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Dave Cormack claiming on the BBC that joining up with the council on their beachfront plans mean the stadium will cost £80m-£90m, but if they build themselves at Kingsford it's £50m. So council need the club to stay in the city but want them to pay the extra £40m for it?

They can't even find a plan to produce a rail link from Dyce train station to the airport, a distance of all of 2.5 miles. Even the shelved plans for that were going to cost £70m six years ago. You can't compare Hearts & Aberdeen's situations though as Hearts only had to rebuild one stand while Aberdeen would need to build three. Hearts get dispensation because the other stands were built before the current regulations. Same for Anfield. As soon as Aberdeen knock down a stand they're at the mercy of modern building regulations and uefa constraints. An architect explained it to me that a rebuilt Pittodrie would look like Hamilton's stadium but with the Richard Donald Stand behind one goal. So a 12,000-13,000 capacity. I'll give you one reason. Go to the Aberdeen website and have a look at what seats are available for Tuesday's game with Rangers. You don't need an account to be able to see the stadium map. There are around 17,000 tickets sold. But now they've hit a problem. If you want to buy two seats together, you only have two choices. The uncovered section of the South Stand (a horrible place to be in the depths of winter), or the upper deck of the RDS - which due to the pitch being lengthened since it was built actually blocks the view of the goal line. Because of that Aberdeen won't sell many more tickets in the following week. Likewise, the Merkland is sold out, but when you watch it on TV you'll see half it is empty. That's because it's an "ultras" section, but to get a safety certificate they are only allowed to sell half of it, because they can't transform it into rail seating or a terracing because it's too shallow. So they can't grow the most popular section of the ground. A new stadium, with better sight lines and facilities, and a big safe standing section, and Aberdeen are probably looking at 19,000-20,000 for that game.

Attendance 18,700 for a game sold out. That would appear to be Pittodrie's capacity these days.

It's just over 1700 these days. The whole capacity of Pittodrie is probably about 18,000, maybe 19,000 tops. The "red shed" Merkland is sold out every week but you'll notice it's only half full - they can't sell every seat because it's a standing section. We'll be able to fit more in to the new stadium. Well we would if Cormack's plan wasn't to make it a 16,000 capacity.

The article isn't really about the win (save for a few paragraphs), it was more about the actual season.

Actually, you're wrong. They have players for other teams.

Laura Brannan didn't cover herself in glory earlier in the day either though when she decided to troll a 16-year-old girl on Twitter because she disagreed with her winning the SFA's goal of the year.

According to the stadium application, guard rails on both sides of the A944, and police will be controlling traffic so fans can use the toucan crossing. Also an additional footpath added - don't know where but guessing from the park and ride.

You were talking about the road being packed with traffic and the delays at the roundabout. You can't keep changing your mind and saying cars will be whizzing past at 100mph while also claiming the road will be gridlocked. If I was to walk along the footpath now, I'd be fine. And by the time the stadium is built, the footpath will have additional safety measures in place.

Would be interested to hear more about this. If you'd rather, you could post the reply in the Aberdeen stadium thread.

New Zealand are applying to host it. We should co-host with them.

They have to step onto the road because of course the other side of the footpath isn't grass, but is in fact hot lava. What's the traffic like on King Street between 1530 and 1800? What's it like after a game?

Considering a photo of the latest work a few pages ago show the lawsondale pitches - which are in Westhill - literally bordering the Kingsford site, I can't imagine what your definition of next door is.

They likely won't, it's a bridge. Easier to put a footpath (if there isn't one already there) under it. Well you can debate with someone else whether a town with over 12,000 people in it is considered large or not, but it literally borders Kingsford so not sure how you can argue it isn't next door.

Well 20,000 people aren't going to be walking down the path. It holds 900 spaces or something, and there'll be buses running from it to the site. The majority who are parked will likely head west towards either Arnhall, or Westhill.

You do realise he was joking? Park at Kingswells Park and Ride. It's pretty much the same walking distance give or take, but there'll also be shuttle buses running from there straight to the stadium before and after the match. Alternatively, there'll be parking to the west of the stadium which again is the same distance. There's also a big town called Westhill next door to the site. The bypass is right next to the stadium and you'll likely be home far quicker than you would leaving Pittodrie.

Cringe. The roundabout isn't the club's responsibility. You've posted far more in this thread than I have.

Widening the footpath is one of the conditions of the stadium application being passed. But again, this is yet another example of you deliberately playing dumb, as if there's nothing anyone could ever do to make a footpath safer to use.

For starters, I can think of three bars (five if you count that the Westhill Hotel has three bars in it) all within a mile of where the stadium will be. Not to mention the bar being proposed at the stadium. There are applications that have been passed for places literally across the road from it. Of course, google maps wouldn't tell you that.. Even so, is a mile not walking distance? You're championing fans walking from the train station, which is well over a mile. It has two. So less than 8% of the home crowd which two surveys have established. Most of that 8% already make alternative arrangements for midweek and Sunday lunchtime kick-offs. Like I said before, if the council announced they were building a train station near Kingsford, great. But it would be a bonus, it's not a necessity.

Not sure what the BBC are aiming for here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48547955 - Steven Thomson says he didn't follow women's football - When he was paid to follow it, he did. - To justify his free holiday to France at the taxpayers expense, Steven Thomson explains that through being paid to follow women's football, he now knows a little bit more about it than he did two years ago.

Right enough. Hopefully we'll stay at Pittodrie in that case since there's absolutely no solution that would ever make walking next to a road safe..

I thought you said the traffic on the dual carriageway would be backed up to Kingswells? Should be nice and safe to walk past in that case...

Well there'll be buses running from it to the stadium, but even so, it's around the same distance (probably shorter actually) than the train station to Pittodrie is, so not really sure what your point is considering everyone is making a big play about how that's walking distance.

They were approved two months ago. https://t.co/8bQ9uR8HlJ Village hotel is a recent(ish) build at Prime Four.

It's between Westhill and Kingswells. Three takeaway restaurants have just been given planning permission next to the stadium site. You already know this, but in your usual manner are going to be deliberately obtuse and pretend you need a taxi from Westhill shops to the stadium. Doesn't matter where you build it, a 20,000 capacity stadium will create heavy traffic. Will it be worse than King Street or Aberdeen harbour after a game? If you're going east, don't park west of the stadium, and vice versa.