Having defoe was all fine and well, but that defence and its half arsed attitude was ultimately their downfall, starting the season slowly, unfit, year after year was ultimately going to end one way. Moyes was just in the unfortunate position of being there when it finally happened. Coleman and grayson proved last year that even with a decent manager that team weren’t good enough. Moyes wasn’t good enough for united i will give you that, but proved he is capable at west ham.