Bobby_F

To be fair though, there are only 44 of them. Given No 8's blinkers problem he might have missed them. BTW, haven't looked at that in a while. Some of the figures are STAGGERING! No wonder they had to cheat the tax payer to afford that kind of 'lifestyle'.

Is it not all about 'balance of probabilities' again though? If everyone entitled to an EBT loan requested one, it was granted, and it was never repaid then surely that shows that in all probabilty these were pre-agreed payments? Obviously the fact they DO have evidence of side letters makes the case even stronger, but I think looking at the reality of how the scheme has been managed shows it was a channel for making under the radar payments. I remember a lawyer saying to me once (about a rogue landlord using a 'license' rather than a 'lease')... "It doesn't matter how often you call a four pronged eating instrument a spoon... it's still a fork." And in this case, everything points to Rangers scheme being used as a way of remunerating staff.

I think they know that The Rangers are just playing with everyone and they'll at the last minute just produce a bunch of bank statements showing that these things were indeed loans. After all, if they were loans rather than payments, there should be a paper trail showing repayments… Shouldn't there ? Leaving the sarcasm aside, the whole EBT thing is actually very very simple. If these were loans rather than payments made to avoid tax then you would expect the vast majority of them to have been repaid, or be being repaid. Yes, I'm sure one or two loans would default, but even they would have had a pattern of some initial payments being made. So I think even if second contracts cannot be proved without a shadow of a doubt, the fact that, as I understand, not a penny of any of these loans has never been repaid, then the strong balance of probability (all the SFA and indeed HMRC need) points to the fact that Rangers were defrauding the taxman and breaking the SFA rule about double contracts.

But surely if Rangers provide the SFA with the schedule of repayments that have occurred over the years from the 40+ recipients (easily backed up by bank statements) the SFA won't have a leg to stand on. Don't know why Rangers didn't just photocopy the bank statements right at the start of this then they wouldn't have a case to answer.

Is that from a recruitment post by H&D?

Leave TSAR be - can you not see he's just trying to speak up for his own team the good of Scottish Football.

Indeed it does. You could read it as FIFA saying that they thought the SFA were quite within their rights as a football organisation to apply whatever sanctions they saw fit to one of their member clubs - including, say, a 12 month transfer embargo. That would be consistent with FIFA's public position on non-football courts.

Hmmm. I don't think anyone ever thought that FIFA were going to arrive in Glasgow with a bunch of heavies at this stage. What people were expecting was FIFA to tell the SFA what their responsibilities were, and that they were aware of the situation. I took from the statement that the FIFA had done precisely that. So I've no idea why you're getting your Union Flag Boxers in a twist over this as if there's been some kind of conclusion and FIFA have said they're not bothered what Rangers and the SFA do? Strange person.

Absolutely shocking, OTT punishment. Imagine stopping a club with no money from signing new players 40 out of 41 of the other senior clubs couldn't even contemplate signing. Pyoor drakonyan man!

With no interest in the truth, and a clear agenda against The Rangers.

It's just another pro-Rangers point from the 'Motherwell' fan. Most normal diddy team supporters go through their lives having to answer 'bus fare' and 'aye, but who's your big team' jibes - and people like TSAR do us no favours by behaving just as OF fans think we all do.

Yes, but why's that a problem? The more they spend now, the less the creditors get. Doesn't affect H&D, doesn't affect Green, doesn't affect Ally's war chest... any increase in costs is being dumped on the people who've been wronged already. It really is gobsmackingly shocking.

"Prospective owner Charles Green's plans for the squad are unclear, but any revenue from player sales, under Duff & Phelps' proposal of a company voluntary arrangement, would go to the company for the benefit of Green's Sevco takeover vehicle, rather than to creditors. " Why would ANY creditor accept any % settlement when they see stuff like this happening. The assets belong to the entity which owes them money, yet the prospective buyer of that entity is offering them a pittance - but taking 100% of the sales value of those assets... oh, and he supposedly has £Xm more ready to throw in after those pesky creditors are out of the picture. Totally gobsmacking. Edited to add.... And I see that the wages they're getting paid up until they get sold are being paid by the creditors as well!?!? Someone just pull the feckin trigger!

I think you'll find it's considerably less... £0.00 for the last wee while I believe.

Yup. I'd take that on PPV. Been a while has it?

It's not 100% Captain style, but they've both been busy on the PC today... Can't help wondering if it's the same one :-)

Newsnight was absolutely appalling. You get the self employed lawyer who doesn't seem to ever have a clue what she's talking about, and then some English talking head from the "Greenwich School of Managament" (Jesus, sounds like something from The Daily Mash) who's sole contribution seemed to be that the creditors would take what they were given because it was the best offer (!?!?) ... oh, and that they'd get a bullet through their heads if they were responsible for shutting down the Big Hoose. And it all was headed by a voice over saying that "Creditors will get shafted.... but Green gets a company with £100m in assets for £200k... and the fans still have their club". Feck!

Surely 'Paquis' isn't for real? Must be a Captain alias?

Where to start!!!!

This decision wasn't made by them though

That's nearly 200% more than Green first thought. He'll be delighted.

Been a long time since professional boxing was a sport... ah, I see what you mean

Who said I was worried?

You think? How come droves of them don't bother to turn up for games they've actually paid for then? Oh ah, wait a minute, those games aren't against Rangers. Can't imagine many Celtic fans parting with extra cash to watch home walkovers on TV against the diddies.

Just one part of the compelling CVA published today.