go. There was that hectic few minutes that saw a flurry of yellows and I don't think any of them players could complain.
We miss Flynn in the middle of the park, hopefully Broadfoot is back for the Celtic and Kilmarnock games and we can get players back playing in their proper positions.0 -
He was going down long before Waters puts the challenge in. Crazy as had he stayed on his feet Waters might very well have fouled him.I think you’ve called it right here.
also, too far away to see the challenge that Robbo got booked for but he’s our strongest candidate for a diver; defo picked up where Danny Mullen left off [emoji23]0 -
Thought it was strange to see Souda come off. He looked dangerous all game.6 away games we now have dropped points in, 14 points lost, an absolutely embarrassing statistic. The subs today lost us the points, if Sinclair wasn’t inured then what the f*** is Holt doing bringing Lithgow on. Don’t know how pitts never gets taken off, miles off it today yet he brings off souda the only one actually playing well. The defensive organisation is a shambles, we’re all over the place1
St Mirren v Aberdeen 26/01/20 1230ko
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We were also on the end of a bad decision at Pittodrie when Lewis should've been sent off. He then saves the (poor) penalty.
It's frustrating when big decisions go against you but over the piece Aberdeen have taken a point from two games in Paisley and that's all they've deserved.